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Old 01-16-2002, 04:44 PM   #1  
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I've been researching varous low and light carb diets and am considering trying the Zone as a guideline for cutting down on carbs - (just don't think I can live without). I have done WW before with great sucess but I just got tired of obsessing over every little point.

Any comments about The Zone?
Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-16-2002, 08:06 PM   #2  
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Welcome Susie!!!

I personally do not do the Zone and cannot offer many particulars for that LC plan. I so wish Maryann was still around as she was following the Zone and could prob offer you some info. (Hey Maryann, are you out there lurking? )

Dottie~~haven't you read it and tried it? Sorry if I'm mistaken but you've read so many so thought maybe you could offer Susie some info!

Susie-hopefully some of the more knowledgeable chicks will be here soon! I wish you the best of luck with your chosen plan and hope to see you post often!

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Hey Susie!

I can't say I read the Zone, but I know a couple of low carbers who do the Zone and love it. I think it is a bit difficult to start, a bit confusing. But once you practice the diet it becomes easy and very fulfilling. If you are looking for simplicity in your eating world, that may not be the best starting place. But if you have read it already and like it, go for it.

Certainly Dr Atkins' diet is not a good choice, since he really does have his low carbers watch their carb grams closely. Of course, once you get the hang of it, it is not very hard. But then he has you to watch ketones in your urine to see if you are eating few enough carbs (ketones are not the same as ketosis which brittle diabetics get into trouble about). At any rate, Atkins diet is very popular but also very strict about what you can and cannot eat.

Dr Nancy Schwarzbein has a book out that has good information as to why we all should do a balanced diet. She does her meals with a small amount of carbs at every meal, and even with snacks. But "balanced" has nothing to do with the (very harmful, by the way) low fat/high carb diet which has been promoted by the media. The original diet was supposed to be low fat/high carb/HIGH FIBER diet, but the fiber part got lost in the works and the food manufacutrers just put out lots of low fat stuff. If you read a few of the low carb diet books, you can see why the low fat diet is actually harmful. Schwarzbein in her book, The Schwarzbein Principle gives a very good explanation about that.

The Hellers also explain why low fat diets are harmful in their book, The Carbohydrate Addicts LifeStyle Plan. Their diet is the easiest low carb diet to try. In fact, if you really don't want to obsess over food, check out their plan. You don't count calories, carbs, or anything. You just balance your diet according to size of servings. Their diet is a bit more complicated than that, but it is really very easy to do. Some people don't like it because they can't control themselves (read, ME!) when given some leeway.

There are actually quite a few different low carb plans out there. All are doing the same thing in different ways. They are all helping us to eat wiser, more healthily (okay, sometimes I just make up words that SHOULD exist!). And that means to eat carbs that are full of nutrition, not just empty calories, and to eat much less of them than we have been consuming in the past two decades.

What I have suggested to people who are wondering about the low carb diets (oh, NO ONE suggests a zero-carb diet -- that would be suicidal... we all NEED carbs, but we need the good kind and WAY fewer than we have been eating)... anyway, if you are wondering about a low carb diet, read any of the more popular books. Read the book thoroughly, and try the diet exactly as written in the book, for two weeks. Most people are shocked to find out how good we feel when adhering to a balanced diet as the low carb diets are. It seems impossible to believe it is okay to eat eggs all day, and even butter, sour cream and real mayonaise. But when you read about the needs our bodies have for pleanty of protein (it is what our cells are made of, and so are hormones and neurotransmitters and such things) and fats.... yes, we need to eat fats!... it is amazing to learn why we need them and why we need to stop the insanity of the latest fad diet, the low fat diet. This may sound rediculous, to shun the very popular low fat diet. But I sincerely believe it has caused so much harm, and the low fat diet has not been proven by those scientists who promote it so much, to be a valid way to lower your cholesterol and chances of heart attacks, as well as to prevent diabetes, lower blood pressures back to normal, prevent hypoglycemia, and so on. The low carb diets are being proven to do all those things and more. Look at the bibliography at the end of the Hellers books to see how much research has been done showing the good results from the low carb diets. This is no fad. It is not a single diet by a single author. It IS a way eating that is good for you.
Eating fats does not makes us fat. Eating pasta and low fat salad dressing DOES makes us fat and very unhealthy.

Sorry, Susie. You weren't asking for a comlete dissertation on the low carb world. I get carried away.

The Zone is a great place to start low carbing. The best thing to do, after you try it for two weeks, is to read another low carb book. Then next month read one more. Knowledge is power. Low carb knowledge helps to prevent failure. This could be the last "diet" you try. After a two week trial, you will understand why I say this.

Good luck. I hope you find success with whatever road you travel toward health. And perhaps along the way you might lose a few pounds too. What a deal!

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Thank You So Much Giggles.

I really just needed to hear from a real person that has oviously done her research. It really is difficult to thwart the low carb science but each program has such a heavy marketing element that its hard to disseminate which path is best. Where the difficulty comes in is finding what works for each individual. You're advice is perfect - and I have ordered The Zone and a Week in the Zone. What I was missing is that is just a starting point.

As I mentioned I lost 35 pounds and reached my goal on WW. Not being willing to spend the rest of my life counting points led me to gain back 20 of that over a two year period. Looking back - I didn't feel that great when on WW - I suspect because of the amount of sugar/fake foods etc.

I really love good/real food and NEED to find a way to make it work for me rather than against. I look forward to diving into to world of low carbing.

Thanks again and I'll stay in touch. You Low Carber's seem to be a very nice group of people.

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Thank you, Giggles for the great post.
As a new Low Carber, I would like to confirm what you said about reading various programs.

I was never able to make myself work through the Zone, but if you'll see my other thread called "Anyone doing Fat Flush" you'll see that this program sparked my interest and got me started. (I know the title sounds hokey, but the research and program is not.) The other thing is that by following the condensed version in the magazine (I'll post the issue number) I was able to try it out without investing in the $20+ book and without reading the entire book. I just trusted the magazine and went for it!

Just for kicks on a long car ride I decided to try to find a low carb book on tape to have someone read it to me, and I found Protein Power. It's very technical about all the chemistry etc, but what the heck I had nothing else to do so I listened to all 3 hours. When I finally read the Fat Flush Plan book (not just the condensed magazine version) I was pleased to see all the similar research. The FF Plan is a simple plan to follow. (You can read more in my other thread.) She also states that you can combine her plan with other approaches which I am doing with WW pts for my own comfort, and she gives you some ways to modify the program if you can't follow or don't need the strict start up plan she offers.
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