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Elerine 02-16-2007 08:49 AM

Hey everyone

I'm well and truly on the Uni train as well! 2nd year management and international studies.

We are sweltering in 40C heat at the moment - it makes life so tricky. its hard to stay motivated when you are sweaty before you even get to the car to go to the gym!

Go Leeny! well done!

I ate breakfast today, and lunch, an achievement! healthy too! Oh, Ani! I had 2l + water today! woo! I'll try to keep that up everyday, especially while its hot.

Take care

Kylie

pacman12 02-16-2007 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PerthChick (Post 1575022)
Gen I'm curious. Why would you want your life to be totally about you? And in what way is it different to the past?

I just meant that I have *me* on project status - I'm dedicating this year to finish my masters, get myself in better shape than any time in my life, maintain my depression with exercise and medication, sort out the next phase of my life re work, quit smoking etc.

In the past, I've worried about everyone else and just let myself slide, then wondered how I got to that stage once I'm down in the dumps. No more!

I did some counselling, I'm eating properly, I'm cooking, and exercising, and worrying about myself for a change! I think I'll have more to give to others if I look after myself better.

PerthChick 02-16-2007 09:24 AM

Gen good on you for recognising that your own needs (and indeed health) were suffering, and for finding the strength and courage to do something about it.

Sounds like you're embarking on an adventurous and life-changing journey. Can't wait to see where it takes you :)

Kylie you poor thing - you have my sympathy about the 40ºC heat. I was complaining about the same thing here a few weeks ago. Did you end up getting yourself some scales?

:-)
Ani

Elerine 02-16-2007 04:59 PM

I didn't end up getting any scales this week. :( I just plain ran out of time. I will be in town (CBD) on Monday, so I'll check it out then.

Damn this heat. I only live half-hour's walk away from work, and sometimes I do walk, because its a nice day, or I am low on petrol! I was going to today (for the latter reason!) but it just seems silly in this weather. Oh well, I'm sure I'll burn kjs trying to bite my tougue all day at rogue customers!

Kylie

PerthChick 02-16-2007 05:50 PM

We have our Biggest Loser team meeting today. In my team (the Purple Team) there are 19 women whose weight ranges from 154kg to 80kg, and this is our last full week before competition begins.

I'm a little disappointed that some people are doing a last-chance pig out, and gorging on all their favourite foods for the week prior to the competition starting. Why is it that people associate weight loss with deprivation? Or feel like we are missing out on something when we decide to become healthy? Maybe if someone could unlock the answer to that one, we wouldn't have a major obesity problem in the first place.

I'm determined to meet my own personal goals over the weekend. I want to be able to come in here on Monday morning and report another weight drop… after such a long plateau it will be exciting to report a loss TWO weeks in a row :). So I plan to walk today, eat plenty of yummy nutritious food, and drink water.

I'm supposed to go to a birthday party tonight for two of my team members. These women are at the higher end of the scales and I know they'll have chips, dips, lollies and Coke served in plentiful supply. Not to mention party pies, sausage rolls and all that crap!

So my plan is to eat before I go, and make sure I feel full. Most of those foods don't tempt me in the slightest - except chips, which I can't seem to stop eating once I start!

OK - I hope you all have a great weekend.

:)
Ani

leeny 02-16-2007 08:06 PM

Hey all

Just a quickie as per usual as i never seem to have enough hours in the day for anything anymore(or still)....

Been good yesterday again although jumped on the scales this morning and i have gained 0.5 from last weigh in....yes yes i know i shouldn't and it is only mid way through my weigh in week but i am still not happy about that. The only thing i can think of is that i ate some peanut m&ms a few days ago and they decided to stick...hope not. No exercise this week(or can i count walking around the Uni....it is a big one and lots of walking to various events etc). It has been raining here all week too...i have soooo much washing to catch up now. WE have a king tide tommorrow and they say with all the rain we have had it will flood in parts of the coast. I intend to go look tommorrow and maybe it will be a nice day and i could walk then...heres hoping.

Anyhow, must away....am going to a Psychic this arvo...a girlfriend is having a party with a psychic....i don't know about it but will go anyway as it does intrigue me even though i am sceptical. I wonder what my future will bring?????Better be a good one.....

Have a good day all....xxxleeny

Lindor 02-16-2007 08:45 PM

Morning all!

I missed my daily post yesterday, and I have no real excuse!!!

So yesterday mornings post would have read...

Not such a good day. Was out for lunch - steak sandwich and chips. And on the way home from work I picked up a tube of Pringles!!! I only managed about 1 litre of water and again no exercise!!!

Today (on yesterdays efforts)...

Was better! Ate to plan. Drank only a litre again, and again no exercise!

I have been feeling really buggered this week! And with the events of the last few weeks I guess that is to be expected.

I plan on resting well this weekend, and then trying to get some exercise into my life again next week!

I am hoping on some sort of loss to show on the scales on Monday, other than Thursday I have done well this week (so far) with my intake! Even if I failed in the exercise and water department.


Ani, I am wonder why it is people feel they have to binge proir to dieting? To me that is only going to make it more difficult. They are just making their bellies feel constantly full now and once they start dieting they are going to feel the hunger more!

Hope the birthday party is fun and the chips aren't too tempting for you. I am bad for party foods too! Just as well I don't get to many of them :lol:

Gen good luck on the personal changes you are making, just be careful not to totally isolate yourself from other people while concentrating on yourself. Loneliness is not fun.


40C - beautiful!!! :lol: Well it might be to some, if you are looking out the window from a comfortably airconditioned room anyway!

I have issues at work with temperature control! It is so damn cold in my office I am rugged up in a thick jumper and it is not uncommon to find a small electric heater running under my desk. Seems so stupid at this time of the year when it is constantly something like 38C - 43C here! By lunch time I am hanging out for the walk to my car and to get into the steaming thing to thaw out!!!

I hope it cools down for you Kylie...extreme temperatures can be very limiting.

And I reckon your bf owes you a Valentines day considering his poor efforts this week!!! :p

Vonni! Fantastic on your 3kg drop!! That must be inspiring for you! Did the doc make any suggestions to avoid the problem of under eating? I have the same fear of snacking too.

I don't have the control Ani appears to have when it comes to having a supply of fun-size chocs in the house. I know if I got them, or a pack of muesli bars or something, I'd sit there eating until all of them are gone! Then I'd feel proud of myself for only eating small stuff :lol:

Leeny, well done on another drop! And congrats on getting that bit closer to yet another 10kg milestone! You are doing so well...it is great to see!!! :)

Cite? What appetite suppressants are you using? :p Sorry, I had to ask too!

I tried Multi-vitamins once when I was constantly feeling run down. I thought I was missing something so decided to give them a shot! I gave up after a few weeks because I wasn't feeling any better and I was jealous that my pee was looking brighter than I was!!!!

And now that I have resorted to toilet humour I think it might be time I signed off!

HAve a great weekend ladies :)

Lindor 02-16-2007 08:52 PM

Leeny, I must have been slowly posting my reply when you posted yours...

Don't stress about the .5kg gain. You know this happens and you know you can get back on top of it. It is not uncommon for the body to gain and lose some with no regard to your efforts. Don't let this get you down and ruin your efforts!

Can't say I am into psychics...I'd rather wait and see what my future holds than fear what someone says might happen. Just my opinion though!

Enjoy the walk at your king tide day tomorrow :)

PerthChick 02-17-2007 05:33 AM

Lindor you crack me up! I can just picture you eating a bag of fun-size chocolates and feeling virtuous because they were only little :). I was always the kind of person who, if I had chocolate or chips in the house, I would have to eat them - ALL of them. It was pathetic! One of the first things I disciplined myself to do, when I started losing weight, was just to have a small amount.

Now I have a smorgasbord of chocolate in my pantry - but I only eat a little bit when I feel like it. It is one of the major changes I've made in the last seven months.

I hope you're getting that relaxing weekend. I've been running around all day today, but hopefully tomorrow - after I take one of the kittens to the vet to get him sterilised, I can have a very laid-back day. Wouldn't mind going to swap-meet and seeing if there are any bargains, and taking a stroll along the beach… I'll see how I feel.

Right now I'm trying to work up the energy to go to a birthday party - I'm not at all sure I'll go. My back's really off today, and I hardly know anyone who'll be there. Hmmm…

It's been a good day in terms of achieving my calorie/exercise goals. Just don't mention water :).

Elerine 02-17-2007 06:09 AM

Water? I think I might ditch the bf for my water bottle tonight!!! It went over 40C today, and even standing inside all day did nothing to keep me cool! I'm well into my 3rd litre already, and we are going out to tea after this. I think I'll lay of the fizzies and have more water!!!

I read a really interesting book today, called the "No-time-to-lose" Diet. There was a review on the 3FC homepage, and I bought it. (First ever purchase online! Woo!) I guess it's nothing I really haven't heard before, but it was good to see it all in one place. It had suggestions of -really- simple meals, with an emphasis on speed and nutrition. also had tips on eating out, which I am putting into place tonight! I was planning on fried lemon chicken, but I'll see what else is there instead! Yay - positive changes! I had brekkie and lunch again today, and tea coming - wow! 3 meals in a day! I know that should be a no brainer, but its really an achievement for me!

Ani I hope your back doesn't give you too much trouble. I would go to the party - you never know who you might meet!

Lindor, I'm going to make dinner tonight my pseudo-Valentines. (read: he'll pay ;) )

Leeny, as for the pychic, I'd go out of curiosity, and on the back of a few interesting stories from family memebers. Absolutly count walking around uni - campus can be really big if you have to cross to get to your next lecture! Are you at QUT or UQ?

Okay, thats it from me. Wow, I'm feeling really positive, even if I do have to forgo my scales this week for a long overdue scooter service!!

Kylie

pacman12 02-17-2007 06:13 AM

Actually I'm doing the opposite Lindor - the more healthy I get, the more I am getting out and doing things I wouldn't have dreamed of - like playing soccer with workmates at lunchtimes, or going to orienteering after work. I still haven't worked up to joining the workmates swimming before work on Fridays, but I'm at my personal trainer then so I've got my excuse and I'm sticking with it!

Finished Week 4 of the C25K today - terrified as week 5 involved a TWENTY minute run!!! Thinking I might start week 5, see how I go, and add another week of W4 if I don't cope.

Got my grocery delivery today - tried www.greengrocer.com.au which a workmate uses - you can get $30 mixed fruit and veggie box, so I've got a bunch of stuff I'd never choose to buy! This week will involve working out how to cook and eat new veggies and my god, I've got so much fruit I can't fit it in my fruit bowl!

Hoping I lose this week after trying Core, but it's TTOM for me untikl tomorrow, so we'll see what happens on Monday.

cite 02-17-2007 07:23 AM

Hi all! I'm on reductil which can only be prescribed by the Dr. and its for people who are clinically obese OR overweight and at risk of diabetes [which is me :(]. I only have a 2 month prescription - it is not suppose to be a long-term thing just long enough so that you can change your eating habits. It alters the levels of some brain chemical [a bit scary] so you dont crave/binge on food. I really can tell the difference - I used to have one freddo followed by nine more, now I can just have one, if any. The big drawback is the cost - $110 a month! I cant afford this since Im unemployed at the moment and will be for a while, but my parents grudgingly paid for it this month. It is effective for me because I have a very large appetite, even without the emotional eating, so it depends on what caused the weight gain in the first place, and there are side effects [but other than a strange metallic taste when I eat popcorn I seemed to have missed most of them]. Worth asking your doctor about - mine was reluctant to give it to me other than for the reason I put on over 15kg in like 4 months! But I can see problems with it if people dont really change their habits or exercise and then go of it and have a worse diet than they did before.

No treadmilling today because I spent 10 hours cleaning/putting IKEA furniture together. So far have disposed of 10 garbage bags worth of stuff from as far back as 7/8 years ago, including clothes I havent worn since year 5. How embarassing. Feeling better now though, although Im going to feel it tomorrow. I'm wiped now, so im going to bed early [yes this is early for me, stupid teenage hormones :mad:]. I hope everyone has a great day tomorrow! :carrot:

PerthChick 02-17-2007 04:40 PM

Cite I hope you won't need to take Reductil for too long - keep vigilant about how you're body's reacting to it. I know a couple of people who used it, and it really stuffed their sleeping patterns up (aside from anything else). It's also really easy to put the weight back on when you stop taking the pills.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do here - I'm not a big fan of taking a pill to fix a lifestyle problem, I will admit that. But one of the reasons Reductil is so expensive is to try and put people off using it for too long - another is that it behaves in a similar way to amphetamines in your body (not as much as Duramine does). I don't know if you're into party lollies or not, but just in case, please don't take anything like speed while you're on Reductil. That would put unbearable pressure on your body.

There are lots of safer ways to teach yourself to suppress your appetite and not eat those 9 Freddos. And I'd be happy to chat to you about that more if you wanted to - I'm just aware that I'm probably sounding like I'm already giving you a 'mother lecture'. I don't mean to do that. Did you wake up with aching muscles after your marathon furniture-building-cleaning-throwing day yesterday? I know whenever I put Ikea furniture together I swear a lot, and usually screw at least one thing in back to front and have to undo it and start again :).

Kylie you're sounding really motivated - and given the heat, I am amazed. Have you ever read the book You On A Diet? It's meant to be one of the best weight loss books around, and if you're strapped for cash I'm sure you could pick it up from a second hand bookshop.

Gen your post made me laugh - not in a rude way. I just had this mental image of Lindor trying to do orienteering, or playing soccer in her lunch hour. Where she lives it's 40ºC-plus in the shade at this time of year, and they'd send a search party and ambulance if she ventured outdoors :).

But good on you for getting out there - you sound really motivated too.

Right - I'm gonna be late for the vet if I don't get off this computer NOW!

:)
Ani

Lindor 02-17-2007 08:06 PM

Gen, I think you kinda misunderstood what I meant - or maybe I worded it poorly. But that's ok, because your reply suggests you are happy and content with how things are going for yourself and that's great! I am pleased for you.

I was a lazy pig yesterday :(

Did nothing...ate everything. You know, for someone who doesn't go shopping that much, I sure have a lot of food in my cupboards when I want to find it!!!

I am not going to get upset about this! Although I have more than in recent weeks, I am still trying to find the motivation to keep doing this - something in my mind wants to do it, the rest of me doesn't care. I have done reasonably well for the week, so I am hoping I can still show a loss tomorrow.


I know absolutely nothing about appetite suppressants - I only asked about them because it seemed to be the question of the year!!! :p

Personally I avoid medications as much as possible too. I only use pills when I feel I have no other option, and that is when I have relented and made myself see a doctor and they've insisted I take the drugs!! And believe me, I don't go see doctors very easily nor often!!! I am with Ani in that l wouldn't use a pill to fix lifestyle problems.

But Cite, that is not saying there is anything wrong with taking them, and I hope your doctor is monitoring your progress closely.


Kylie, fantastic on the good day yesterday! And I agree you are sounding very motivated!!! Keep it going! And I hope dinner went well ;)


I'm looking at another lazy day...last night I did briefly think I might go for a drive to the river this afternoon - if it cools down a tad!! Just to get out of the house for a bit - go for a walk along the bank, take in some fresh air.

See if I can't find a crocodile to play with! Then I might try and make some money by skinning it, bringing the skin home to make some shoes and selling them on the internet!!! Or not!!! :lol:

This morning...I am thinking it is too hot already!!! :lol:

Enjoy your Sunday ladies :)

cite 02-18-2007 03:33 AM

Ani - thanks for the [mini] lecture. :hug: I havent even taken the tablets for a few days, so im pretty sure im not addicted to them [I dont know where they are in my room lol]. The main thing I have learnt is that it is possible to NOT think about food all the time - if I think too much about eating, even when I am trying to lose weight, I eat more and cant concentrate on other things. When I've reached my lowest weight before, about three years ago, I would spend too much time thinking about whether I should have one piece of cake, and in one way I think my weight gain was just a rejection of that and of the pressure to be thin in general. But it backfired, obviously. It actually seems to have helped my sleeping a bit, although they were terrible to begin with. The main reason I asked for them was because I had been eating less and treadmilling for up to two hours a day [too much, I know] for about two months and still kept gaining weight and was about to give up entirely. Now that I have lost a couple of kilos I know I can stick with it when I go off the tablets, which might be soon because I really cant afford another months supply. But all your criticism was valid, so thanks :). [And no I dont pop 'party lollies' ha ha - Im sure I would be one of those people who overdoses on like 1/20 of a tablet of something - besides, I have a tendency to trip over after 1 standard drink of alcohol :dizzy:].

Yes my muscles kill! I still had heaps of cleaning and furniture building today so im wiped now! I love IKEA though, my room is so much cleaner, although I will have nightmares about some of the things I found :o. Im going now to watch Ugly Betty and Grey's Anatomy - not that I need another TV show to watch. Oh well. I hope everyone had a great day!

leeny 02-18-2007 03:52 AM

Hey all

Lindor..did you catch your crocodile?I'll have 2 bags thanks:D

Cite....Not on your case either as you are doing what you feel right for you at the time. I have tried Reductil before and found in the long run i am better off "going alone" and to try and fix "other stuff" and not rely on the pills as the answer. I did put on a lot of weight when i went off them(too expensive and made my poo very runny and fatty looking..yes TMI i know). So please be careful and keep chating to us...that helps too....hey girls.

Ani...did you get to your party? I went to the psychic out of curiosity. He didn't really tell me anything i didn't already know only that he asked me if i was studying this year. Thats right and i will not win Lotto. A big waste of time really but had fun with the girls and i only drank diet coke and no nibblies. I did have a muffin today though and still no exercise as it is still raining...who needs some wet stuff there way as i am sick of seeing it....soooo much washing and my house very musty smelling. It has been about 10 days on and off but it looks like clearing tonight.

My diet only so so this week. Feeling a bit blurky tonight ...i feel like i am getting a cold. I don't know whether it is my Hep B vacination or not or am unlucky enough to catch a cold just when i am starting Uni tommorrow....eekk. I can't remember who asked...i am going to University of the Sunshine Coast to do Bachelor of Nursing Science...3 years full time and probably lots of stress. I am hoping i can cope with my crazy family life so if i am MIA for a while...i will be back...just busy.

Anyhow, need to go and shave the furry legs in readiness for Uni tommorrow...DH just said why are you worrying...let em grow....you will fit in just right:dizzy: Hope all who weighs in tommorrow gets a big loss...

PerthChick 02-18-2007 07:22 AM

Cite, I'm a big fan of Ikea too. Even though I hate shopping, I often pop into Ikea. As ridiculous as it might sound I have even been to Ikea in Stockholm - couldn't understand a single sign in the shop though, because there was no English sub-text. And they have a range that I drooled over :).

I wasn't meaning to lecture you - so I hope you don't take it the wrong way.

Good luck with Day One of Uni leeny. I will refrain from making any comment about your hairy leg stereotyping, even though some of my closest friends don't even own a razor :).

Weigh-in day tomorrow, and I'm a bit concerned about what will arrive first: TOM or Monday. Oh well, nothing I can do about it. I did 100 step-ups and 80 situps while watching The Biggest Loser tonight. I'm gonna be sore!

I have my kitten home from the vet. He's walking crab-like because clearly the anaesthetic hasn't quite worn off. But all went well, and at least now that he's home the other cats have stopped moping around and looking for him. They're pathetic little woosies, my fluffy things.

Where's Lindor? Must be still out wrestling that bloody crocodile.

:)
Ani

Lindor 02-18-2007 08:41 AM

I survived...and it will still be a full bodied weigh in tomorrow as I didn't lose any limbs either! :p

Actually...I never went to the river!!!

Instead I sat at home shut in my bedroom for most of the day making the most of the airconditioner!!! The one in the lounge room decided to die today :(

And Lord knows when that will get fixed!! God I love this time of the year in this part of the world!!! NOT!!!

In the middle of a storm just now, so it has cooled down at tad.

Leeny, good luck for day one of Uni life tomorrow! Although I am sure you will do fine! And the blurk feeling could well be from the Hep B vaccine. I get a bit blurky after my annual flu shot!!!

I was going to redo my whole kitchen at the house with IKEA...but alas, I was forced to sell, so I am yet to experience IKEA. I have only ever looked at the catalogues too, never been in a store! I guess I am missing out? One day!!

Not sure what my weigh in will show tomorrow. I haven't controlled myself all that well this weekend, but the earlier part of the week was good.

I did a few calculations the other night and for me to be at a healthy weight for my height I need only lose 15kg more...I was aiming for the lower end of the ideal weight/height range initially just to be sure I would not slip back into the 'overweight' range without knowing, but for now I'd be happy just to get to it! All I need to do now is believe that 15kg is worth it and doable!!

Alright, I have two dogs and a cat demanding my attention (dogs want out, cat wants food)!! Will post with my weigh in results in the AM.

Glad your family is back together and all is well Ani!

Night all :)

pacman12 02-18-2007 03:48 PM

Leeny, good luck with your first day of uni - enjoy O week!

I weighed in at 95.3 this week = 600g loss. It's a bit frustrating, but the trainer said to expect a slower loss as we're doing a lot of toning and weights so might even gain some muscle. I made over 10kg lost, anyhow, so that's a win!

I am feeling great though! Exercised every day last week, including an hour walking on the treadmill while watching TBL last night. Trainer is killing us with lots of running, but it's getting easier after just a week.

Good luck on weigh-in everyone! :)

Lindor 02-18-2007 04:27 PM

Well done on the 600g loss Gen!

I weighed in at 82.5kg this morning - 1kg down - YAY! But 1kg on my scales could be anything between 0.5kg and 1kg. But it went down so I am happy and my new, more precise scales should arrive any day now :)

Going to try and do the same for this week, with a little more control on my need to make a pig of myself occasionally, and maybe try and get some exercise in too!

Ani, no pressure, but I really want to smile again this week! :p

Got my fingers crossed for a loss to show on your scales too.

As I hope for everyone else as well :)

plumptobump 02-18-2007 04:38 PM

(sigh) You'd think I would learn...I cant stay away from you girls for more than a day at a time, or I just get lost in all of the posts!!! I DID read through them however and have had a few chuckles....especially Lindor and her noble attempts at eating "small" chocolates, and Lenny with her fatty poo. :D

Sounds like you all are doing magnificently and are continuing on this journey of health and wholeness. I did want to mention cite, that I SWEAR by chromium for cravings!! Im on high doses for my insulin resistance, but even in small doses...they are wonderful...and a whole lot cheaper than what youre currently paying a month! ;)

All is good here. Ive lost 1kg since last Wednesday - I weighed a couple of days early as I was keen to see how LightNEasy was working. Am pleased with that loss. That means Ive lost 3 kgs in the last 3 weeks and thats right on target for me. Im going to start upping my water again - I drink 2l a day, but at my body weight, I should be drinking more like 3 or 4. Jonno has decided that hes going to be so busy over the next few weeks and cant handle early mornings if we go walking together. :mad: Boo! That means I will have to keep myself motivated to walk. I am not a morning person (altho Carter forces me to be), so I will walk on the treadmill at night after putting him down. Hopefully Jonno will get his butt into gear and walk with me in the mornings as well in a few weeks' time. Tell ya what, although this stupid PCOS thing is really an annoyance and an expensive venture to treat, I am happy that it has been a bit of a wake-up call for me. I think I needed to have a health issue to get me motivated and going again, because now, I dont have an option - I HAVE to lose weight if I dont want to develop diabetes and if I want to get pregnant again. We are still trying - this is my last cycle on the fertility meds tho (they have some crazy side effects!), so we will just try naturally after that. Im hoping that as I lose the weight, am exercising, eating healthy and managing my insulin sensitivity with supplements, that my body will kick back into gear and start regulating everything again. Time will tell. :dizzy:

Congrats on all the losses girls!! Does anyone feel like another 21-day challenge?!? :D Im going to one with my water and exercise as my eating is going to stay pretty much the same....join me if you want!

Welcome to all the newbies! Its lovely having other Aussies in here....

Have a great day ladies! See you *tomorrow*...

Britt

PerthChick 02-18-2007 05:12 PM

There ya go Lindor - 1.2kg GONE :). And how happy am I to see you drop a kilo too!!!

Gen I wouldn't feel anything but happy with a 0.6kg loss. That's excellent. You too Britt - woo hoo!

Since I have never been in the habit of losing a kilo/week I'm not going to put pressure on myself to try and do it for three weeks in a row. But I am going to try really hard to get to 92kg by next Monday. I've been writing all my calories down for the last two weeks, so I think that's what has made the difference for me.

I also did my measurements this morning and am very pleased. Not being used to dropping 2.3kg in two weeks I got the tape measure out to make sure this was real. I won't bore you with the details, except to say I have now lost 14cm from my waist and hips - and 6.5cm from my knees :).

Good luck this week everyone. Britt, if you want a 21-day challenge I'll go there.

:)
Ani

cite 02-18-2007 06:00 PM

Congrats everyone for your weight loss! I lost 0.5kg, but I think I have actually decreased in size a bit more than that but it has been compensated by the muscle I am putting on so I am not upset by the result. :carrot:

Britt - I have never heard of chromium for cravings before, but I typed it into google and I cant believe what I have found in some medical study about treating depression and cravings with chromium:

"Atypical depression is a common but frequently undiagnosed depressive disorder, affecting up to 42% of 19 million Americans with depression and is characterized by mood reactivity and two or more of the following symptoms: significant weight gain, hypersomnia [characterized by recurrent episodes of excessive daytime sleepiness or prolonged nighttime sleep], leaden paralysis, and a long-standing pattern of interpersonal rejection sensitivity. Clinical features also include carbohydrate cravings and unexplained fatigue."

OMGD this is me! My parents have been so worried about my inability to stay awake during the day, but I didnt know what was causing it...sorry this is one of those lightbulb moments! :dizzy: How much chromium do you have each day Britt and do you just buy it from the chemist/health food store? I will have to ask my Dr. about this when I go on Friday. Although I dont think I have leaden paralysis and im not too sure what 'interpersonal rejection sensitivity' is.

Well, I hope everyone has a fabulous day. I have an awards ceremony :( - I have a feeling I will trip on the stage and squash the Premier :o. Oh well.

7senuf 02-18-2007 06:11 PM

OMG you all have had great weight losses this week. :bravo:
Thats enough to make me motivated even more. Its so good to see that hard work and determination does pay off. I weighed myself this morn and haven't gained(thought I might have since Friday as been slack on the walking past few days.) Looks like a couple hundred grams loss, but my scales are in kg so only way to tell is when it drops at least half way between the lines at 500.

Oh gosh Britt, I envy you being motivated by walking with your partner. I wish I could have that companionship, but at the moment I hate walking with the kids or my DH because they never SHUT UP :blah: and are always going at different paces. I look upon my walks as ME TIME and enjoy the solitude. I can think and reflect on the day and make plans in my head for the next. It's the only real chance I get to be with my own thoughts.


Ani have you been to www.fitday.com? I signed up and put in everything , food eaten, activities done etc... It keeps track and can give you a report on calories burned vs eaten and nutrition and all. Its more american food, but if you really look hard you can find what we have. If it''s something I've made from scratch like a casserole, I just put the individual things in the eaten section. I got my Dr to have a look on Friday, he logged in as me and checked it out. He was amazed. Said it was pretty spot on and to keep it up.

Good luck with Uni Leeny. I hope you have a wonderful day.

Cite are reductil the ones that stop your body absorbing the fat and just eliminate it by making you go for poo? Or are they just an appetite suppressant and the poo is a side affect only some people get? I can never figure out the logic in those type. Like, if its stopping you from absorbing fats, is it also preventing you from absorbing all the nutrients from foods as well? A friend of mine was one tabs that did that, can't remember the name. And she had horrible bloating and gas and really fatty poos (not that she showed me) :barf:

I've been on duromine before. Just to kickstart me into breaking my binging and snacking habits. They worked a treat. I took them for 3 months and ended up losing 24kg. I was edgy for a couple of weeks and sleep was disturbed, but the side effects settled down after that. I think if my willpower doesn't get me far or I come to a stand still in weight loss I might go on them again for a month or 2 just to boost me a little.

Lindor I've never walked into an Ikea store either. Is that the store that sells the lovely furniture that comes in a flat pack and you assemble yourself? I think I've seen ads in magazines. I got my daughters bedroom furniture from Kmart in flat pack and you have to read instructions upside down to understand them.

Anyhow, I really must conclude this novel and I better go get motivated and have brekky then do some housework:( I got the book how to speedclean you house in 15 minutes a day. The cover lied (or omitted the full truth). You have to prob spend 3 months getting it organised beforehand. I've started on my laundry. The office is next. (that's a nightmare)

Sorry to bore you all with my ravings.:dizzy:

TTFN

Vonni :wave:

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Lindor 02-18-2007 10:51 PM

Briefly on to say how inspiring it is to have so many reports of weight LOSS this week!!!

Congrats to us all!!!

And lets keep up the fantastic work!!

Ani, I reckon 2.3kgs proves you have made it over the plateau!!! Here's hoping it is all down hill from here for you! :carrot:

PerthChick 02-19-2007 12:46 AM

Hey Vonni, I think you're getting Reductil confused with Xenical. Xenical is the one that supposedly removes about 30% of the fat you ingest – and it has some pretty gross effects on people who don't cut back on the fat in their diet :). Reductil works on the brain, affecting seretonin and something else to suppress your urge to eat.

Yes I've registered with Fitday.com and I find it reasonably useful. I don't use it all the time, but just to tweak my daily food intake. I'm pretty good at writing down calories, and have changed some of my meals because the mix of carbs/protein/fat/fibre wasn't right.

For example, if I were to eat breakfast outdoors I'd have to fight the birds off I reckon because I put so many different seeds and things in with my cereal :). I'm fairly happy with my food balance at the moment and will keep doing what I do until I lose another 5 to 10kg. Then it might be time to reduce my daily calorie intake.

I bought a resistance band today. I decided that my legs and abs are getting plenty of work, but my upper body is doing nothing. That is all about to change! I've walked for two hours today (unintentionally) and already drunk 2.4 litres of water.

Hey Lindor I was thinking about your metabolism - don't ask me why, but it just popped into my head today. Someone suggested to me that eating 5 small meals a day is a really good way to boost your metabolism. Don't know if that would be useful, but I thought I would mention it.

OK - must do some work.

:)
Ani

pacman12 02-19-2007 02:36 AM

Congrats everyone on the great losses!!! I am definitely sticking with Core for a few weeks, it's very liberating to eat when you're hungry and not count points (although I must admit I add them up in my head, more because I'm not sure I'm eating ENOUGH with all the fruit and veggies!!).

Another great site that is more geared towards Aussies is calorieking.com.au - think it's a one-off payment of about $45.

I too am jealous of fancy scales (I think mine are meant to measure fat %, but they are a few years old and I have no way to work them) - so I ordered a fancy schmancy pair of scales that work out both body fat % and hydration %!! So I'll know if I'm drinking enough water!

I definitely can tell that my body is changing, although I hope it's not all in my head - I keep looking down at my thighs and thinking how toned they are getting, and I've even noticed HIP BONES! Haha... too much time on my hands!!

7senuf, I also took duromine about 5 years ago, lost around 30kg, to my lowest adult weight (69kg). However the dry mouth, emotional instability (angry, snappish, moody) and racing heart aren't worth it. Plus, I just put it back on when I stopped them.

The older I get, the more I realise that the only way to lose weight permanently is just to eat healthy and exercise (unfortunately!). There is no magic pill.

Elerine 02-19-2007 03:01 AM

Hey girls

wow! You are all doing really well! I wish I knew what the **** my body is doing. I cant see any differences, but one skirt seems looser...it probably just needs a wash!

I have never taken any pills before, although at one stage I did try to live on nothing but little chewy things from the supermarket that were meant to curb your appetite. Tht didn't last long - I was always a big eater!

I have made the decision to amp up my protein intake. The book I bought seems to advocate lots of protein. I know it keeps you fuller for longer, and its good for building muscle. I didn't know protein shakes were so grimy-feeling in your mouth!!!

I worked this morning 7-10, then I had that big event at uni to run. It went really really really well! I'm proud of myself too - bf and I went to the movies this arvo, and I didn't have any coke, and only maybe 3 small handfuls of popcorn, instead of half the mega-bucket!! I think I am becoming more aware of what I am stuffing in my mouth!

Looks like there is a sale on on thursday, scaley-scales here I come. (How do they measure body fat and hydration? My head doesn't know, so how will my feet tell the scale??? lol!)

Kylie

plumptobump 02-19-2007 03:09 AM

Evening ladies,

Can you believe Im here TWICE in one day?!? :D

Ani, WOW with the measurements! Like Lindor said, I think you've finally gotten over that stupid plateau and are on your way down, down, down...Ok, my 21-day challenge starts tomorrow. Walking 30mins/5 days a week and 3l of water a day.

Cite, am so happy you have been able to find some good info about chromium! I am currently on about 1000mcg, but even 400mcg is found to have a significant impact. Yes, you can get it from the health food shop, or the chemist, and even from Woolies I think. It might take a while to notice a difference, but once you do....lets just say I fight cravings now until my first chromium pill of the day. Its brilliant!

7senuf, to be honest, dh is a foot taller than I am and is a MUCH faster walker and believe me when I say I get annoyed when walking with him as hes always a few paces in front. BUT, I find Im not motivated enough to make sure that I do it on my own, so I need him to make sure I get up early enough in the mornings, make me get dressed, and set the pace (albeit way too fast). Maybe if I get him pushing the pram it will slow him down a little..haha. My dh got me that book for Valentines Day (he prefaced it by saying it wasnt a hint, but was something that would help me be less stressed about cleaning)!!! :D Its quite interesting and theres some good little tidbits, but shes pretty full-on with stuff. I cant imagine airing out my sheets everyday by taking them off the bed...but, thats just me...

Ani, where did you get your resistance band and how much was it, if you dont mind me asking??? Ive been thinking of getting one for quite a while, so any info would be great! And you're right about eating small, more frequent meals a day - it keeps your blood sugar stable and supports your metabolism SO much better.

Augigi, thought I would let you know that calorieking.com is now FREE! Not sure why they changed it, but its good news for us cheapskates out there!

Hi Kylie and the rest of you superslimmers!! Have a great night!

xxx

PerthChick 02-19-2007 07:50 AM

Hey Kylie, what was the event you had to run at Uni?

Britt I got the resistance band from Rebel Sport. It cost $19.99 with an exercise booklet. I did a workout with it tonight and was really surprised by how hard it is - I mainly concentrated on my arms and shoulders, but they were burning before I was finished :). All good though.

I've had another good day - probably ate 100 calories more than I was planning to, but I don't care. It was all healthy food, and considering I walked 2 hours AND managed 3 litres of water, I don't think I'm gonna beat myself up for it.

:)
Ani

7senuf 02-19-2007 07:45 PM

Thanks heaps for the calorie king info. I joined up last night. Hopefully be a bit easier to use. I will continue with fitday also though until i get used to the calorie king.

Ani, sounds like the resistance band works a treat. I might look into it also, cause the only upper body workout I get is hanging out the clothes and picking up baby.

I jumped on the scales this morn just because and I've lost another 500g :)

Does anyone know how much weight gain there is during Georges visit? I think you guys call him TOM!

Cheers
Vonni

PerthChick 02-19-2007 09:34 PM

I have to share something that just happened, and I'll preface it by saying that I was already in a very, very bad mood.

I went to buy petrol a liitle while ago, and when I went in to pay, all went well… until I headed back out the door, and then the bloke at the cash register yelled out: "Don't you want some chocolate?" with a very smug smirk on his face. The implication was clear… he didn't ask any of the other 10 people in the shop who were clearly smaller than me.

I am, at this very moment, on hold to someone called Sue in BPs head office. If he thinks he's getting away with that he's got another think coming. Do I pay money to be insulted, and for someone to try and humiliate me in front of other people? Nope!

Sorry for the rant. I just thought it wiser to report him than hit him in the head with something sharp and pointy.

I also knew that if I opened my mouth in the service station he would cop it in the neck for everything else I'm angry about today - and that wouldn't be fair!

Lindor 02-19-2007 11:07 PM

Ani, I would have bought 12 of the biggest blocks of chocolate they had and shoved it up the butt of that arrogant, cruel, pr*ck!!!

How rude!!!!

Did you get anywhere with head office? I'd like, at the very least, to see an apology from him...but if it was me I'd probably never enter that place again!

My blood is boiling from just reading what you went through!

Don't let the words this selfish jerk set you back though. You have come so far and are doing so well. You did not deserve that...nobody does!

And what else is going on that has made today such a bad day? :hug:

PerthChick 02-19-2007 11:10 PM

I'm about to head down there and see if I can get a business card or something, because Head Office are telling me that service station closed down two years ago!

Will let you know more when I get back - if I'm not bloody arrested.

Elerine 02-20-2007 12:40 AM

Hey Ani - hope everything worked out with the BP loser. Gah, I want to march down there and smack him myself! What a tool.

Our Uni's Division of Business is running O Week at our Uni, because we don't have a Students Assoc. any more (thankyou VSU). They gave AIESEC (the student org I'm in) $2000 to run an event catering for 300 new students, the only guidelines being 'make it interactive' and 'cater for different food requirements'. So we organised food from all these different places, eg chinese, nandos chicken, subway and aroma cafe, to really give it an international feel, seeing as we are an international organisation. Anyway, they interacted, they ate, they drank, and everything went as planned. (and we got some signups for AIESEC -woo! Its major recruitment time now!)

What exactly -is- a resistance band?

I know this will probably bore you guys, but I think I'm going to post what I eat up here everyday. That keeps me accountable (even though you don't have to read it!). It's Pancake Day, so bf and I met in the city for lunch. I chose the ham steak and pineapple instead of chocolate pancakes with chocolate fudge! yay for me!

So
Breakie: Apple (running late)
Lunch: 2 pancakes, hamsteak, pineapple ring, egg, water
Arvo snack: yoghurt and protein PLUS cereal (making up for brekkie!) 1.25l H2O
Dinner: probably carrot sticks with cottage cheese (come on payday!)


Britt, good luck with the challenge! And Well Done Vonni for the 500g! That's another margarine tub gone!!!


Cool, see you all tomorrow!

Kylie

PerthChick 02-20-2007 01:15 AM

Who knows what will happen? I do know that I will never spend another cent at that petrol station! At least Head Office had the good grace to say they were very embarrassed and would follow the matter up. I had to walk out Lindor, or I would have upended the whole confectionery shelf … I do have a temper :mad:.

I was in a filthy mood anyway because it's been one of those days where lots of little things have gone wrong. The kettle went on strike, as did the vacuum cleaner – and Telstra told me that my modem is stuffed, so I have to wait for a new one before I can have a reliable connection to the web again. And I'm having one of those cash flow problems that are endemic to the self-employed and small businesses, so my rent and phone bill are overdue. And the cats are throwing up on the carpet.

I know everyone has those days. They are all minor things (well except for being broke) but when they all happen at once it's really annoying. So when the smoke alarm started to emit single beeps about an hour ago, to tell me the battery was low, I had a really irrational desire to shoot it!!!

And I won't even tell you about this person who has ripped me off for $700, and how I learned today they've left the country.

The challenge for me is to not get enmeshed in all these things, and to not feel like punishing myself with food. At the moment I am craving something really naughty and fattening – but I'm having coffee instead.

Don't worry Lindor, I'm not going to allow a smug pr!ck and a few misbehaving domestic appliances to derail me from my weight loss journey. This is a good lesson for me to learn about emotional eating and all that stuff.

Kylie I think it's a good idea for you to post your food here. Are you up for feedback about it, or do you just want to keep yourself accountable?

A resistance band is like a long bit of plastic. I don't really know how to describe it, except that it's 2 metres long and about 10cm wide. It's very thin, but you use it to do resistance exercises. You can strengthen most areas of your body with it, and I'm using it for my arms, shoulders and back muscles. Even though you wouldn't think that a bit of plastic could give you a decent workout, I have sore arms this morning from (what I thought was) fairly gentle exercises.

OK - might go for a walk and try to burn some of this anger off :).

Lindor 02-20-2007 03:17 AM

Ani, truth be known, if that guy had said that to me I'd have probably chuckled at him before walking out and cursing him under my breath! And I really don't think I'd have had the courage to take it to head office. I'd have just vowed never to set foot in the place again!

I have been known to be rather aggressive in my anger too - my brother has had the broken bones to prove it! Ok give me some credit, I was 10 or 11yrs old when I did that and I have amazing control over my temper now :lol:

And after hearing of the rest of your day, I have decided my lowered mood is nothing. I am just a tad irked that I have been included in a work meeting tomorrow that is taking me some 200+kms to the next town to sit in a room for four hours with about 30 others who I hardly know and will eventually end up in a restaurant for lunch!!! I was hoping I would get away with saying "Oops I forgot about it" on Thursday. But...I was reminded of it yesterday.

I am pleased though, that you have taken the positive end of todays events and making it a lesson to understand your emotional eating habits.

Kylie, I am always interested to see what others are eating through their weight loss, so I can't see me getting bored. Instead I might get ideas! In the last few weeks I have learned and tried a few knew things in my diet. Maybe it shows my lack of imagination and creativity, but I was eating the same stuff day in and day out, now I have included wraps and pizzas (Ani's recipes from a few weeks ago)!

Alright gotta go wash something for tomorrow! :mad:

I hope what is left of the day only gets better for you Ani ;)

plumptobump 02-20-2007 04:04 AM

OMG Ani!! What a jerk to put it nicely!!! I dont know what I would have done...probably ignored it, then feel sick to my stomach while crying in my car. Ive seen people look, point and laugh at me in public places like the mall, but never had someone say something so horrible to my face (that I havent blocked from my memory..haha). I really hope head office serves justice....And the rest of your day...when it rains, it pours and I know the kind of day you've had....just go outside, scream at the top of your lungs for a good 30 seconds, then go back inside and have a cup of tea. Helps me from time to time...{{hugs}}

Lindor, sorry you have to go to your meeting tomorrow....hope it turns out to be a good day for you...

Nothing new to report here. Weigh-in tomorrow...am a little nervous, but I dont know why. Despite my wonderful intentions of starting the challenge today, it just didnt happen...and I wont get it started tonight either. I have a stupid house inspection from our rental agency on behalf of the owner tomorrow morning, which means scrubbing floorboards and cleaning the showers. I should do these things on a regular basis, but having a very active toddler doesnt really seem to help with the day to day activities. Needless to say, I am getting a good workout getting everything tidied and vacuumed, etc...but I wont be hopping on the treadmill. I will however try and squeeze another 1litre of water in before I go to bed...Ive already done my normal 2l. Hope you girls have a good night and will "see" you all tomorrow! :)

Britt
xxxx

PerthChick 02-20-2007 04:37 AM

Lindor and Britt, I think it's the fact that 99% of women would react like you that made me speak out. Most women don't say anything, but if my complaint stops ONE woman from being embarrassed or humiliated by this moron, then it's worth it.

I'm pretty robust, and have a high pain threshold (both physically and emotionally) - but if he'd said that to a woman who is emotionally fragile, she would have been devastated. I was merely angry and wanted to do something about it - which I did. I realised, reading back what I wrote, that I said it was a BP. It wasn't - it was Shell, and now I have a dilemma.

I shop at Coles because it's just around the corner, but Coles owns Shell. Grrr… but since I promised I would never give another dollar to the company, I guess I'll have to go to Woolies :)

Ah well - better day tomorrow!

Good luck with your rent inspection Britt. I have them every three months and find them mildly annoying - but at least the house gets a really good clean!

Lindor can't you chuck a sickie? :D

7senuf 02-20-2007 05:04 AM

Oh gosh Ani thats so horrible & mean. :hug: I hate rude people & what he said to you was the ultimate. My blood's boiling thinking about it. Be prepared though that he will use the excuse he was trying to upsell, or bring to your attention a promotion they have going (they usually do have choc or drink promos happening).

But as Lindor said, at least something good can come of it with you resisting the urge for emotional eating. Thats a big positive. Doesn't excuse his pisspoor attitude though.

I have a friend who was humiliated in the hospital when she was waiting to get her tummy tumours checked via cat scan. She was dressed in the robe and in the waiting room sitting in her wheelchair and the nurse called her name, then looked at her and said, "Oh you won't fit on the table."

People are so mean, it makes me wonder how they get on in life.

OMG Lindor, did you seriously break your brothers bones? LMAO. You're naughty! And good luck with meeting (if you don't chuck that sickie)

Good luck with weigh in and inspection Britt.

On a brighter note........ I booked my bubba in to clinic as I was concerned she wasn't crawling at 10mths. But she decided today was the day :D And does she go or what lol.

Kylie whats AIESEC?

Gotta run. The critters are hassling me for dessert. I'm making grilled stonefruits with caramelised masala sauce and low carb ice cream MMMMM

Cheers
Vonni


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