definitely not worth it if you didnt feel you get much. you can do it! im on a lower(not low) carb plan that i designed myself. i dont really count carbs, but i get most of them from sources high in protein and no starch veggies, but i do eat 2 servings of fiber one for breakfast. i had to, i was getting really constipated. have a great day
They still advocate high fiber however to be accountable for the calories in foods you cap the forumla for counting it at 4 grams per serving! So if something has 8 grams of fiber you put the cap at 4.
The started to count points for high glycemic veggies (onions, carrots, jicama,....).
They lowered the high end of the point ranges (for example 20-27 is now 20-25).
You get to count all activity points instead of just the ones after you reach 2 points. (Best way to earn back those missing 2 points).
I don't want to argue but it was the amount of intake on calories not the fiber itself. High fiber is good for your body and W/W isn't disputing that fact (I'm looking for my fiber article) but the amount of calories needed to be accounted for too. Too many people were counting something with 200 calories as 1 point because of the high fiber and gaining or maintaining - i.e., not showing or getting losses.
Weight loss is still using more calories than you take in.
The mathematical formula for points assigned each gram of fiber a value of negative ten calories. Even if all the fiber were indigestible, and even if it did absorb some fat (I'm not sure it does) or interfere with the absorption of the other calories in the food (again, not sure it does), it really couldn't do it to the tune of negative ten calories per gram. That means we're subtracting the fiber's own 4 calories (o.k., makes sense if we can't digest it), PLUS 6 more? I used to eat a can of lentil chili which has 360 calories and count it as 2 points. So, if one day I "spend" my 2 points on, say, 80 cal worth of tuna and the next day I spend 2 points on 360 cal worth of lentil chili, we're talking about "invisibly" increasing my caloric intake by 280 calories. Do that on a few other items in your daily menu (and believe me, I found them ALL) and you're eating a lot of hidden calories all while staying well within points.
I would have preferred to see the formula revised to give a smaller "fiber discount" but to allow us to count all the fiber. It becomes complicated and inconsistent to have a cap. With the cap, my sandwich comes out one way if I count the fiber in my bread (up to 4 g) separately from the fiber in my boca burger patty (up to 4 g) than if I cap the whole sandwich. That kind of inconsistency drives me nuts.
Anyhow, Kelly's right--we're supposed to keep eating a low fat, high fiber diet, we just don't get as many "hidden calories" with the fiber cap.
They put the cap on fiber because people were abusing it...for example, they were counting Kaski cereal at 0 points because of the high fiber and eating it all day...at 80 calories a serving. Then they were complaining about not losing.
We are encouraged to eat plenty of fiber...more rather than less. We just are counting only the first 4 grams in computing points.
AS the saying goes, to each his own. ibelieve that. everyone has their own opinion. i dont want to argue. i want to clarify one thing and then im not saying another word on the subject. Fiber is indigestable, and it does absorb fat. the proof lies in the fact that this is the ENTIRE PREMISE of the program that came before WP or 123, known as the fat&fiber plan. That is also supported in the research done on chitosan, a shellfish fiber.
Hi Everybody-- Wow what a discussion--Fat or fiber? The only thing I really care about is less fat. The more fiber I eat the less fat I eat. It also helps to keep the system running smoothly. I would have to keep my fiber. I will cut somewhere else. Salads and fruit and different veggies are my staple.
I am going on a short trip next week. I do not do so well eating out. Wish me luck.. Have a great day-Joanne
