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Operator265 01-24-2009 11:32 AM

Do y'all watch your measurements too?

When I went on Blast Crew, which is a lot more physical than driving a haul truck, I expected the weight to just fall off. But it didn't. Huh???:?:

Then, about a month later, the guys at work(oh yeah, I'm a chick, and a miner, :blah:) started telling me I looked Soooo much better, "Have you lost weight?"

I took a good look in the mirror and realized that all though the scale hadn't dropped much, I was toning like crazy and was getting much tighter. Especially my butt, which is most of what y'all are interested in anyways.:lol: Just Kidding.;)

Could be what's happening with y'all too.:) Afterall, muscle is denser than fat and when you start building it you can plateau in weight loss yet still be firming.

EZMONEY 01-24-2009 11:35 AM

I knew she would sneak in here....she is such an operator

NoVaVTFan 01-24-2009 02:38 PM

Hi guys sorry for highjacking the thread, I just needed to ask - JB - only 1500 calories a day for a guy sounds like too little. Did a doctor put you on that amount or did you just choose a number? I am a 5 foot tall, 145 pound female and I am losing on 1500 a day. I have read that men should never go below 1800 cals a day, so if you are only 1500 a day and you are exercising a lot and not eating back those calories, you may be eating way way too little. You might want to do some research online and see if 1500 is enough for you - I don't think it is, and your body might not like such a small amount of calories especially with the exercise you are doing.

Just my two cents - sorry guys! just trying to help with all of he info I've been taking in over the last two years of losing weight. Good luck everyone!

Operator265 01-24-2009 07:01 PM

I never sneak in anywhere, Gary. I come in with a bang.:bomb: And be nice or I'll show everyone here your high school swim team picture.:p

Sides, figure if I have to hang out with guys all day at work, why not on my favorite forum. 'Specially now that several of the guys at work are chasing me down to find out how to lose weight. Girls aren't da only ones to get large sitting on their butts for 12 hrs a day 4-6 days a week. Figure it might help to get some Y chrome perspective. ;)

EZMONEY 01-24-2009 07:30 PM

You can hang out with me anywhere I go TNT!

but please....don't show that picture...I'm beggin here...beggin!

Justwant2Bhealthy 01-24-2009 10:58 PM

NOVA ~ I totally agree with your advice to "JB" ... that 1500 calories is too low for a man (esp a tall one at that); our local hospital 'dietician' says a woman should not go below 1500 C's a day to lose weight, and I'm sure for a man that number would be much higher. Many of the ladies here know from experience that low calories can lead to a weight-loss 'freeze'; meaning the body panics and won't allow any loss. Figure in, the aerobic exercises on top of that, and all the more reason to be concerned.

Maybe JB could up that to 1800 calories a day, like you suggest; and build his exercise routines up over time, giving his muscles and body some time to adjust and heal in between. How about one day of an intense workout, and one day lighter? For a trial period of a week or two, to start?

FOR SNACKS GUYS, maybe some mixed nuts in moderation, like almonds or pistachios; veggies and a dip tray; low-fat pepperettes; BBQ chicken wings (baked, not fried); low-fat cheese sticks or curds; or no-salt dry pretzels.

Just some ideas and thoughts ... good luck guys!

jb735u 01-25-2009 06:45 AM

Yeah but im not hungry like 1500 cal makes me feel satisfied :?: 3 meals 2 snacks and basically water all day doesnt get to much higher for my intake i guess ill try and add a few more snack ideas in then for more calorie consumption.

rinku 01-25-2009 02:57 PM

If you are happy with 1500 cals and your body shows no sign of feeling starved..I suggest stay at that limit. Its easy to spoil yourself with high calorie food than to get down. If I had been at your place I'd only try increasing some more forms of protein like two scoops of WHEY to provide additional stuff for the recovery & growth of my muscles which would even add up 220 cals a day.

My personal observation is not to cut too many calories initially as your body might show up some stages of plateaus if you do that, its wise to cut down slowly and start increasing the deficit, say you start from a 2500 cal diet..then go down to 2000 and then to 1500 as you gradually reach closer to your goals, You should not touch the extremes while starting up else you don't have much left to change when you see challenges like plateaus or trying to lose those last few stubborn pounds.

However this is all my opinion, you may like to do and follow what that works for you, if 1500 is what that works for you then that's where you should really stay at :)

slimmingsi 01-26-2009 05:26 AM

Omg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb735u (Post 2573915)
Yeah but im not hungry like 1500 cal makes me feel satisfied :?: 3 meals 2 snacks and basically water all day doesnt get to much higher for my intake i guess ill try and add a few more snack ideas in then for more calorie consumption.

i'm also 6 foot mind you i'm currently abotu 80lbs more than you. but previously at 226 i used to eat 3000 a day.

frankly i amdmire anyone who can eat under 2k a day and not feel hungry.

Redneck Charger 01-26-2009 07:54 AM

Well I am back after a few days off.. (computer problems).. Well I lost another 2 pounds, Started dieting 3 weeks ago yesterday.. Not sure exactly what I am doing.. I mean in calorie intake and such, I've just cut out fast foods, junk food, butters and salts.

Can't do alot of excercising just yet, as I said was in a car accident back in June, and just starting back to work this month, and only starting with a 2-1-2-1-2 hours, work hardening back to work. The hardest thing is just driving to work.

But I am lost when it comes to calories, and carbs, and etc. Trying to learn it, but it's not going to good. So any help in that department would be appreciated. Wish everyone luck in their quests..:dizzy:

slimmingsi 01-26-2009 10:28 AM

if your not active i'd suggest about 2000 a day. depending on your job. if your job is active i.e not sat at a desk most of the day up it a bit. maybe 2300

you should look at about 50% carb 30% protein and 20% fat as a general rule just to get you going. when you get more intune with what it all means you can play around.

its a ball ache but measure everything you eat and count the calories in each portion. if you eat a regular diet i.e pretty much the same breafast lunch and dinner most days or have say 3 different types of each meal per week yo should be able to do it off the top of your head in 2 weeks or so.

if you can't manage that (it is a pain in the arse) you can find an online calorie calculator. there are a few sites around but make sure you check for the first week manually as some of the sites info either drastically over/under estimates what your are eating.

hope this helps its all very very general but without knowing an awful lot about your circumstances there isn't much more i can say

flatiron 01-26-2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redneck Charger (Post 2575775)

But I am lost when it comes to calories, and carbs, and etc. Trying to learn it, but it's not going to good. So any help in that department would be appreciated. Wish everyone luck in their quests..:dizzy:

I had a little bit of a rough time when I started on Dec1 but it is a breeze now. People basically eat the same foods over and over just in different combinations.

You need a food scale (I got one at Walmart for $9 bucks) and some measuring cups (1 cup, 1/2 cup, 1/8 cup and I don't go below that) and use a tablespoon a lot for measuring.

Then you need to write down everything you eat EVERY day. Measure everything out. If you can't because you are out then estimate it thats better than nothing. And estimate it on the high side most people estimate to little when they do.

Then get a calorie counting book on go online and figure out the calories and fat content of everything you eat each day. I find it easier to carry a small note book around in my back pocket than to sit at the end of the day and try and remember everything I ate all day.

It's not all that hard and it gets easier as you go along. You just have to WANT to bad enough and you can do it!

The journal is the key because you can take a step back and see where your weak points are.

I can tell you from Dec 1 exactly what I had to eat on any day, how many calories it was (I am on a 1800 calorie a day diet), how many Weight Watcher points it was, what exercises I did that day and even if I took my vitamin that day!

You can do it if you want to lose weight bad enough!

good luck!

Redneck Charger 01-26-2009 11:33 PM

Thanx for all the help.. I think it would be alot easier to, if I could do excercise.. But will keep you all in touch as I do this.. thanx for the help..;)


slimmingsi 01-27-2009 11:49 AM

ok i have a question now there are a few new faces here only joined in the past few months but where have the rest of you been and why have i never seen you all before? i never realised there were so many blokes on here!

howie6267 01-27-2009 09:38 PM

Hey guys! Just a quick post to say hi. I'll be back to read and post tomorrow. Thanks Simon for tipping me off on this thread.

BillBlueEyes 01-27-2009 10:39 PM

Base Layer
 
I have a good manly question.

Anybody have a recommendation for a base layer?

My old cotton long johns need to be replaced and it's time to act grown up and get some moisture controlling stuff. Looked at some Under Armour. It's $49.95, but said to be worth it.

But here's my concern; it has no fly!!! So I'm supposed to give up my manly right to pee behind the nearest tree! Do all the athletes who wear Under Armour pull down their pants to pee? Are there any brands with good moisture wicking ability that still have a fly?

Opinions appreciated.

JayEll 01-28-2009 08:00 AM

Gosh Bill, your post got me interested. :o Have you looked on their website? Seems to me that all their men's underwear has a fly. But... what do I know? :dunno:

Jay

slimmingsi 01-28-2009 11:59 AM

under armour all the way bill. and yes pull down just far enough.

i've never been to boston but from what i've seen its warm in summer and cold in winter so you'll probably need 2 sets one for each season.

underarmour metal gear is the expensive end of the range but worth every penny and some. i've got 1 metal gear short sleeve top for the summer and i have two turleneck long sleeve cold gear ones for the winter/rain. which lets face it is most the year.

nike do a good range too. i get most mine off ebay just a tip can get it a bit cheaper. also if you fancy doing a search online you can try canterbury they are a rugby brand from new zealand but have recently been taken over i believe by addidas.
http://www.canterburynzusa.com/

Operator265 01-28-2009 02:36 PM

I got some Hot Chillys recently. They are warm when it's cold but don't make you hot when you go inside. Worked great both on the days when it was cold and when it wasn't. Good thing too since the weather has been fickle here lately. They are soft and comfy too. Made it thru the whole day at work without them bothering me.

Not sure about the fly since, for obvious reasons, I bought the women's, but they appear to have one from what I can tell on the web site. They were about $50 at Sport Chalet. I'm thinking about getting a top before my next day shifts. I've had a few snowbanks blown down my shirt recently. It sucks.

howie6267 01-28-2009 06:34 PM

Ok just thought I would chime in a little about myself. I've been on 3fc for 5 years and mostly hang out in the 100lb club. Simon and I both used to be active in the mens forum when there was one. However the guy running had some odd ways about the way he thought things should be and they closed the forum.

I am a calorie counter just because I think it's the easiest way to do it and you can have a variety of foods. I eat 1800 calories a day. I weighed 490 at my highest and am currently 312. Was as low as 245 but slipped up a bit after back surgery.

For exercise I walk to work. I walk at least 3 miles a day. I've never been into the gym and body building.

I hope this thread keeps going and I look forward to getting to know you guys.

In answer to the winter wear I still just go old school with cotton long johns.

Schumeany 01-28-2009 07:11 PM

Sorry, I'm invading your space gentlemen, but I like reading the male perspective, and when I saw how many calories Jeremy is eating, I couldn't keep my mouth shut. You need more food. I lost 50 pounds in 5 months on 1500 calories a day and I am 5'7" and female. It doesn't matter if you are not hungry, you need more calories...especially with the sudden, intense workouts. The reason you are stalling is most likely that your body is going into panic mode and is conserving as much of its energy as possible...eventually you will lose weight, of course, because, in essence, you are starving, but it will happen MUCH more slowly than it would if you were eating in your proper calorie range, and you're metabolism will drop drastically in the process and maintenance will be extremely difficult. My husband, who is 6'2" has lost 53 pounds in the last six months on 2200 a day. Get on a good calorie calculator and then just drop 500-1000 calories from that to figure out what to eat -- I bet you will be in AT LEAST the 1800 range and probably closer to 2000. If you don't fix this, I'm afraid you are going to be really, really sorry. OK, I'll shut up now...sorry for highjacking guys... :)

slimmingsi 01-29-2009 07:31 AM

last week i avereaged 4000 cal aday and still lost 1.5lb

zerocool 01-29-2009 10:38 AM

I try and keep calorie intake at 2k with exercise.

flatiron 01-30-2009 12:52 AM

I've been at 1800 calories a day but I TOTALLY messed up today!

I plan on being in the gym a long time tomorrow! :(

slimmingsi 01-31-2009 10:21 AM

the joys of the gym you can punish yourself for your sins

zerocool 01-31-2009 12:42 PM

I ordered the P90X DVD's form an info-mercial. It should be here next week. Anyone here try that before? Hear anything good (or bad) about it?

ArchRaw 02-01-2009 09:28 PM

Hey guys, just thought I would drop by this thread. Was trying to figure out if there were any other guys ibn this forum. I guess this answers that question. I am on the You:You on a Diet Plan and since it isn't about counting calories I can only guess that I am right around 2000 a day. Dropped a good amount of weight in the first 3 weeks and am just starting my 4th week now.

Talk later

slimmingsi 02-02-2009 08:43 AM

glad you could make it. not heard of the plan your on what is it?

Redneck Charger 02-02-2009 02:49 PM

Where do I get that scale thing underneath everyone's name??:dizzy:

slimmingsi 02-02-2009 03:51 PM

at the top of the page where the options are in the purple bar click on quick links. its halfway down sig weight tracker.

ArchRaw 02-02-2009 09:18 PM

Hey slimmingsi, the book is called You: On A Diet - The Owners Manual For Waist Management. In a way it is just a common sense sort of plan, there is a section of the forum for it under the diet plans. It is by far the smallest portion of the forum.

The book book basically goes into body and brain anatomy and explains why we get hungry and what our body does with food. Other programs I have been on give a basic over view of biology but this one goes into it in some depth. For some reason that has helped me to be more motivated.

The plan itself is pretty typical. Eating 5-6 times a day, lots of fruit and veggies and strictly prohibits sugar, corn syrup, and other simple sugars. It promotes eating nuts every day as well as minimum of 30 mins of exercise a day. Instead of counting calories you just eat the allowable foods and listen to our body to determine how full you are and get used to obtaining that comfortable amount of full rather than stuffed.

Seems to be working for me so far and I never seem to be hungry on this eating plan. My cravings for the bad foods have pretty much disappeared as well. So the books promise that the plan can change your brain chemistry to help you eat and choose proper food seems to be true. The good thing about it is this is the most motivated I have ever been after 3 weeks on a plan so I am looking forward to it staying that way.

BillBlueEyes 02-02-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redneck Charger (Post 2590419)
Where do I get that scale thing underneath everyone's name??:dizzy:

To protect the site from spammers, the rules are that you have to be signed up for 20 days and have 20 posts before you can have a tracker. (It might now be 30 and 30). You've got the posts; just have to wait for your days.

Redneck Charger 02-03-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillBlueEyes (Post 2591326)
To protect the site from spammers, the rules are that you have to be signed up for 20 days and have 20 posts before you can have a tracker. (It might now be 30 and 30). You've got the posts; just have to wait for your days.

Thanx.. few more days to wait..:dizzy:

slimmingsi 02-04-2009 06:26 AM

oh its only a few weeks to the start of the bbq season :D

zerocool 02-04-2009 09:36 AM

Charcoal or Gas?

Operator265 02-04-2009 10:14 AM

When is it not BBQ season?

slimmingsi 02-04-2009 01:48 PM

fair one operator fair one. gas i'm afraid can't really do charcoal in the uk or you'd only be able to use it on the 2 days of the summer when its not raining

howie6267 02-04-2009 04:37 PM

Charcoal for flavor when I have time to relax. Gas when I just need to get it cooked. Oh that sounds good a steak on the grill with a cold beer and a baseball game to listen to. To bad it's freaking 10 degree F outside.

Operator265 02-04-2009 08:59 PM

2 full-size gas Grills, a mini gas for portability, a full size smoker and and a regular size charcoal grill with fold over legs for portability. Oh, oh, oh, two weeks ago I got a stove top smoker.:carrot:

When I was married, the X and I would get it going in the dead of winter back in WY, but Salt Lake gets inversions over the valley in the winter and they have "Red Burn" days and you can't have BBQs or fireplaces burning.:mad:

slimmingsi 02-05-2009 10:26 AM

what happens if you fireplace is the only heating you have?

bbq is the best! its just pain trying to light a bbq in the rain stood under and umberella


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