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Old 05-11-2005, 08:28 PM   #1  
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Ok here is the 1st official post of our group!

I did really good today really proud of myself got my walk in tonight 40 minutes!!!! WAHOOO!!! Stayed within my points will post my journal later on here have some other things to take care of first.

Hope to see you all over here!!!!!

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Hello Everyone. I am new to this but I will be starting the Weight Watchers plan Probably Friday Morning. I have all the information I need and need to be encouraged and Suppported.
I would like to join you. I read your other thread and followed you here.

I am 35 with 3 kids, 3 dogs and a husband. I am 80 lbs overweight and need desperately to loose it. I live in Upstate New York and Stay at home with my Youngest one 2 yrs old. My other 2 are 13 and 10. Then when Hubby gets home I do the Traveling Hairdresser thing. I love my clients so much that I did not want to give them up...or the money I was making.

Well I have to go...baby is crying.

Talk to everyone later.

Have a great night!

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Wow love the new name and now we have our own little spot.

Sorry I didn't make it back yesterday was a hectic day around my house. Even though it was hectic I did great on day 1 on WW!! I love this program to me it is nearly like a game which makes it interesting. I have a question can you bank any extra points you have since I had 3 left over yesterday? The one thing personally I am going to have to work on is eating more fruit in my diet.

Welcome to all the newbies it will take me awhile to get all the names straight. I am looking forward to getting to know each of you better and be involved in your weight loss journey as well as having you in mine.

I have a busy day today most importantly I have got to get my walk in which I didn't do yesterday.

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Good morning Back to Basicers! Just a quick pass through for me this morning. I am out-of-town on a business trip and need to get some miles behind me before I actually get to the client site.

Our new home is looking pretty comfy and welcome to all the newcomers. Thanks Michelle for spearheading this.

I thought I would post our original link here in case anybody want to toggle back and forth until we get acquainted.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57594

Considering Iím on the road this week Iím doing pretty good. Just not easy to track or pre-plan my meals but I feel like I am making mindful food choices. Water has been minimal but better than none which has been the case the last couple of weeks and exercise just has not happened. I knew this week was going to be tough but will attend my meeting on Sat. morning and start with a new vengeance.

Diane, as far as banking points, my understanding is doing so is now discouraged but one of the older plans did allow you to. They now refer to your points as daily target points plus they give you 35 points allowance to use as you choose throughout the week. My personal thought is to personalize the plan and make it work for you. I donít think anyone from the WW police is going to single you out if you do your own thing. I am actually taking a different approach and doing something called the Wendie Plan which supposedly helps keep your metabolism moving. Because of all my ďyo yoĒ dieting and stage of life it is VERY difficult for me to lose.

Yikes! Iíve lingered too long and running late. Be back later!

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Welcome to the boards everyone

Sassycat, nice to see you back, I too am starting over
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Hi Ladies, I started WW last night too. I'm going to try the Core Program. I'm not good at counting all the points. Not to mention my fiancť is a chef and not very helpful. He doesn't understand things like even a little butter or cream isn't good. His idea of a little butter is 1-2 tbls. in everything he cooks. We always have healthy whole foods in our house, but once he gets his hands on them the healthy part is out the window. My daughter just turned 8mos. last week and learned to crawl, sit up, and pull herself up in the last 2 days. She also is now refusing to eat any baby food and wants everything we eat. I don't want her to develop our eating habits, so my hope is that on the core program we can all eat together. Life has changed quickly for me in the past 2 years. I just turned 33, met my fiancť, had a baby and bought a house (that is now being remodeled). I've also gained 60lbs. this is in addition to the 30lbs. I needed to lose before that. I now have almost 100 to lose. I'm really not sure what happened to the old me and I have to admit I'm pretty scared. I work on a PC all day and can't take a lunch away from my desk; otherwise I have to stay at work longer. Iím currently supporting the family and the nanny because my fiancť is in between jobs. I'm trying to figure out how and when I can exercise. I'm not really a morning person, but I'm going to try and walk with the baby between 7-8am. I prefer to walk at night and used to really enjoy it, but by the time I get home from work and feed the baby, etc. I think it would be too late for her to go outside. I joined WW because I need to lose weight. Iím terrified that I am developing diabetes or heart disease. The doctor says no, but Iím smart enough to know that being 100lbs. over weight is incredibly dangerous. Iím really hoping to give and receive support here because I think we all need it! Good luck to all of us!
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Wink Wendie plan?

What is the Wendie plan? I have heard of this but can't remember what it is.
I too am trying to count points. Terrible about writing All Bites down.
Glad to see the new forum. Am really looking forward to this!!!
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Welcome to all! I think we have a great group starting here.

Today is going to be hard for me. We are moving our daughter back home from college for the summer. So we will be eating out, probably fast food for lunch, then a sit down dinner for supper. Also won't get my walk in. But my little girl will be home! I'm excited!!!!

Have a great day everyone!

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HI everyone!

WEll for the first time since I re-joined the gym, I went 2x in one week to the gym. I am doing goos with my points (thanks to the gorgeous weather), and I will let you girls know tuesday how much I weigh.

Roxymom, my trick when I have to eat out a lot is to stick with chicken on the menu. Even if its with fries, stick with chicken and don't eat the skin.



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Hello Everyone! I am preparing for tomorrow. Any Advice? This will be my first time doing WW and I dont want to screw up to start.

Well talk to you all later.

Have a great day!
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Advice - Relax and enjoy yourself. WW is not a restriction, it's a way of life. If you eat something High in points account for it and move on. Life's too short to worry about mistakes we've made in the past.

I have been really bad this past week and I am pretty sure that I will have gained a little bit tomorrow when I step on the pesky scale, but I will survive and it will re-energize me to get my butt back after the program that works so well.

On another note, how do I get the really cute scale at the bottom of my messages?
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What is the 'Wendie Plan'?
First of all, let it be known that the Wendie Plan is NOT something different than good old Weight Watchers. Most of the people who regularly visit here are following the WW plan. However, this does not mean that the Wendie Plan can not be easily adapted for people who are using Richard Simmons, and/or counting calories. I suppose even people following a plan such as Atkins could adapt this to their program, however I do not recommend it. The reason is simple. I do not recommend the Atkins program or any other low/no-carb program like that. Why? Because it is not (or SHOULD not) be a lifestyle change, and because it is very dangerous to your health. I cannot advocate any program that would put your health at risk.

The Wendie Plan is very simple. You follow a simple plan of eating. You eat your regular foods that you have on WW. You work within your point range. You drink the water, get some exercise, etc., etc., etc. What is different? You alternate the amount of points you use each day. What could be more simple?

Let us assume for a moment that your point range falls between 22-29 points per day. (This is based on the original 123 plan, not the "Winning Points" plan) WW says that you can eat up to 29 points every day, and still lose weight. Do you? Maybe. Maybe not. Ever notice that on some days you aren't very hungry and on other days you feel you could eat all the points in the universe? After doing extensive research, I have discovered several things that don't always ring true.

At this point, if you are someone who has been doing the program and losing a steady 2+ pounds per week, you don't have to read on any further. Your body is doing what it needs to for you to lose weight. If you are struggling to drop a pound, and no matter how hard you have tried the pounds won't shake loose? Read on...this is for you.

First of all, just because you eat within the points you have been assigned, drink all of your water, exercise at least 20 minutes every day, journal till the cows come home... does not mean that you will lose weight. I don't mean to depress you, but it is the truth. We have countless people here, myself included, who can attest to this. They try really hard, but week after week they are struggling to even lose part of a pound. I see it all the time. So... what are they doing wrong?

Oddly enough, they are doing one tiny little thing wrong. It is one tiny, insignificant thing, but it is keeping them from losing weight faster and at a steady rate. The secret to The Wendie Plan is simple. Alternate your points daily. At the start of your week, alternate the number of points you eat daily. Your rhythm of your week should look like this: low/high/low/very high/very low/high/med. high.

For example. If your range allows you to eat between 22-29 points per day:


Day 1 - 22 points
Day 2 - 28 points
Day 3 - 23 points
Day 4 - 36-39 points
Day 5 - 22 points
Day 6 - 29 points
Day 7 - 27 points

On the WW plan, 22-29 points per day, you will eat between 154 points (low end) 203 points (high end) during the course of the week. On the Wendie Plan, you will eat 190 points during the course of the week. Which falls towards the high end of the range, but not the highest. (Adjust the points to fit your current range).

We have already seen some amazing results using the Wendie Plan. I developed this plan out of sheer frustration. After being on WW for 17 months, and having lost no weight in the last 9 months of program, but being too stubborn to actually quit, I found myself pouring over 17 months of anally kept journals, trying to find the one key which would unlock my door to success. In the first 8 months I was successful. I lost 40 pounds. What happened then to impede my progress? I was still following the program in every way. I was doing everything right, but experiencing no weight loss. Why?

Why, indeed? The most interesting aspect of my journey came at the end of May, 2000. I weighed in on WW and had reached a 40 pound loss. I decided I was close enough to a 50 pound loss and I wanted to reach it by the 4th of July. That was a reachable goal. So I worked even harder. I dropped my points down to 25 per day, and began exercising more. Everyday I was outside walking through parks or in the fitness center hitting the treadmill. At the end of 5 weeks, I had a net gain of 1.2 pounds! Muscle? To some degree, yes. But, as I never began to look like Arnold Schwarztenager, I realized that something had gone terribly wrong. I had "shrunk" a bit, which was to be expected, but still, at the end of 5 weeks, I was heavier. I continued. I worked out everyday, and kept my points down. This has got to work, right? Not necessarily. At the end of the next 5 weeks, I was down exactly 1.2 pounds. So my net loss for the 10 weeks after Memorial Day was zero!

I continued to work very hard, and by September, I had played around with the same 3 pounds all summer. Up, down, up, down but never gone for good. In October, I celebrated 1 year of WW, by maintaining my 40 pound loss for four months! What was up with this?

I stopped attending WW meetings in October, because first, I was making no headway, and I became so depressed at Monday's weigh-ins that it took until Tuesday afternoon to snap back out of it; and second, I did not get the support I needed through WW. They simply had no answers as to why I was not losing weight even though I was working the program very conscientiously. At the last couple of weigh-ins, when I was going up a pound each week, I got the general impression that my leader felt that I was not really working the program. At that point, I walked out for good.

I tried several things between Halloween and Christmas to shake some pounds loose, but to no avail. I then went back to WW the day after Christmas. It is interesting to note what happened. First, I didn't start the program that first week. I weighed in on Tuesday, and then rather half-heartedly began the program on Friday. When I weighed in on Tuesday, I was down 3.5 pounds! I buckled down and worked very hard on program the next week. I measured everything, exercised, drank my water, and journaled every bite. The following Monday I weighed in and I had GAINED 2 pounds! What is up with that?

It didn't take very long for me to see that going to WW was not going to help me. My body was being incredibly stubborn and was not going to let me lose this weight. Do you see a pattern forming here?

In addition to having 17 months of journals, I also have kept a spreadsheet of my weight losses. I began pouring over my journals and comparing what I did on certain weeks to the amount of weight I lost at the end of that particular week. I made an astonishing discovery.

I have always been a moderate loser. Meaning, I usually lost about a pound a week. Other people may lose 3 pounds a week, but I usually lost a pound, sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. But I was very consistent in losing. There were some weeks, however, when I did lose more than a pound per week. Interestingly, the weeks I had my biggest losses were weeks when I overate! The weeks were Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years! Christmas Day I ate 43 points! I lost 4.75 pounds that week! Upon further studies, I discovered something else. Every week that I overate one day, I had larger than average losses! How can that be?

It has long been thought that you have use 3500 calories less than you need in order to lose one pound. I simply don't believe it. I know it is mathematical, and mathematics was never my strongest subject, but science has always been an area in which I have excelled. I believe that our bodies are far more complicated than a simple mathematical formula can describe. The body is like a fireplace. If you build a fire, at first it takes awhile to warm up. You add more fuel and it burns more efficiently. The more fuel you add to it, the hotter it burns. Add less fuel, and it begins to cool down.

Our bodies were built for survival. If you go on a "diet" the body can become uncomfortable. This is especially true if you take so much food away from it that it feels as if it is going to starve. There is a lot of talk about not eating too little. Your body will go into "starvation mode" and you won't lose any weight. Well, to a point, this is true. Your body will lose weight if you starve it, but it won't want to, and it will take the weight from places you don't necessarily want to lose it from. That is why some people who lose a lot of weight look "gaunt", and is far more likely to hear comments like "have you been sick"? as opposed to "You look good!"

Why does "The Wendie Plan" work?
Your body has this wonderful little thermostat inside of it. It regulates everything you do. If you feed it lots of food, it turns the thermostat up and burns it as efficiently as possible. This is why you have been able to eat as much fast food before WW and didn't gain the amount of weight that you should have. Your body became more efficient and was able to burn off much of the excess amount of calories. Otherwise, with the amount of food we porked in pre-WW, we should have been gaining 2-3 pounds per day!

When you go on a "diet" where you dramatically decrease the amount of calories that you consume, your body thinks "Oh-oh, we're going to starve to death here" and immediately turns the thermostat down to conserve energy. After all, your body will do whatever it has to do to ensure that you stay alive. It doesn't know that you don't want to carry those extra pounds around. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to convince my body that I really do want to shed those extra pounds through talking to it.

That is where The Wendie Plan comes in. If I can't get my body to shed the extra pounds by talking to it, then I have to trick it in to letting them go! The Wendie Plan is the trick.

If you are on WW, or even just counting calories, and you stick with a set amount of calories per day, such as 1400 or say, 27 points per day, your body will adjust to that. It will become extremely efficient at using just the amount of calories (energy) that you are giving it. You may lose fairly well at first, but after the first week or so, you will find that your losses may slow ... way... down, and even stop. Isn't it nice to have such an energy efficient body? However, the body isn't extremely fast. If you give it the same amount of food every day, it will adjust itself. But if you change the amount of food it gets every day, it doesn't have time to adjust itself! Which means on that day that you eat 10 points over your highest, it tries to adjust by turning up your thermostat, but it is unable to turn it down for the low points the next day. What you are doing, in essence, is keeping your body guessing. It doesn't have time to adjust the thermostat down, before it needs to turn it back up. What eventually happens is your body will never again feel as though it is going to starve to death, and it will never again try to shut down the thermostat, so you will continue to lose at a more rapid loss. This also means fewer plateaus.

Some people are aghast at the thought of actually eating 10 points over their maximum. I know, its the hardest part for me, too. Again, I just have to plan higher point meals for those days and make sure I actually follow through. If the huge point day isn't done, then the body will not turn the thermostat up high enough. It is all a formula which has to be adhered to high points, as well as low point days.

What about exercise points? What about them? I never use them. I just know that I don't plan any big exercise on my low points days. If I am going on an 8 mile hike, I will probably do it on my high or super-high day, so that I can take advantage of the extra fuel to get me through the exercise. I think WW was using the activity points as a carrot to get people to exercise. More activity, more food. I don't believe in that. Eat what your body needs. Exercise plays a good role in this plan, because exercising increases your metabolic rate. (Which turns up the thermostat even more!) So does increased muscle. Arrange your high point days on the days that you exercise. Or better yet, arrange your exercise around your high point days. My high point days usually fall mid-week. But why? It makes more sense to me to have my highest point day fall on Saturday. That is the most likely day that I will be doing an 8 mile hike. Fit this plan into your lifestyle.

My WW leader told us that it isn't what you do for one meal that causes you to gain or lose, it's what you do for 21 meals that makes a difference. What this is telling me is that I have 7 days, 21 meals, and 217 points to use. How I choose to use them over the course of a week is totally up to me. If I choose to have 42 points on Sunday and 24 points on Monday... I am still on program. Even better, I will probably lose some weight. Do not be afraid to have that one high point day. Just as you shouldn't be afraid to have the low point ones. At the end of the week, you will have lost weight.

Find your normal Weight Watcher POINTS TARGET and then view below it the modified Wendie Plan POINTS RANGE:
You should schedule your SHD as FAR away from your weigh in day as possible, due to the fact that you may notice a slight gain the day after your SHD (which WILL go away)

POINTS TARGET - 20 (Weigh Less than 150 lbs)

Day 1 - 20 points
Day 2 - 25 points
Day 3 - 21 points
Day 4 - 35 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 20 points
Day 6 - 24 points
Day 7 - 22 points

POINTS TARGET - 22 (Weigh 150 -174 lbs)

Day 1 - 22 points
Day 2 - 27 points
Day 3 - 23 points
Day 4 - 37 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 22 points
Day 6 - 26 points
Day 7 - 24 points

POINTS TARGET - 24 (Weigh 175 - 199 lbs)

Day 1 - 24 points
Day 2 - 29 points
Day 3 - 25 points
Day 4 - 39 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 24 points
Day 6 - 28 points
Day 7 - 26 points

POINTS TARGET - 26 (Weigh 200 - 224 lbs)

Day 1 - 26 points
Day 2 - 31 points
Day 3 - 27 points
Day 4 - 41 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 26 points
Day 6 - 30 points
Day 7 - 28 points

POINTS TARGET - 28 (Weigh 225 - 249 lbs)

Day 1 - 28 points
Day 2 - 33 points
Day 3 - 29 points
Day 4 - 43 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 28 points
Day 6 - 32 points
Day 7 - 30 points

POINTS TARGET - 30 (Weigh 250 - 274 lbs)

Day 1 - 30 points
Day 2 - 35 points
Day 3 - 31 points
Day 4 - 45 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 30 points
Day 6 - 34 points
Day 7 - 32 points

POINTS TARGET - 31 (Weigh 275 - 299 lbs)

Day 1 - 31 points
Day 2 - 36 points
Day 3 - 32 points
Day 4 - 46 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 31 points
Day 6 - 35 points
Day 7 - 33 points
POINTS TARGET - 32 (Weigh 300 - 324 lbs)

Day 1 - 32 points
Day 2 - 37 points
Day 3 - 33 points
Day 4 - 47 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 32 points
Day 6 - 36 points
Day 7 - 34 points
POINTS TARGET - 33 (Weigh 325 - 349 lbs)

Day 1 - 33 points
Day 2 - 38 points
Day 3 - 34 points
Day 4 - 48 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 33 points
Day 6 - 37 points
Day 7 - 35 points
POINTS TARGET - 34 (Weigh more than 350 lbs)

Day 1 - 34 points
Day 2 - 39 points
Day 3 - 35 points
Day 4 - 49 points Super High Day (SHD)
Day 5 - 34 points
Day 6 - 38 points
Day 7 - 36 points

if you wanna try this and are on flex, add 2 pts to the low days
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Here is a link to get your scale for the bottom of your messages

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Will write more later girls it is rush rush rush here tonight!!!!

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That is a lot to absorb.
I am also a moderate loser. I can consistently lose 0.8 each week by sticking to it. So frustrating to see the 3-5 lb losses by others. I realize I have probably yo-yo'd myself into this. Thank you so much for the explanation. I really appreciate the time it took. THANK YOU!!!
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You are welcome Patrice I actually copied and pasted it so no work involved at all. But if I didn't do it right then and there it wouldn't have gotten done.

Welcome aboard any new members to our little group. Post whenever you get time and as often as you like you are more then welcome to post journals and recipes. Post away if you like!!!!!

Kathy that is probably so awesome having your daughter come home for the summer bet you missed her!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you know what today is a special in my book and that is what WW is for you can eat what you want in moderation!

Roxy awesome job on going to the gym keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!!!

Today was another great OP for me I am just feeling so much better then I did a week ago! Went for our walk tonight it was a bit nippy but felt good! Dinner tonight was a fat free refried bean burrito no recipe just something I threw the together the guys of course had the the real thing burritos!!!!!

I picked up a new cook book at the store today when I stopped it is a WW like magazine type that is 5 ingredients 15 minutes. Can't wait to go through it I am such a cookbook and recipe hound it isn't funny!!!!!

Ok need to settled here and get a shower TGIF tomorrow can't wait I have had enough of work this week!!!!!!!!!

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