everything jillian said now is just an excuse. LOL.
i don't know why people idolizing her, i mean, she's a trainer just like all other trainer out there, isn't she? she just is lucky enough to take a part in a real show, and even that show is just an unhealthy thing to look at. But i do credit it because people do have to sweat. But you know, it's like they are forced to sweat, not because they are "really" willing, if you know what i mean (because you know, most of them stay out of shape after leaving the show, so i really doubt that they took the show seriously for their health).
Another thing, I dont know why many people chose to be a personal trainer in the end. But i even don't know why many people dis-respect that decision. After all, a personal trainer is also a teacher. They don't teach at school but they teach people in the gym. They don't teach mentally but they teach us physically. They are still a teacher.
anyways, i've never really listen to jillian, except follow some of her workout - just like all the other workout out there. If her workout works for me, I'll follow it. Anything else is not a matter. I don't even know her so why would i have to place emotion on her anyways? I may not "really" respect her because you know, i don't know her, but i am not disrespect her either.
Choose what works for you.
I listened to her show on KFI going to the grocery store and errands after church on Sundays until she was taken off a few weeks ago...
one of the last shows I heard was her stressing putting chemicals in your body or on your body such as body washes/mouthwash/hair gels/etc. and how they cause cancer and other diseases.
That is why I am confused on the pill situation...
Even Richard Simmons pushes a variety of products on his website...including pills.
I went and looked at his website and there were no pills and could find no pills associated with him. I've never actually heard of him pushing any pills. Not to say that he may have at some point and I wouldn't say all pills are bad because were they vitamins or fad diet pills?
This isn't "about" TBL, but for a personal trainer to be on the show, it of course says something about their ideology.
This is about ideology, and I don't find it at all incongruent for a person who advocates such intense and extreme physical workouts, to support extreme dietary practices. She wouldn't be the first to rationalize that "all-natural" supplements are somehow different than artificially manufactured ones.
I'm just saying that this doesn't seem to be the huge "leap" in reasoning to warrant shock or surprise. I'm not even arguing whether extreme methods are or are not legitimate (I have my own opinions on that, but that isn't the point at all).
It just seems very odd to criticize the woman for an extreme viewpoint, when she's known for (and largely because of) her extreme viewpoint. If pushing past physical limits is ok (such as working out beyond the point of vomiting), why wouldn't pushing the limits in the area of diet and supplements, be just as valid. Just doesn't seem a huge mental leap to me.
I went and looked at his website and there were no pills and could find no pills associated with him. I've never actually heard of him pushing any pills. Not to say that he may have at some point and I wouldn't say all pills are bad because were they vitamins or fad diet pills?
To my recollection, I only ever remember him selling a line of vitamins - but they were of the One-a-Day multivitamin type, not fat-burners and such.
It just seems very odd to criticize the woman for an extreme viewpoint, when she's known for (and largely because of) her extreme viewpoint. If pushing past physical limits is ok (such as working out beyond the point of vomiting), why wouldn't pushing the limits in the area of diet and supplements, be just as valid. Just doesn't seem a huge mental leap to me.
Because as I said in my post Colleen....she spent 2 hours talking about how bad chemicals were to be putting into your body and the damage it does...then she sells pills with "chemicals"....
Cla's are just fatty acids. They are said to have antioxident properties.
The reason a disclaimer has to be added is because the fda makes it so. The fda seems to be fine with everyone injesting all sorts of chemicals and crap as long as they are in the form of fruit loops or fiber one bars, but when you buy milk from cows that haven't been treated with hormones, the fda makes sure those farmers put on their label that ...no studies show a difference, etc...
But the farmer that uses hormones and antibiotics doesn't have state so on their label. The fda is a joke.
I do find it also interesting that people seemed to be so jazzed on the 'chemicals' in these pills and anti organic at the same time. I would think if people didn't like stuff added to their food that was questionable and possibly unsafe that would be in all things they injest.
I'm not sure why people don't care about pesticides, added hormones, and plastics leeching into their foods.
I can understand that untreated foods are not readily available throughout this country, but I believe in doing the best you can with the information and resources you have.
Whoops, I misread the previous poster about cla's. Thought you meant it was a disclaimer of sorts.
I do still stand by my statement about the fda (even though it happens to be completely unrelated )
I just liked how she said, "Have a killer weekend" on her FB page. Anyone else catch that irony, given the stuff in those pills?
HA! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that!
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I guess it surprises me that anyone is surprised. The whole focus of The Biggest Loser has always been primarily on rapid weight loss, regardless of the possible consequences of the methods. I know they do take some medical precautions, but mostly the attitude on the show is that the risks of injury and illness are "worth it." If the BL trainers are unconcerned about sprains, strains, stress fractures, heat stress, exercise-induced asthma and other overwork injuries we've seen on the show, why would the risks of supplements be a concern?
To me, it's a perfectly logical extension of the "ends justifies the means" philosophy of the show. If it's ok to push your body beyond it's natural limits with intense exercise, it's not a big jump to be willing to do so with supplements.
I agree. I know this isn't about TBL, but the way Jillian pushes people and her methods is the very reason I would NEVER apply to be on that show. So it also does not surprise me that she'd push these pills that have the potential to harm some people.
There's absolutely no harm in wanting to earn as much money as one can, but to do it at the expense of others...I do have a problem with that. I've never been a Jillian fan.
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Originally Posted by kaplods
This isn't "about" TBL, but for a personal trainer to be on the show, it of course says something about their ideology.
This is about ideology, and I don't find it at all incongruent for a person who advocates such intense and extreme physical workouts, to support extreme dietary practices. She wouldn't be the first to rationalize that "all-natural" supplements are somehow different than artificially manufactured ones.
I'm just saying that this doesn't seem to be the huge "leap" in reasoning to warrant shock or surprise. I'm not even arguing whether extreme methods are or are not legitimate (I have my own opinions on that, but that isn't the point at all).
It just seems very odd to criticize the woman for an extreme viewpoint, when she's known for (and largely because of) her extreme viewpoint. If pushing past physical limits is ok (such as working out beyond the point of vomiting), why wouldn't pushing the limits in the area of diet and supplements, be just as valid. Just doesn't seem a huge mental leap to me.
Nor me.....
Gary, will you be uploading the video of you spanking Jillian? LOL!
Honestly, I didn't know she was such a guru and had built up this big empire outside of TBL until I came on this site. I guess I'm not disapointed because I'm not attached to any certain image of her
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