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Old 02-25-2001, 08:27 AM   #1  
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Old 02-25-2001, 01:17 PM   #2  
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Hi gals...sorry y'all aren't feeling so good! To have had 3 Rugrats all weekend I'm doing pretty good! My leg is still killing me but the rest of the "fibro areas" are much better!

About the 5HTP...I got it from www.iherb.com It was $17 (plus shipping) for a bottle of 60 100mg Vegicapsules. I was about out the first of the week and went to a health food store here and bought another bottle and had to pay $23.95 for a bottle. $26 tax and all. They're cheaper at iherb. I'm going to order two or three next time and save on the postage.

Hope you all feel better tomorrow.

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Old 02-26-2001, 05:14 AM   #3  
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Meme...I think I will order it from there too. I found that site...like how they have all those articles you can read.
How many mgs are you taking??
Oh ladies...what a food kinda weekend I have been having. I bought Brannola bread. Tastes like sawdust....but worked like a charm.
Don't know what diet I want to play with this week.
I am having winter blues....
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Hi gals...had a good (but tiring) weekend. I'm sooooooo tired! I lost the 2 pounds I gained last week plus 1/2 so maybe I'm back on track. Sure hope so, I feel so much better when I'm losing. (Plus I need to get this weight off my knees.) My right knee is still killing me...it won't bend and when I do have to bend it it hurts so bad. Yesterday at church I had to keep straightening it out and rubbing it so I could get up and walk when it came time to play the organ. Getting up the steps to the stage is hard, too...especially when there are about three or four hundred people watching you!

Ally...I bought the 100mg. vegicaps and I am taking 3 a day most days. Sometimes I forget to take the one at noon! :confused: Don't know why I'm so forgetful nowadays...must be getting old! I don't take them with food or anything...I take one when I first get up and another at noon and then the last one at bedtime. Can't tell they are hurting my stomach or having any other side effects. I'm sleeping a little better and the fibro in my neck, shoulders, arms and back seems to be quite a bit better so I guess it is working. Something is! May be partly due to the diet and water, too. Whatever it is, I plan to keep doing what I'm doing! The leg pain is enough (plus the fibro pain I have from overdoing...why do I do that...and the migraines)!

The sun is shining today...it is supposed to get up to 55 degrees...but is supposed to rain tonight and then there is a chance of rain every day this week! Do you all hurt worse when it is raining.

Good day to y'all!
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Hey Tootie....I gotta believe that sugar has something to do with all these problems.
I didn't crave sugar til I got this. And geeeeeee, I didn't become overweight til I got this and started craving sugar. ANd today when I was bored at work I did my body Mass Index and it said "be careful". Said I should weigh between 133-147. I think that is bull.... I HOPE to weigh 150. Not for emaciated thinness, but because I feel that would be a healthy and achievable weight. ANd according to sone dumb scale....it is not enough. Close, but no cigar.
So...I put my kids in there....5'10" and 170lbs. It said "be careful".
No wonder we all obsess about this. My dream weight isn't even thin enough!!!
Meme.....this 5-HTP and lots of vitamins are the only things I am on right now and the aching is tolerable. I am going to stick to this too and I think I will add a dose at noon too.
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Hi. Hope everyone is feeling wonderful today. Ally, don't believe those scales. No wonder people are anorexic or bulemic. They want all of us to fit into this little mold - but it doesn't work that way. I have now lost 15 pounds and I feel really good. Still have a few more to go before I will be even a little bit happy (lol).

Remember when you were young, all the women that were old then (45 and up) were sort of rotund women. Nobody looked like a stick and everybody enjoyed eating. I don't know if sugar plays a role or not. My one brother thrives on sugar and he is pushing 59 and has hardly ever been sick - with anything. My other brother never ate sugar, but thrived on high glycemic carbs (bread etc.) and he is diabetic, has heart trouble, underactive thyroid, manic depressive - you name it, he has it. Myself, I love sweets - I take after my Mom. I try to limit them, and when I do have them, they ALWAYS start me craving for more and more and more. But I have no major illness either - only arthritis and FM. The Specialist for arthritis, informed me that it is hereditary in part, and my grandmother was very, very, arthritic - so you see - I take after her. She also lived to be 96 years old, in fairly good health (she also ate sweets and anything else she wanted, she was under 5 ft. tall, had 7 kids, had Perth's disease (one leg shorter than the other) and always had towalk with canes. Geez, she even used to cut of a piece of raw hamburger and eat it. That is when they used to leave it to thaw on the counter - and she never got ill. Her heart was good, no diabetes, strokes, or anything else. Makes one wonder just what the heck causes us to be the way we are. I think a lot is genetic.


Meme - glad tohear that you are feelig better. My knees are also really sore - don't know if it is fibro or arthritis that is causing it at this moment. Or just from the lower back (that is usually the problem), They feel like they are swollen and hurt like heck if i try bend them.

Phyllis - Glad to hear that you are so nice and warm. We have had a cold front the past week going to 30 below during the night. The day time temps are are 4 above. We are due to have a Chinook starting tomorrow and we shall warm up to about 42 above. Sure hope it comes. We have had snow - not lots, just enough to shovel each day. We now have more snow that we have had all winter. Oh well, the farmers need the moisture and hopefully we will get the spring rains. This is not a drought area at all.

I think I would like the swimming pool and hot tub. Good for the old bones.

Candice - Hello and hope you are well.

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What causes fibromyalgia? A lot of Drs., specialists and researchers think it is viral. The thesis is that you get some type of virus, infection or flu and get pretty sick with it, then you (seemingly) get over it but start having muscle aches and pains that you didn't have before...this eventually turns into...you guessed it...fibromyalgia! But you don't put the two things together because they seem totally unrelated at the time and then years later, when you are finally diagnosed, you forgot all about having the viral thing a week or so before you started hurting. Plus, the pain is so mild when it first starts most people can't put an actual TIME on when it first hit them.

And most physicians will agree that stress aggravates it big time. As for me...I think arthritis is inherited but I don't think fibro is. As far as I know no one in my family, immediate or otherwise has ever had it!

So there you have it ladies...my UNOFFICIAL opinion!

I'm so tired...not even been hungry today. Had to make myself eat a little! That would be nice every day!!! (but not being this tired)
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Here is some reading for you. It is kind of interesting and certainly has a different slant to it. Let me know what you think of this.http://www.add-fibromyalgia.com/


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Anne...I read it...that's not me! I don't have enough of the symptoms.
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Hi Meme, me either. I only had one symptom in the whole thing. However, I do believe that perhaps the endoctrine glands play a huge role in this. That may be why the 5HTP works - the Serotonin bit.
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You are probably right. We have problems sleeping and serotonin is supposed to help that. I have been sleeping better most nights. I still have an occasional night that I don't sleep but it has improved. The Neurontin that I'm taking for my migraines has also helped that. That may be one of the reasons I'm feeling so much better...

My right leg is hurting so bad I can't even bend it today. I've been on the couch all morning. It is so swollen. I think if the swelling would just go down it would be ok. The Rheumatologist told me last year that was why it hurts so bad...swells up and presses on the nerves in there. I wish I had never had the surgery on that knee. The only reason I had it in the first place is because evertime I would start to get up I'd have to straighten it out and pop it first before I could walk. But I think the surgery actually made it worse!
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I have heard of people trying ritalin for Fibro but I don't feel a need to get all amped up. That's what happened when I took Wellbutrin and I didn't like it. I'm not ready to be moving at that pace.
I am testing out high Fiber this week. Just don't feel like getting completely into the diet mode. BUT, if you decide that you are going to focus on fiber...it is just like any other diet. All the good stuff does not have fiber in it. No chicken wings, no cheese. Here's the feedback so far.....lots of fiber gives you lots of gas!!!
I am back from the grocery store zonked. Legs muscles hurt Sooooo bad. Now I know why my thin vegetarian friend spends so much on groceries. That stuff in the health food aisle is expensive. So, now I have to think about peak grocery shopping times. Found that if I go after work I am starved and buy too much. On weekends, I run into people I don't want to see in my sweat pants. After dinner means I will get way too tired.
May have to get up at the crack of dawn.
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A POSITIVE THOUGHT

If GOD had a refrigerator, your picture would be on it. If He had a wallet, your photo would be in it. He sends you flowers every spring and a sunrise every morning.
Whenever you want to talk, He'll listen.
He could live anywhere in the universe, and He chose your heart.
What about the Christmas gift He sent you in Bethlehem; not to mention that Friday at Calvary.
Face it, He's crazy about you.

Send this to the people you care about. I thought this was pretty special, just like you. Pass this on and
brighten someone's day, and remember:

God answers Knee-Mail!
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Hi. Boy, it must be my time to hurt big time. My arms, legs and stuff in between sure are aching. The muscles are sore and my skin is sore. Was even tired this morning, for the first time in a long time. It could have something to do with the weather - going from 30 below to 54 above in the space of a day!!!!!! The chinook blew in and warmed everything up. Supposed to hang around for a few days, but we could also get snow. It sounds like spring outside today. Water running everywhere. But changing by 80 degrees is a lot and I think hard on the system.

Meme, I hope your knee gets better fast. I also get those sore, sore knees, can't bend them, and really hard going up and down the stairs. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to give this fm to a 'normal' just for a day or two - they would know how we feel all the time. They would think they were dying if they had this much pain at one time

Candice and Phyllis - Hello. What are you two up to. Are your computers not working? Would like to hear from you and hope your feeling ok.

Ally - Last night I blew it. I ate a muffin, and then another, and then craved carbs all night long. Just wasn't satisfied with anything - except sweet and salty things. Had a few Cashews, tried to be good, but failed miserably :mad I was really mad at myself, and then I thought, hey, life is way to short for this - just enjoy this night, so I did

I have been running around the house in sweats for the whole winter and I was starting to feel so blah! So, no more. I have started to wear pants (albeit a little baggy, because of current weight loss, but not that bad) and nice shirts and I feel a whole lot better. Size really doesn't matter. I know some really heavy people, who dress so nice and the weight is secondary. I believe it is all an attitude. Because we are not living up the 'poster girl' look, we all feel unattractive. I think if we change that attitude (and it will change, because the baby boomers are mostly not looking like the poster girl any longer) and just put on things we enjoy wearing, regardless of size, we will be happier. I have a cousin who has now refused to diet anymore. She is just a round little thing, but who cares. She seems to be comfortable with herself and that is the main thing. I think I don't want to waste my life by worrying about being a few pounds overweight. I am by no means obese, so I should be happy. I am probably doing more harm by dieting, because only such a small percent of the population keep it off - the rest gain it back, plus more. I know this is not encouraging, but if we are eating and are as healthy as we can be, then the weight really doesn't matter. If we get enough exercise and finally enjoy who we are, we will be ok.

You can play the drum roll now, I am finished. This was my soapbox for the day

Hope you all have a good one.
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I agree with that philosophy to a point but if I don't get some of this weight off my knees I won't be walking very much longer!

When I lose, I always feel better. I think what I eat has a direct bearing on how I feel. The more sweets and junk I eat the more I hurt! The more salt I eat the worse I swell. If I eat a lot of protein and salad type foods, I have more energy and feel better...and I'm usually in a better mood, too.

I'm not going to stop trying to lose the rest of this 30 pounds I need to drop!

My knee is still killing me! I have to go to the Rhematologist in Nashville Monday. I doubt it will do any good! Probably a wasted trip...but at least I'll get to do a little shopping!
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