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3/31/11 - 208lbs
4/7/11 - 203.5lbs 4/14/11 - 200.8lbs Finally fitting into my size 14 jeans again! |
Okay -- subsiding again. I had a very off/on week last week, so I'm happy just to be even .2 lower than my previous low this year. All systems GO now! :cb: :cb:
1/8/11: 231 1/15/11: 229 1/28/11: 229 2/5/11: 228 2/12/11: 227 2/17/11: 227 2/28/11:228 3/7/11: 230 3/14/11: 229.5 3/24/11: 228 4/4/11: 225.8 4/11/11: 227.8 4/18/11: 225.6 Anagram, good stuff! That's your lowest recorded this year, eh? Gwen, hang in there! The Gabriel Method guy says that he used that affirmation/visualization method to lose a ton of weight. :chin: ArEyBee :welcome: Natamars, bet you'll have that gone this week! Hormones are the :devil: Staci, congrats on the 2 off! And congrats on your nice numbers, steady losses week after week. :cp: :cp: Let's make this a good one! |
1/4/11 210
1/11/11 208 1/18/11 205 1/25/11 204 2/1/11 205 (muscles retaining water from weight training?) 2/8/11 203 2/11/11 201 Onderland here I come! 2/15/11 205 2/22/11 203 3/1/11 199 3/8/11 198 YAY! (196 yesterday) 3/15/11 196 (194 yesterday) 3/29/11 195 (194 on 4/1) 4/5/11 195 4/12/11 195 4/19/11 193 (doing a happy dance!) It broke! Tracking every bite, limited carbs, upped protein and upped cardio to over 45 minutes. I've skipped on the weights because the cardio took up all my allotted time. Joyful (Joyfuls journey) suggested that it takes over 30 minutes of cardio to START burning fat. I took her advice seriously and YAY! I will keep this up. Yay Arabella for lowest this year!!! Staci: Way to go! You'll be under 2 by Memorial day or before! Nadamar: Sorry about the PMS - but it looks like next week you'll see 132! Anagram: Keep going girl! It's going down! ArEBee: You're cooking! |
Yay! Congrats on the nice loss, Gwen! If you'd like to get in your weights and cardio at the same time, circuit training is great.
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1/11/11: 231.0
1/18/11: 230.2 1/25/11: 230.6 2/01/11: 227.8 2/08/11: 224.2 2/15/11: 225.6 2/22/11: 222.6 3/1/11: 219.4 3/8/11: 220.0 3/21/11: 222.2 3/29/11: 218.2 4/5/11: 215.2 4/12/11: 213.2 4/19/11: 212.8 Closer and closer to Onederland!! |
4/20/11-128.2!!
hoping to hit 120 by 6/1/11 |
1/11/11 198.6
1/18/11 197.8 1/25/11 198. 2/1/11 201.2 2/8/11 197.6 2/15/11 197.4 2/22/11 197.4 3/1/ 199.6 3/8 197.8 3/15 198.6 3/22 200.6 3/29 198.6 4/5 199.6 4/12 197.4 4.19 198.6 right where I was 3 months ago. Hmmmm..... |
I'm starting out new in this thread...
1/3/11 - 212 4/21/11 - 208 |
20 Mar 11 - 381
26 Mar 11 - 373 (-8) 2 Apr 11 - 371 (-2) 9 Apr 11 - 368.5 (-2.5) 16 Apr 11 - 368.5 (0) 23 Apr 11 - 362 (-6.5) |
Fly-by report. I had a good week but only resulted in .6 off. Ah well, next week WI should make up for it.
1/8/11: 231 1/15/11: 229 1/28/11: 229 2/5/11: 228 2/12/11: 227 2/17/11: 227 2/28/11:228 3/7/11: 230 3/14/11: 229.5 3/24/11: 228 4/4/11: 225.8 4/11/11: 227.8 4/18/11: 225.6 4/23/11: 225 Let's make this a good one! |
Fly-by report. I had a good week but only resulted in .6 off. Ah well, next week WI should make up for it.
1/8/11: 231 1/15/11: 229 1/28/11: 229 2/5/11: 228 2/12/11: 227 2/17/11: 227 2/28/11:228 3/7/11: 230 3/14/11: 229.5 3/24/11: 228 4/4/11: 225.8 4/11/11: 227.8 4/18/11: 225.6 4/23/11: 225 Let's make this a good one! |
1/4/11 210
1/11/11 208 1/18/11 205 1/25/11 204 2/1/11 205 (muscles retaining water from weight training?) 2/8/11 203 2/11/11 201 Onderland here I come! 2/15/11 205 2/22/11 203 3/1/11 199 3/8/11 198 YAY! (196 yesterday) 3/15/11 196 (194 yesterday) 3/29/11 195 (194 on 4/1) 4/5/11 195 4/12/11 195 4/19/11 193 (doing a happy dance!) 4/26/11 195 - yup Apparently I have found the secret to maintaining 195. :?: |
1/7: 141
1/14: 140.2 1/21: 139.2 1/28: 138 2/4: 136.6 2/11: 137.2 2/14: 136.2 2/18: 134.4 woo-hoo!!! 2/25: 137.0 3/4: 135.2 3/11: 137.4 3/25: 137.2 4/1: 135.8 4/8: 134.6 4/15: 135.4 PMS 4/29: 138.0 Well, I didn't think it was possible to gain 5 lbs. in a week, but apaprently it is! Not sure what happened, I was off plan but certainly didn't go crazy. I figured some of it was water from some Chinese food, and I'm down a few from my weigh-in on Sunday. Back on plan with calorie-counting since Monday and exercise is good. Running my 5K tomorrow. Gwen, you're still 15 lbs. down from the first of the year, which is a solid lb/week. Awesome! Arabella, looking forward to seeing your next weigh-in! Lani, fantastic loss this week!!! Cat, welcome! Anagram, I'm in the same boat! This is tough. Born, welcome! Staci, you've had such great, consistent losses - wtg! |
I def. didn't have enough protein this week, in fact I don't think I ate enough of anything - I'll make an effort over the next week to increase my caloric load.
20 Mar 11 - 381 26 Mar 11 - 373 (-8) 2 Apr 11 - 371 (-2) 9 Apr 11 - 368.5 (-2.5) 16 Apr 11 - 368.5 (0) 23 Apr 11 - 362 (-6.5) 30 Apr 11 - 361 (-1) Natamars - I'm sure most of that gain is water. It sounds like you're back on track though, good luck for next weeks weigh in :) Gwen - Stalls are so frustrating, I'm sending good vibes your way. Arabella - well the good news is you're still losing, but I know it's hard sometimes to see a small number when you've been working hard all week. |
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I was hoping for more but will accept 1.4 (really, what are my options?)
1/8/11: 231 1/15/11: 229 1/28/11: 229 2/5/11: 228 2/12/11: 227 2/17/11: 227 2/28/11:228 3/7/11: 230 3/14/11: 229.5 3/24/11: 228 4/4/11: 225.8 4/11/11: 227.8 4/18/11: 225.6 4/23/11: 225 5/2/11: 223.6 |
1/4/11 - 210
1/11/11 - 208 1/18/11 - 205 1/25/11 - 204 2/1/11 - 205 (muscles retaining water from weight training?) 2/8/11 - 203 2/11/11 - 201 Onderland here I come! 2/15/11 - 205 2/22/11 - 203 3/1/11 - 199 3/8/11 - 198 YAY! (196 yesterday) 3/15/11 - 196 (194 yesterday) 3/29/11 - 195 (194 on 4/1) 4/5/11 - 195 4/12/11 - 195 4/19/11 - 193 (doing a happy dance!) 4/26/11 - 195 - yup 5/3/11 - 193 More! I want MORE! :tantrum: So, I spent the entire month of April trying to bust through 195. My goal for May is to lose at least 8 lbs - aiming for 180 though. 13 lbs in a month doesn't seem unreasonable, but I know that 8 is realistic. I've added whey protein shakes for muscle recovery and fat loss - hoping this will speed up the losing. Has anyone tried this? Anagram - Have you tried logging in your food? I go back to about.com /caloriecount every now and then to check where I'm at with calories. And I've added more cardio - at least 40 minutes every other day minimum, shooting for daily. That finally broke the plateau for me. Research whey protein for weight loss - this is supposed to help. (I've put a good article on my blog.) Staci - WooHoo! Under 210 is great! You'll be in onederland soon! Natamars - I expect that you'll be down to 132 at the end of May. I would LOVE to see 132 on the scale - I'm sure you look fantastic! Lani - thanks for the good vibes! 20 lbs in one month is absolutely amazing! How are you doing this? Arabella - YAY! You've broke through that plateau! We should see some great losses this month! New Chicks - :welcome2: |
1/11/11 198.6
1/18/11 197.8 1/25/11 198. 2/1/11 201.2 2/8/11 197.6 2/15/11 197.4 2/22/11 197.4 3/1/ 199.6 3/8 197.8 3/15 198.6 3/22 200.6 3/29 198.6 4/5 199.6 4/12 197.4 4.19 198.6 4/25 198.6 5/3 196.6 |
3/31/11 - 208lbs
4/7/11 - 203.5lbs 4/14/11 - 200.8lbs 4/21/11 - 198.3lbs 4/28/11 - 196.8lbs 5/5/11 - posting that later on... just hadn't updated in a bit. Finally making it back into Onederland, it's been a couple years since I've secured my place here. I'm making a vow to myself to never allow the 200s to appear on my scale again. It's all gone from here! Gwen You're doing so great! Keep up your hard work, 2lbs in one week is PHENOMENAL this far in the game. :) Arabella I'm the same as you, you almost get upset at the scale because of all your hard work and only 1lb lost, but keep in mind that's a WHOLE POUND. Imagine taping a pound of butter to your arms and thighs, that's what your body lost in a week. Keep it up! staci Way to go on the loss this week! kneed2lose Of course you're welcome here! I'm new as well, but we're all in this together. Gotta support everyone who makes an effort! :D |
1/7: 141
1/14: 140.2 1/21: 139.2 1/28: 138 2/4: 136.6 2/11: 137.2 2/14: 136.2 2/18: 134.4 woo-hoo!!! 2/25: 137.0 3/4: 135.2 3/11: 137.4 3/25: 137.2 4/1: 135.8 4/8: 134.6 4/15: 135.4 PMS 4/29: 138.0 5/6: 134.8 Looks like it wasn't a true gain, but it took over a week to get rid of the water from excess carbs and salt. Interesting. Really hoping to hit a new low for the year next week. Did my first 5K last weekend and doing another this weekend. ArEyBee, YAY for staying in onederland! kneed, welcome! anagram, NICE!! gwen, you've lost 17 lbs. this year. That's fantastic! arabella, you're having some nice steady losses - wtg! staci, awesome loss! lani, 20 lbs. this spring - wow! |
3/31/11 - 208lbs
4/7/11 - 203.5lbs 4/14/11 - 200.8lbs 4/21/11 - 198.3lbs 4/28/11 - 196.8lbs 5/6/11 - 193.8lbs So I realize 3lbs in just over a week this far along seems a bit drastic. I'm slowly changing my weekly weigh-in day from Thursdays to Saturdays. For some reason I had originally picked Thursday evenings after work for my weigh-in time. This is when I still have all that food from breakfast/lunch and any water retention going on from throughout the day weighing me down. I realized what a terrible idea an evening weigh-in was just yesterday. I hopped on the scale after eating platefuls of Tex-Mex potluck at work for Cinco de Mayo and my weight had stalled all week (Still had me reading at 196.8lbs). I knew it wasn't right; so this morning I went in to the gym after having a light breakfast and I was at 193.8lbs. I know I did not lose 3lbs overnight if it was not excess food/water retention in my body. So moral of the story is, don't weigh yourself after a long day of indulgent/carefree eating. Saturdays will be the best day for me to get the weigh-in done because I'm always at the gym first thing on that day. natamars Great job on the loss! I can only imagine what you're going through so close to your goal weight. I'm both loving the idea and dreading when I get there because I'm sure I'll be bouncing all over the place and driving myself crazy! Good luck on your 5k this weekend! |
Up .6 this week, despite a very good week. I could have been more perfect but was pretty darned good.
However, I did start hot yoga last Monday and supposedly a lot of people gain wait at the first in acclimatization to the heat. Also, any time I do anything that stresses my muscles in a new way -- and this sure qualifies! -- my muscles retain water. Expecting a good loss next week, though, for sure. 1/8/11: 231 1/15/11: 229 1/28/11: 229 2/5/11: 228 2/12/11: 227 2/17/11: 227 2/28/11:228 3/7/11: 230 3/14/11: 229.5 3/24/11: 228 4/4/11: 225.8 4/11/11: 227.8 4/18/11: 225.6 4/23/11: 225 5/2/11: 223.6 5/9/11: 224.2 Natamars, congrats on the nice loss and the 5k! :woohoo: ArEyBee, thanks for the visual -- yes, a pound of butter is sizeable, isn't it. I will be glad for each one gone! I've actually got a Tanita scale that measures water, muscle, fat, etc. Now would be a good time for me to start tracking that stuff again. Gwen, yup, this month we're going to make some serious progress. :yes: Kneed2lose :welcome: Anagram, there's your lowest yet -- HUZZAH! Lani, good idea to have a plan for how many calories/points/whatever you should have. Staci, how's it going? K, this doesn't precisely qualify as work, so I'd better get to it. Let's kick some behind this week, women! |
I'm new here (this is my first post) and I really want a weekly weigh-in to keep me accountable. I just started my 'program' last week on Tuesday, so I'll pick Tuesdays for my weigh-ins:
5/3/11: 142 My goal is 130, but I would settle for 135 or less if I can attain it and MAINTAIN it. This gets harder the older I get. =) |
I'm new to this thread, and feel that I really need to do something as I haven't lost weight, and feel like I need to be kept accountable. So here's what I have so far from this year:
1/28/11: 152.0 2/05/11: 150.5 2/12/11: 153.5 2/17/11: 151.5 2/28/11: 151.0 3/07/11: 152.0 3/14/11: 151.0 3/24/11: 150.0 4/04/11: 151.5 4/11/11: 151.5 4/18/11: 154.5 4/25/11: 156.5 5/02/11: 154.0 5/09/11: 155.0 As you can see, it hasn't been a good year for me. I have not been in the 150's for this long in my whole life. I really need to step up the workouts, and stay uner 1200 cals. Good luck to all. Thanks in advance for the encouragement. :) |
1/4/11 - 210
1/11/11 - 208 1/18/11 - 205 1/25/11 - 204 2/1/11 - 205 (muscles retaining water from weight training?) 2/8/11 - 203 2/11/11 - 201 Onderland here I come! 2/15/11 - 205 2/22/11 - 203 3/1/11 - 199 3/8/11 - 198 YAY! (196 yesterday) 3/15/11 - 196 (194 yesterday) 3/29/11 - 195 (194 on 4/1) 4/5/11 - 195 4/12/11 - 195 4/19/11 - 193 (doing a happy dance!) 4/26/11 - 195 - yup 5/3/11 - 193 More! I want MORE! 5/10/11 - 192 - there it is!:carrot:YAY!!!!! I've been eating clean - mostly. I ordered The Eat Clean Diet Recharged - so far it makes perfect sense, and there are shopping lists, recipes, etc. Everything sounds great, eat a lot (clean foods only) no calorie counting, some exercise... basically eat ONLY clean foods and you're supposed to lose about 3 lbs a week... we shall see. Here's a link to the website - http://www.eatcleandiet.com/ We're all gonna do it!!! THIS is our year to finally lose it and learn how to KEEP IT OFF. Everyone stay the course - don't give up!! Plateau's are temporary if we eat right through them (get it?) |
05/03/11: 142
05/10/11: 141 Down 1 pound. At least it's less than last week. If we just keep trying, we're sure to win this 'losing' war. =) |
1/7: 141
1/14: 140.2 1/21: 139.2 1/28: 138 2/4: 136.6 2/11: 137.2 2/14: 136.2 2/18: 134.4 woo-hoo!!! 2/25: 137.0 3/4: 135.2 3/11: 137.4 3/25: 137.2 4/1: 135.8 4/8: 134.6 4/15: 135.4 PMS 4/29: 138.0 5/6: 134.8 5/13: 134.2 Wow I worked hard for that .6!! Hoping once TOM is fully gone I might see a bit more - got my tightest jeans on today without lying down. Welcome to the newbies on the thread! |
3/31/11 - 208lbs
4/7/11 - 203.5lbs 4/14/11 - 200.8lbs 4/21/11 - 198.3lbs 4/28/11 - 196.8lbs 5/6/11 - 193.8lbs 5/14/11 - 188lbs (-5.8lbs) Um... I don't even know how that's possible. I was on my period last week, so I guess it's possible that I was retaining some water weight when I weighed in last week. I don't know. I'm in awe... |
Oh my gosh -- a nice solid 2.8 loss! :carrot: :carrot: Why is it always such a surprise to me that when I do what I need to do I lose weight? I was suddenly struck -- like a brick to the head -- with the full realization that if I force myself to only eat at the table when I'm alone, just that ONE thing, and just focus on the food, I'm pretty much guaranteed to lose weight. I knew it, but was just in denial. And even once I fully realized it I tried to weasel out of committing to it. That's the power of addictive behaviour, huh. Trying to work out exceptions to the rule, just this once. So anyway, between that and hot yoga... I finally had a good loss. Here we go! 1/8/11: 231 1/15/11: 229 1/28/11: 229 2/5/11: 228 2/12/11: 227 2/17/11: 227 2/28/11:228 3/7/11: 230 3/14/11: 229.5 3/24/11: 228 4/4/11: 225.8 4/11/11: 227.8 4/18/11: 225.6 4/23/11: 225 5/2/11: 223.6 5/9/11: 224.2 5/16/11: 221.4 ArEyBee, that's FANTASTIC!!! Do tell us what you're doing for such fabulous results. :hyper: Natamars, bet you'll have an extra good WI this week. It never seems to be an even path, does it. Jacymacy, truer words were ne'er spoke -- as long as we make progress and head in the right direction, we'll get there. :yes: A pound off is good, as ArEyBee pointed out: Think of a pound of butter -- it's a big chunk. Gwen, you're doing fantastic -- almost 20 off this year! :woohoo: Beila, good for you weighing in and tracking so consistently! Accountability can make that little difference that gets us going. :yes: Ok, wimmen, let us rock the scale this week! :cb: :cb: |
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1/4/11 - 210 1/11/11 - 208 1/18/11 - 205 1/25/11 - 204 2/1/11 - 205 (muscles retaining water from weight training?) 2/8/11 - 203 2/11/11 - 201 Onderland here I come! 2/15/11 - 205 2/22/11 - 203 3/1/11 - 199 3/8/11 - 198 YAY! (196 yesterday) 3/15/11 - 196 (194 yesterday) 3/29/11 - 195 (194 on 4/1) 4/5/11 - 195 4/12/11 - 195 4/19/11 - 193 (doing a happy dance!) 4/26/11 - 195 - yup 5/3/11 - 193 More! I want MORE! 5/10/11 - 192 - there it is!YAY!!!!! 5/17/11 - 194...damn I don't know what is going on with my body! It must be in rebellion. With all this clean eating and HIIT exercising, why isn't the weight falling off? Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! |
Gwen, maybe it's the HIIT? I know whenever I start anything new that stresses my muscles in a different way, my muscles hold water. And I can tell almost immediately. Frustrating, though, when you're working so hard and the scales don't show it. Next week you'll have a payoff, I bet!
Anyway, I'm sure that HIIT will be worth it. I'm going to start some, short and intense, after I'm up to speed on hot yoga. |
1/11/11 198.6
1/18/11 197.8 1/25/11 198. 2/1/11 201.2 2/8/11 197.6 2/15/11 197.4 2/22/11 197.4 3/1/ 199.6 3/8 197.8 3/15 198.6 3/22 200.6 3/29 198.6 4/5 199.6 4/12 197.4 4.19 198.6 4/25 198.6 5/3 196.6 5/10 199.6 5/17 197.4 |
Well, I don't understand this. up 2 down 2, up 3 down 1... etc. etc. Why can't I get out of the 190's? Anagam too... what are we doing wrong? Is there a 190's devil out there keeping our weight from busting through?:devil:
Look at AyErBee and Arabella - such steady weight loss. Amazing. I want that so badly. So, I read some of AyErBee's blog - great writing by the way - and see she's on WW plan. Hmmmmm. Points. I'd like to know how points relate to calories. |
I was going to do Tuesday weigh-ins but I am going to switch to Fridays - just seems easier to me. But today I weighed in at 141, same as last Tuesday. Here's hoping a couple more days on plan will help for Friday's OFFICIAL weigh-in.
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1/7: 141
1/14: 140.2 1/21: 139.2 1/28: 138 2/4: 136.6 2/11: 137.2 2/14: 136.2 2/18: 134.4 woo-hoo!!! 2/25: 137.0 3/4: 135.2 3/11: 137.4 3/25: 137.2 4/1: 135.8 4/8: 134.6 4/15: 135.4 PMS 4/29: 138.0 5/6: 134.8 5/13: 134.2 5/20: 132.8 New low this year! 25 straight days of counting every calorie, not eating any "outside" food, and getting in 5 workouts a week is paying off. Gwen, I have a bunch of weights I think of as set points that are very hard to get under. That's when I usually get frustrated and sloppy and gain. Stick with it, you'll get there! Arabella, awesome weigh-in! ArEyBee, that is AMAZING! That's like a week 1 loss! |
05/03/11: 142
05/10/11: 141 05/20/11: 142 Maybe I should have stuck with Tuesday weigh-ins. Oh well, Fridays just make more sense to me. |
Week 1
01/04/11 - 210 02/01/11 - 205 03/01/11 - 199 04/05/11 - 195 05/03/11 - 193 Week 2 01/11/11 - 208 02/08/11 - 203 03/08/11 - 198 04/12/11 - 195 05/10/11 - 192 Week 3 01/18/11 - 205 02/15/11 - 205 03/15/11 - 196 04/19/11 - 193 05/17/11 - 194 Week 4 01/25/11 - 204 02/22/11 - 203 03/29/11 - 195 04/26/11 - 195 05/23/11 - 193 Wow I feel much better after grouping my weekly weigh-ins! Looking down each of the weekly groups you'd think we were showing the weight of 4 different women - each losing consistently. Instead, this is just ME bouncing around each week. If you looked at every DAY the bouncing is even greater - this week alone I was everywhere from 192 to 197! But... If I only consider week 1 as my weigh in results, I can see that I've lost consistently for each month. Too slow - but consistent. |
And a little bounce up. Down big next week. :yes: I had a good week but that seems to be the way she goes.
1/8/11: 231 1/15/11: 229 1/28/11: 229 2/5/11: 228 2/12/11: 227 2/17/11: 227 2/28/11:228 3/7/11: 230 3/14/11: 229.5 3/24/11: 228 4/4/11: 225.8 4/11/11: 227.8 4/18/11: 225.6 4/23/11: 225 5/2/11: 223.6 5/9/11: 224.2 5/16/11: 221.4 5/23/11: 222.6 |
1/7: 141
1/14: 140.2 1/21: 139.2 1/28: 138 2/4: 136.6 2/11: 137.2 2/14: 136.2 2/18: 134.4 woo-hoo!!! 2/25: 137.0 3/4: 135.2 3/11: 137.4 3/25: 137.2 4/1: 135.8 4/8: 134.6 4/15: 135.4 PMS 4/29: 138.0 5/6: 134.8 5/13: 134.2 5/20: 132.8 5/27: 131.4 arabella, you'll be down next week - sometimes the scale makes no sense. gwen, you are down 17 for the year - fantastic! Have a great weekend! |
3/31/11 - 208lbs
4/7/11 - 203.5lbs 4/14/11 - 200.8lbs 4/21/11 - 198.3lbs 4/28/11 - 196.8lbs 5/6/11 - 193.8lbs 5/14/11 - 188lbs 5/21/11 - 189lbs Didn't sweat it. 5/28/11 - 186lbs (-3lbs) Arabella, Gwen, natamars Thanks, ladies! As Gwen said I am doing WW Points+ program and I'm working out 7 days/week, 6 of those days at the gym. The 7th day is walking my dog, biking, or both at leisure (nothing intense). Arabella I hope you aren't discouraged about the slight increase! I had one of those last week and it came off this week as I predicted it would. I felt too good in my skin to believe I really gained weight. Just stay positive! :) natamars You're doing a really great job. Looks like April was a bit of a yo-yo month because of TOM, but you've been seeing consistent losses this month. You're so close to your goal now! Gwen 17lbs is nothing to be ashamed of! Everyone's body is different and will lose weight at different rates. You're making lifestyle changes now that will help you consistently lose weight till your body reaches its equilibrium. You can't get discouraged! Just keep on trucking and you'll get where you want to go. jacymacy I recently switched my weigh-in day from Thursdays to Saturdays. Once you get into the groove of Friday weigh-ins the weight will drop so long as you're sticking to plan. :) |
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