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Old 08-02-2005, 01:37 PM   #16  
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The 3 hour diet does have suggestions for meals that you need to follow. I would suggest browsing our Jorge Cruise forum for tips on the plan and if it sounds like something you want to try, then you should buy the book for all the specifics. The ladies over there really know this plan inside and out
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:51 PM   #17  
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My problem used to be eating whatever whenever. It has really helped me to have 3 regular meals a day and a snack at night. I eat a variety of things, even bacon and eggs for breakfast sometimes, but most usually less fatty things like cereal and FF yogurt, and dinner will be a variety of things as well. I have exchanged really fatty snacks with LF snacks. I have successfully lost 30 pounds by eating this way, and I am still losing. I balance more activity with more food. I am getting about 1700 calories a day, more when I am more active.
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What helped you Allie ? The book or your 3fatchicks friends? How did you manage to pan your time to have exactly 3 meals a day?

I always eat what and whenever I like and I know its bad for me but I don't know how to get rid of that.
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Hi everybody.
I recently began my daily 30 min aerobic exercises. My problem is that immediately after I finish all my daily sets, I feel the urge to empty the fridge. Do you think I should go ahead and eat something or just wait for the exact hour of my next meal ? I read somewhere that athletes eat a lot of food after they finish their daily routines but I am afraid of getting fat ...
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NoChick, Actually many weight loss programs in addition to the one Suzanne mentioned advised to eat often and at least 3 meals and 2-3 snacks a day including 1) Weight Watchers; 2) SBD ; 3) Jenny Craig and 4) Nutrasystems.

What helped me was more of planning and reading a lot of BasalMetabolicRate and sound nutrition. I eat 3 meals a day plus 3 snacks and one of those snacks is right before I go to bed but it usually is not a high calorie/high point snack.

W/W also has a very good program that teaches because of its limitations (for lack of a better term) good nutrition and to eat only when you are hungry but it also gets your body the number of calories a day it needs. It is the Core arm of the program while you don't weigh and measure anything you still need to be aware of the program as well as your body's satisification hunger levels.

Sarah27, Many trainers recommend not eating right after a work out as your body is in a fat burning process and when you eat it will take the quick engery from the food you eat rather than your fat buring. My trainer recommends an hour. Are you eating something light before your workout? I can't or it makes me sick and I will wait until I am completely cooled down before I eat. I start my day with 25-35 minutes of WATP with 110% effort to get my heart rate up to a high intensity right after I get out of bed. I then cool down and take a shower and get ready for work before I eat about an hour.

NoChick, What works for me is eating about an hour after I work out in the morning at 5am. I have a midmorning snack of usually fruit and protein or micropopcorn about 9-10; I eat lunch at around 12:30-1:00, midafternoon snack about 3-3:30; I work out at the gym M-F at 4:30 and then I get home around 5 and have dinner between 5:30-6:00 with my evening snack usually around 9pm and bed between 10-10:30.

There is also a new book (not new concept or diet idea) called something like EVERY 3 HOUR or 3 HOUR DIET that may help you.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:43 AM   #21  
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NoChick, I have a really regularly scheduled job as a teacher, so my eating times are pretty much always at the same time each day now. I know all the dieting wisdom says things like "eat more smaller meals", or "eat every 3 hours", or "only eat if you feel hungry", but following that advice was not helping me. I eat the 3 meals, whether I feel hungry or not, because if I don't, then a couple of hours after "meal time", I get the munchies and want to eat any snack I can find. 3 meals keeps my hunger at bay and my eating in control. It is easier for me to plan what I will eat, and then it is easier to choose satisfying and non-fattening foods for those meals. Like I say, this has worked wonders for me, even though it goes against the diet gurus' wisdom! I think why this works for me is that I choose satisfying foods for my early meals (protein, cheese, milk, veggies, bran foods, etc.), and they hold me over without needing a snack until the next meal. I know this won't work for everyone, but it fits my schedule well.
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I recently began my daily 30 min aerobic exercises. My problem is that immediately after I finish all my daily sets, I feel the urge to empty the fridge. Do you think I should go ahead and eat something or just wait for the exact hour of my next meal ? I read somewhere that athletes eat a lot of food after they finish their daily routines but I am afraid of getting fat ...
Hey Sarah! What I would suggest is to snack on something high in protein and low in calories after your workout (1% cottage cheese or some tuna maybe??) I ALWAYS eat after a workout, but I am careful not to eat anything that will raise my bloodsugar too much and cause me to get hungrier. Eating protein right after a workout is good for building muscle and definitely should not hurt your weight loss efforts (in fact, it may even help!) Also make sure that you are drinking enough water during and after your workout - that can cause feelings of 'hunger pangs' as well... Good luck!!

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Old 08-08-2005, 04:02 PM   #23  
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Just some facts. Eating protein does not build muscle it aids in the repair of muscle. The only thing that builds muscle is exercise.

And actually most trainers will advise not to eat immediately after working out if you are trying to burn fat. Your body is in a fat burning process after a work out and if you intake any calories it will use those first for energy before turning to utilizing the fat stores for energy.
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Just some facts. Eating protein does not build muscle it aids in the repair of muscle. The only thing that builds muscle is exercise.

And actually most trainers will advise not to eat immediately after working out if you are trying to burn fat. Your body is in a fat burning process after a work out and if you intake any calories it will use those first for energy before turning to utilizing the fat stores for energy.
Building muscle comes specifically from damaging the muscle through workouts and then allowing the muscle a rest to repair itself (and protein helps this process). I was not implying that eating protein without working out would do anything. Also, most trainers that I have talked with HIGHLY recommend eating a protein-rich food (or shake) within 1-2 hours of a workout. Doing so will "help" your body to build muscle, and THAT is what will truly turn your body into a fat burning machine. My boyfriend is a bodybuilder and one of my best friends just competed in the "physique" catagory at a fitness competition and their trainers (hers was very high priced) told them the same thing. Maybe it depends on where you train???As far as the body being in a "fat-burning process" after a workout, what you really want to do is build lean muscle so that your basal metabolism (resting) will increase, and you are burning more calories all the time, even while you are laying around. I got down to my ideal weight several years ago doing this (and kept it off for 3 years, until a back injury kept me from the gym and caused a subsequent bout of depression that led to emotional eating - hence why I am here). Anyway, it is what worked for me - I do not recommend starving yourself if you are famished - a low calorie/high protein snack after a workout is not going to make you fat. Check out my pic on my profile - it worked for me...and that is the plan I am using to get myself back into the best shape of my life. I'm sorry if you don't agree with me, but it worked beautifully for me - I lost over 40lbs in just over 4 months and kept it off for over 3 years... each to their own, I guess. I am not a doctor, I am just trying to help with telling what works for me - after all - this is supposed to be a support forum, and that is all I am trying to do...

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Old 08-09-2005, 01:46 PM   #25  
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Just some facts. Eating protein does not build muscle it aids in the repair of muscle. The only thing that builds muscle is exercise.

And actually most trainers will advise not to eat immediately after working out if you are trying to burn fat. Your body is in a fat burning process after a work out and if you intake any calories it will use those first for energy before turning to utilizing the fat stores for energy.
Hi Sarah, just wanted to give you some more info on eating protein following workouts. Certainly make up your own mind and listen to what your own body tells you as to what is right for you, but I wanted to make sure that the "so-called" facts were presented with some sort of evidence (I am full-time in University and an avid fan of doing research ). Anyway, here are some articles (along with the references) that may prove helpful to you. Best of luck with the rest of your weight loss, I hope that some of this info helps you decide whether or not to have something to eat after exercising...

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Should I eat after working out?
by Jonny Bowden, M.A.

Question: Is it true that I should avoid eating for two hours after a workout? The instructors at my gym told me that I should eat only protein after exercising, and that if I eat carbohydrates or fat I'll gain weight.

Answer: The information about waiting two hours to eat after your workout is rubbish. Every responsible source in body-building and athletics recommends that you eat after training, and preferably within 45 minutes (or even an hour) after a workout. This period, known as the golden hour, is when the muscles absorb the most nutrients and when glycogen, an energy reserve in your muscles, is replaced most efficiently. The actual composition of the post-workout meal is a matter of some debate. For optimal glycogen replacement, most people recommend carbohydrates, but a certain amount of protein (at least 10 percent of the meal) is needed for muscle repair and growth.

I think the above recommendation is a good general guideline for athletes, but for weight management you probably have to go higher in protein and lower in carbohydrates. You don't need to eat a big meal, but you should eat something after exercising. Lots of people feel good after having a small, high-protein shake, just beware of the extremely high sugar and carbohydrate content of juice-based smoothies. Experiment with the amount of food or drink and proportions of carbohydrates, protein and fat to find out what works best for you.

Perhaps what the trainers at your gym are trying to emphasise is the need to moderate carbohydrate intake in a weight-loss program. They want to see you become someone whose metabolism burns fat faster and more efficiently. That is best accomplished by eating a nutritionally dense, low-calorie diet that offers a balance of protein, high-quality fat and the right kind of carbohydrates. This will keep your hormones balanced and your fat-burning machinery working optimally. I agree that you shouldn't load up on carbohydrate and fat after a workout, but you shouldn’t refrain from eating after you exercise.

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/dietandfit...157870,00.html
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"Supplying additional protein or amino acids may augment adaptations
to training but precise timing of protein intake may enhance the
response further. A recent study in elderly men investigated the
effect of timing of protein-carbohydrate supplementation on muscle
size and strength responses to 12 wk of resistance training (14). The
supplement (10 g protein, 7 g carbohydrate) was consumed immediately
or 2 h after each training session. The group who ingested the
supplement immediately after exercise had significantly greater
increases in (mean ± SEM) lean body mass (1.8 ± 0.7% vs -1.5 ± 0.7%),
muscle fiber area (22 ± 6% vs -5 ± 6%), and quadriceps femoris area (7
± 1% vs no change). These data indicate that altering the timing of
calories, without altering the amount consumed, can impact chronic
adaptation to training. Specifically, early intake of protein and
carbohydrate after a workout is more effective at increasing skeletal
muscle hypertrophy and lean body mass than a supplement consumed
later."


Volek JS. Influence of nutrition on responses to resistance training.
[Journal Article] Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise.
36(4):689-96, 2004 Apr.

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Old 08-09-2005, 03:39 PM   #26  
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Building muscle comes specifically from damaging the muscle through workouts and then allowing the muscle a rest to repair itself (and protein helps this process). I was not implying that eating protein without working out would do anything.
Not a problem I wasn't specifically targeting you on this but toss the info out there because of maybe the wording and possible misunderstanding. Just sounds like we were both thinking and adding to each other.

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Also, most trainers that I have talked with HIGHLY recommend eating a protein-rich food (or shake) within 1-2 hours of a workout.
Which is exactly what I was saying because 1-2 hours of a workout is not immediately. Again we were both on the same track.

My information is based on nutritional and fitness courses I have taken for a degree as well as the trainers I have been working with. (additoinal thought after posting) but then again like anything else there is you can ask 100 different people and get 100 different responses on what is right or wrong.

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My information is based on nutritional and fitness courses I have taken for a degree as well as the trainers I have been working with. (additoinal thought after posting) but then again like anything else there is you can ask 100 different people and get 100 different responses on what is right or wrong.
I think that you are totally right about that, this has been a hotly debated issue for some time apparently, but this latest research seems promising as far as maybe giving us some concrete answers to this question (finally). Of course, who knows? They could come out with something entirely different in 5 years right? (look at the "low/fat, low/carb debate" that nutritionists have changed their minds about which is better so many times - no wonder we are all confused!! )

Anyway, like I said before, it worked for me, especially once I started resistance training (which I highly recommend), and that is all I can tell anyone for sure... : Good luck to you all!! Take care!
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I usually eat about 1 hour after working out ***because it works for me*** and the fact that if I eat before I work out I get sick.

((WINK)) Like I stated it is what works for you mostly.
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Thanks psych_girl and Kelly_S. Eating a well balanced protein shake will probably eliminate the post-workout hunger and also sustain your muscles rebuilding action without increasing your weight because of the low-carb content.

Also to summarize it, one should carefully observe what it works and take action accordingly. After all, we all have different bodies factors and we have to find out what's working best for us.
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So, after all we should listen to what our bodies are saying ... if you are hungry then go eat something just be smart when you choose your food, that's all ... Am I right ?
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