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Old 09-08-2003, 12:37 PM   #31  
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Wondering if Wal-Mart will have the book?...or will we have to go to Barnes & Noble?...does anyone happen to know?.. I hope Wal-Mart has it!..They usually have all of Oprah's Club books.
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SKINNY ~ I bet that Wal-Mart will have the book, I agree they usually do. If not... Sam's Club usually does or you can go to Amazon.com. I get my books within 2 - 3 days after I order them there (right to your door!) - they are so fast!! I love Amazon.com Best of Luck! I am cheering you on!

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Old 09-08-2003, 12:52 PM   #33  
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I think I'll buy the cassette tape. I have a tape player with headphones, and I could also listen while driving in my car.

Does anyone know if the authors always read the books in these tapes? I think actually listening to Dr. Phil tell me to get off my a** and get real will be the most affective for me. Like he's personally talking to me. That would be the "ultimate" weightloss strategy!


One more day to go! I'm sure it will be in almost all the stores.

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Hi All!

Think we might need to start a new thread...this one is getting pretty long! (which is a great thing!). Okay, has anyone found when the heck he's supposed to be on? Think he premiere's the challenge on friday but not sure...still wondering when the two hour thing is with Katie Kuric.

Does his book come with a workbook? Not sure if I'm going to buy it or not.

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Hey Guys- Sorry I havent posted in a few days was out of town....

Some people spoke of the series of shows that he had on Oprah a few years ago.... I took notes and had posted them recently on the other thread.... I will copy them here for everyone to get a preview.....

Here is what I wrote down about Dr Pihl's Weight Lose philosphy... this is from an Oprah show that he was on back in June 2001..... (I have a motivational journal where I write all the things that is going to make me do this.... OK I am anal retentive... lol)

#1 YOU EITHER GET IT OR YOU DONT


****You are overweight because you set yourself up to be...
****You may have a fear of NOT Failing... Of being thin and then having no excuses....
****Being overweight is unnatural.... You have to work at being overweight.....
****The key element in being overweightis your emotions.
****You have designed your life to be this way. (IE: Your emotions, your lifestyle, your eating choices, etc.)


#2 You cant change what you dont acknowledge.


****When do you use 7 abuse food???? Know this and you will be able to start to have control....
****Its not what you eat so much as why you eat.
****You have to get real about why you eat what you eat.
****What is your payoff for eating?
****You are eating for a reason.
****If you have a need you will find a way to fill it.

Until you get rid of the fear, until you get real with yourself, you will continue to feed the monster.

#3 HOW DO YOU SEE YOURSELF?

****You have to changeyour internal dialog. You have to acknowledge that what you say to yourself will effect you.
****Put the food down and go heal that disfigurement inside.
****If you are overweight that means that you are out of control. Being overweight is an unnatural state.
****The magic is you. There is something in you when you make a life decision.
****Visualize yourself as thin & Beautiful.
****Visualize yourself daily doing what needs to be done.


Dr Phils Five Step Strategy

#1 Set a Very Specific Goal.
****Remember that losing weight requires a change in thought and behavior so set goals for your emotions and weight.
****Dont set vague goals. How much do you want to weigh? How do you want to feel? Visualize all of this.
****Use this visualization to feel your commitment & inner strength.

#2 Work out a very specific strategy.
****Willpower doesnt work. To lose weight and keep it off you must have a plan of attack.
****Plan ahead. get rid of expandable clothes, stay away from fast food, keep healthy food in your pantry, etc.

#3 Identify small measuralbe steps.
****Implement steps that will fit your lifestyle, not somebody elses.
****Be sure to move toward a positive goal, not just away from being fat. Every step you take will bring you closer to being what you want to be.

#4 Create a healthy, realisitc timeline.
****Where do you see yourself in a month? 6 months? a year? Fit your goals to your calender & Stick to it.
****Dont expect to see huge results overnight - take time to change your lifestyle.

#5 Create a meaningful monitoring and accountability.
****If you know you have to report to someone you are more likely to stick to it.
****Go public with someone you trust.


GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHY YOU OVEREAT. WHAT EMOTIONAL TRIGGER HAS BEEN HIT.....

Do you keep alot of junk food around?
Is there no alloted time for working out?
Is your clothing expandable so that you can grow into them?

Ok I probably just summed up his whole book and he is going to hate me.... I am sure there will be alot more than just this.... These notes of mine came from a series of Oprah shows that he did for a few weeks one a week.....

It is going to be a great book and I think if you read the book with an open mind and actually do the things he recommends to find the emotional aspects of it all (and not just right the notes like I have so far) I think this will work for so many.....

He is apparently also going to focus on this alot this season on his show.... Supposedly there is an 80% success rate for those who truly follow his program.....

I dont know if he is going to have specific eating or exercise programs... it should be interesting....

I just wanted to also say thank you for bringing this up and reminding me I had these notes.... I am going to go look at them again.... and start trying to figure this out....
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Here is some info on the show we have all been looking for....

NBC News chews the fat with Dr. Phil McGraw

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In an exclusive interview, live forum discussion and weeklong series, NBC News will chew the fat with self-help guru and talk show host, Dr. Phil McGraw about the components and lessons revealed in his soon-to-be-released book, “The Ultimate Weight Loss Solution: The 7 Keys to Weight Loss Freedom.” Beginning on Friday, September 12th at 8 PM ET in “A Katie Couric Special,” Couric will sit down with Dr. Phil in an exclusive one-hour interview. The second part of the broadcast will consist of a one-hour forum discussion with a live studio audience about the issues surrounding weight. The following week on “Today” Dr. Phil will appear daily as part of a week-long series during which he will work with a “Today” viewer on their quest for weight loss.
The September 12th broadcast will examine obesity and address why the United States leads the world in this alarming epidemic. Couric will talk to McGraw about the personal reasons that led to his involvement in this particular issue. It will also feature people who struggle with weight problems, and McGraw will use them as an example to explain his plan to viewers across America.
In the second part of the special McGraw will use his familiar “no-nonsense” approach to talk with a live audience at New York City’s South Street Seaport about why dieting doesn’t work, the roles that family and the media play in how and what we eat and the differences in men and women when it comes to weight. McGraw will share his plan with the audience and viewers at home on what they can do to stop instinct eating, clean out their refrigerator and get rid of those “fat clothes.”
The special will also include an interactive quiz for viewers at home. Based on McGraw’s ‘Readiness Profile,’ ten questions will run throughout the live portion of show, and on NBC’s website (www.dateline.msnbc.com) which, according to McGraw will tell viewers how committed they are, and ready they are, to tackle their weight problems.
In addition, millions of radio listeners will have an opportunity to hear the special report on NBC News Radio, a joint venture with Westwood One, in selected markets on Friday, September 12th (please check local listings for times.)
During the weeklong series on “Today” McGraw will meet viewers who are struggling with their weight and could benefit from his plan. Each day a different viewer will appear on “Today” to sit down with McGraw and discuss their individual battle with their weight and try to develop a plan going forward. Each viewer introduced will be monitored by McGraw to see whether they could make the lifestyle change.
In McGraw’s new release, “The Ultimate Weight Loss Solution: The 7 Keys to Weight Loss Freedom,” he offers his philosophies about the no-nonsense, no-gimmicky way to weight loss success. He outlines them in “seven keys” that will offer people the tools it will take to “get real” and lose the weight.
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Thank-you so much Angel! The information you have posted is absolutely wonderful and very helpful. And it's nice to know when the special show is going to be aired --- Thanks so much! You have more then made-up for your days out of town

We are on our way to a better & new day.
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Thanks Angel! Don' t know about you but wish I had a cut of what he's going to make off this book! Got to go get more vcr tapes! Think I'm going to print off Angel's notes and work on them in my journal.

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Deb- Be my guest with all those notes.... I hope they help you....

Well USA Today had a story on the book... let me check there web site and see if they have a story there

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/r...hil-lede_x.htm

I dont know if this is the exact story but yall might be interested....


Well I bought the book today and am excited!!!!

What about making a little book club thread about this book and what we learn and think about the different chapters.... where we could bounce our thoughts and ideas off each other?
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Hello everyone!

Just curious....on what date does the series of Dr. Phil's own shows on weight loss start?
I have seen the ads but missed the date. Where I live his shows start at 5 p.m. and I don't get home until 6ish. I would like to tape the shows if I could.

Also in the latest monthly magazine from Costco (in Canada anyway-not sure if you get the same things in the States) there is an ad for some of the books they are getting in and I saw
Dr. Phil's book in the ad so I am assuming that Costco will be carrying it once it is released.
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Hey Mauv- Dr Phils New shows start next monday 9/15.... also there is a 2 hour special friday night with Katie Couric (I am not sure if you get NBC in Canada)...

The book was released today and it should be at Costco and everywhere for that matter.

I went to find the October Oprah Magazine today and it wasnt out at the store.... there is supposed to be an article there also....
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Wow! Thanks for the quick repy Angel! Yes we do get NBC up here- I will try to tape that show too.

Will the Dr. Phil show be about weight loss for the entire week or is it going to be only every Monday over a period of time?

I will keep an eye out for the new Oprah mag too.
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Hello people, I just wanted to comment on all the hubbub over Dr. Phil, especially when I saw the opposition from some of you, which was something I was very glad to see.

I had just mentioned elsewhere that I do not take well to Dr. Phil's approach. My sister had sent me one of his books earlier and I think it may have done more to keep me doing whatever I was doing or not doing than if I hadn't read it. The reason for this was his know-it-all attitude. His statements are often thrown out there as if they were absolute truths and I'm saying to many of them, "No, that isn't true!" Now, I realize that much of what he says is true for many people and that is undoubtedly the reason for his success and popularity. But, his opinions are simply that, opinions, not absolutes, not facts. It does bother me that he is being held up as an authority when he is not at all. An authority would not spout absolutisms. He or she would have a much more diverse, more all-encompassing view of things and his or her advice would reflect that. It bothers me more, however, that many people with issues, problems, are, because of the usually present lack of confidence, esteem, belief in themselves extremely vulnerable to this approach, vulnerable although it may not help them, and may hurt them. They are far more likely than most to buy into ideas when presented in an all-knowing manner. Yes, I agree, he surely has done a lot for many people. But preaching as if there was no other way, no other possibilities, no other realities, can also cause or fuel a lot of problems for many people. Many overweight people, or those with other problems, WANT to believe they are the problem, when that is NOT necessarily the case. It's those people I worry about.

What very much annoys me about his approach (and I admit I have not been exposed to the talk shows but I have read two of his books and now seeing Angel's notes see it's the same with the weight loss book). All these cliches, pop psych garble, such as "You either get it or you don't" are borderline abuse. No, I'm sorry, the human pysche is not a simple one plus one equation. It's not a matter of "either getting it or not." This kind of thinking is what brings about intolerance in the world and intolerance of others. Excuse me, but what is all this about being thin AND beautiful? What about chubby and beautiful, magnificently overweight and beautiful?! Yes, OK, there are health issues and I think the best reason for maintaining a healthy weight is to become healthy but health does not stop when bodyfat levels reach a certain percentage. Sadly, the idea of beautiful, in today's culture's very narrow view of things, does. This is what I hear from Dr. Phil and it angers me. He is adding to people's thinking poorly of themselves, wanting to gauge their value by their fat levels. He is actually adding to the images in the magazines. He is adding to the guilt felt by many who don't look like those images and a lot of his popularity is due to this I'm afraid. Why do so many people stay in abusive relationships? Because you return, you seek what you know. You seek what is familiar, EVEN if it's not good for you.

I could go down that list Angel posted and refute practically everything he has said. What he said is NOT wrong, meaning it IS a possibility, but everything he says could also NOT be the case. My God, people eat for many reasons, and some of them are very beautiful reasons, what is all this about "feeding the monster" and "getting real" -- negative terminology about something that is not necessarily ugly. "Real," what is real? What is his reality? Do I have to make it my own? Willpower doesn't work? You need a strategy? What do you think implementing a strategy takes? The will to do it. That's what willpower is. Being overweight is unnatural? Oh, come on. What is more natural than the body putting on fat when more calories are consumed than expended? What is natural about today's lifestyles? What is natural about sitting in a car or in front of a computer or TV for hours at a time? Heh, I don't need to work at it, believe me! Heal the disfigurement inside you? Now this is really arrogant! Excuse me, disfigurement? He could do so well as to have a fraction of the beauty that is in many overweight people. Much of their problems, if they are eating from pain, is pain that has come from the OUTSIDE, from the disfigurement of our society, our culture. The beginning to healing is to accept that they are OK inside, not disfigured.

OK, I better stop here. I DO think many people can benefit from a strong, in-you-face, bootcamp approach to things. Many people do need a good kick in the butt. But many don't and my heart goes out to them. Where is the gentleness for which they hunger? It's certainly not in the words of Dr. Phil!

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Red Ballon...although I do like Dr. Phil...I can see your point/view in some cases. I felt like you were rallying for me...the 380 lb overweight person who happens to have thyroid issues as well as insulin restistance and child abuse issues from age 5...

THE BEGINNING TO HEALING IS TO EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE OK INSIDE, NOT DISFIGURED. quote..redballon

That is my problem....I guess sometimes we/I want to be healed or helped ...what ever I call it...because I do feel broken!!!!!..and I do feel like he may/can help? You are looking for guidance when you are in my weight range..and you try... and you try to get the junk out of your head..and you are dealing with physical pain EVERYDAY...and you have to push yourself..push yourself...not to be the overweight person who just sits on the coach..NO!..you push thru the pain and you live life..but sometimes you get so darn tired of pushing thru the pain..that you are always looking for that one thing/book/person who will say what it takes to click...and I know that I have the power inside of myself for it to click...but sometimes we need a little help making that voice inside us "WAKE UP"!...Thank-you for making me think beyond my sometimes distorted view of myself! Except that I am ok inside and not disfigured..100 times.
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Quote from Dr Phil's new Book (Page 29).......

"Psychologally, though, your get real weight has little to do with numbers on a scale or other device. It means:

*You like your body and live in it with pride.
*You are happy and truly at peache with your size.
*You accept you God-given uniqueness.
*You treat your body with respect, care, and love.
*You like what you see in the mirror everyday.
*You focus your attention on living well, rather that looking good.

So, lovingly accept yourself, your natural body frame, your height, your bone structure, your entire genetic makeup- and set your sights on goals that match these factual realities, goals that you can realistically achieve........ "

Hey Red- Good to see you over here and I always love your views and opinions...

With Dr Phil - I dont think he is for everyone.... although I dont think any one thing or one person is for everyone.... With Dr Phil his approach is an "in your face" "be responsible for yourself" "no one can change you but you" type of guy..... Is he always right? I dont think so.... I think that everyone has to take everything that anyone says and ask themselves "Does this work or apply to me????" For me sometimes I need the "Kick in the Face".... Sometimes I am in so much denial that having someone put it in front of me and making me look at it is what I need.....


Dr Phil doesnt think everyone can or should be a perfect size 6..... he does discuss the actual medical stuff also.... he does admit that there are few people with a condition and he advises people to get checked out so that they now whether it is thyroid or if that is just a great excuse......

He believes in people living within the bounds of the heredity.... if you are a 5'2" girl with big bones and big boobs and everyone in your family looks like this then you will probably never be healthy at 109# (like the weight charts start at).....

I think you had alot of valid points Red and I agree with you in alot of ways.....

I am someone that is always looking for something to make me think about things..... and if he makes me think about my weight and the emotional baggage I carry then I appreciate that...... Do I think he can fix everything that is wrong with me? Doubt it.... but if he can get me to look at one thing that is beneficial to me then I think the $15 was well worth it....

Also - most of the information that he gives is a common sense approach that even the American Medical Association says is good...

Have a great day everyone..... I do love all the discussion back and forth.... it means we have incredibly intelligent women with great insights and opinions...... YEAH!!!!
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