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Old 05-03-2006, 03:54 PM   #31  
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Errrrr, Fitgal2, she got out!

Good for you, freiamaya!
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Old 05-03-2006, 07:25 PM   #32  
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Sounds to me like you're going to Dr. Bernsteins. I really hope not. That "plan" replaces nutrition via food with supplements via injections.

I know a guy who was on that, lost mega amounts of weight then went off the program because it ws too expensive. Of course, guess what happened? He gained it ALL back plus more. He should have just taken his thousands of dollars and ate at fancy resturants with it because the end result is all the same. He's heavier now then he was when he started.
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Old 05-03-2006, 08:22 PM   #33  
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Good for you for getting out! That clinic is crap!!!! I cant believe people out there risk lives to make some extra cash!!!
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Old 05-04-2006, 10:01 AM   #34  
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oops my bad didn't see that post! sorry! YAY for getting out! hope that you find something that you like and that keeps you calories at a healthy range

Goodluck!
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Old 05-04-2006, 10:43 AM   #35  
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If you already have a handle on 425 cals per day, you probably have a good knowledge of calories over all and will easily be able to manage a more reasonable count.
So while you may have had a harrowing experience ... something good has come of it. yes?
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:09 AM   #36  
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Hi there!
Yes, something good has come of this, and I believe that something good can be found in everything. What I learned is that there is alot of junk science out there, and that the clinic employees really aren't capable of critical thinking. It was amazing that I could say to a nurse: "here is my diet record and here is my calorie count", and I would get the response "yes, it is a record of your food and your calorie count is right, but you are eating 800 calories, regardless of the calories that you have recorded" without her being able to show me where those extra calories came from! It was also scary to hear her say that "this diet isn't about the calories". ALL diets are about calories!!! Too many calories are stored as fat. To lose fat, you need to expend more calories than you take in. It was like trying to convince a member of a cult that their reasoning is distorted. Scary. Also, I learned that there is no quick answer, and what most of the "lose 20 lbs in 20 days without exercise!" type programs are really selling HOPE to a vulnerable group of people who are really, really motivated to see results. And, I found that the small print is still suspect. This particular plan puts stars under each "success story" and claims that "these results ARE typical" and that their weight loss is guaranteed. However, they only "guarantee" 10 lbs in a calendar month (not 30 consecutive days) and their "guarantee" means that they will "treat you for free until your 10 lbs are lost". Hardly a guarantee of their "typical" weight loss of "4-5 lbs each and every week". It is all set up for maximum exploitation of a vulnerable population for maximum profits, and I really should have known better. That being said, I am sure that for some, the program is effective. All I know is that each pound I lost cost me $80. That's right, $80, based on a weekly cost of $160 and a weekly loss of 2 lbs on 425 calories, which, according to the program director, is absolutely acceptable results for their program. I could have done that with Weight Watchers for $15, been able to eat real food, and I would have had enough left over for a gym membership and had the energy to start an exercise program. Sigh. Lesson learned and pocketbook lightened -- dieting is hard work, and there are no easy answers, at least, not for me.
Thanks for listening!

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Old 05-05-2006, 01:14 AM   #37  
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Well good for you for getting out of that place.. sounded like **** to me. I can't stand people like that, I wonder where that doctor and nurses got brainwashed to accept that kind of diet plan and treat people with it.
It could have caused you lots of damage if you had kept going there. I'm very happy you left.. I would have given anything to see the look on their face when you left.
Keep us posted on how the new plan is working out for you ^_^
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