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Well, as you saw- the monster hit again last night. Didn't go over my fat or my calories when I plugged it in to MFP this morning. Of course I couldn't help myself with the scale this morning. 127.4 I normally run around 125.4-8 a couple of things I am atributing it to- not my normal HUGE intake of water this weekend (I still had 64-80 oz) I seem to have about 120 oz on avg. a day- and I had a fair amount of salt yesterday. I'm going to eat normal today- and see what tomorrow brings-if it's still up I will do a P1/2 day. I also didn't get any exercise this weekend. I did a technology expo on Saturday so that was classes all day and yesterday I did some errands, then a bunch of stuff around here, vac packing chicken and stuff like that-I never got to sit down till about 8 last night- DBF has his colonoscopy today so...well, yeah- he hasn't been able to eat since Saturday night (mine didn't require me to stop eating that far in advance) and then he had to start the "potion" so he was in no mood to say "let's go out for a walk" I will hit the Y tonight on my way home and get either a Zumba class or core class in. Depends on what time I get out of ****...ahem, I mean work. So, we'll see. I also am going to lean more towards chicken this week- I ate a lot of red meat this past week. I started using Vital Proteins Collagen Powder as my supplement. My Country Life pills were almost gone (3 a day) and I needed to get more then I read about this in "Real Simple" I think is where I saw it. It calls for 2 scoops, but I am going to use 1 a day in my coffee. Anyone else using it? It;s made with grass fed bovine - it sounds like its a good product- I'm interested what you gals think. Beth-how was your weekend? Okay Ladies- off to begin my day-I hope that you all have a great one!!! |
Linda - don't worry about that teensy "scale-up" it sounds like you're staying in a range of a couple of lbs, and you know an uptick can be water, salt, who knows what... and it could be gone tomorrow. You have been sounding much less stressed about P4 lately, am I reading it right? Hope I get there soon.
I'm still not completely at a comfort level, I still fill in MFP every day. But I am getting the hang of it. Still making mistakes, and I have to admit, I have been getting a bit lax with water intake some days, need to try to get more than 64, same with exercise, but weather is improving here this week, so I'll definitely get out more. But my weight has also been keeping steady-ish, 132-133 most days. 133 today, but we had sausages and beans for dinner last night, and I thought it might be up, though I made sure to keep calories low. About the collagen, I've been taking the NeoCell collagen, and I've been happy with it (no, I don't have the skin of a 20 year-old :D ) but I figure it might be worse than is it without it. I'm not familiar with Vital Proteins Collagen, sounds like a good product, maybe someone else knows something about it, I'd be interested in knowing too. Spring-time...fixing up the house time. We're replacing the carpet in our family room with laminate, and that means that the oak built-in cabinets need to be painted (or that room will have too much wood!). So have to move all the stuff out of them, get them sanded down, and primed today. We can both do that, but thank goodness DH likes to paint, so he'll finish it off after that. OK, time for breakfast. have a great day, all. |
Good morning Ladies, how is everyone?
HIS How is Phase 1 going? How long do you think you are going to do it? Glad you got some awesome cardio in. Linda Hmm, Collagen Powder? What are the benefits? I'm not doing anything, and have never been that savvy when it comes to health food or supplements. blue Cool! Glad you have support of your coach for what you're doing. How was the play? Beth How are you with the work stress? Ugh. Sue Phase 2 on Friday! During Phase 2 and 3, my DH makes crockpot recipes with lots of servings. Then I save the leftovers for lunches at work. That way I don't have to think of something new every day or find something to eat at the hospital cafeteria. Yuck. Phase 3 on Saturday. What would you all think if I said I may switch Phase 3 breakfast with lunch some days? Last year I followed Phase 3 by the book, but I'm thinking it may be nice to have some practice adding carbs in my lunch in a reasonable way BEFORE Phase 4. I love Phase 3 breakfast, so I would do that mostly, but I'm using this reboot phase off as an opportunity to practice ideas for maintenance. I am still adding cheese to Phase 2. I have lost about a pound and a half on Phase 2. I also made an appointment for the hairdresser on Thursday!!! I just plan on getting it trimmed and styled, but nice to be pampered. My coworker who started IP in Feb. looks fabulous. She is going on a cruise to Alaska in July and she's super excited about it. Her DH who is not on IP but has been eating the same dinner with her has lost over 30 lbs. So not fair. Anyway, have a great Tuesday and week to everybody. |
blue, I'm jealous. My whole house needs work, and DH isn't healthy enough to do it, but he's an uber perfectionist so he gets anxious about anyone else doing it. UGH.
beth, I forgot to answer your question about the BCAAs I use. No calories per the label. I can't really tell if they're making a difference, but I've been using them less than 2 weeks. Linda, salt + no exercise - I bet that's why the scale is up. How were things this morning? miwi, as I understand it, in P3 you're supposed to have your carbs at breakfast to "wake up" the pancreas. Not sure it would work at lunch?? But someone more knowledgable will probably have the answer. My first P1 day was yesterday. It went better than I expected, although I was struggling with hunger between 3-6 pm. (Had a hard boiled egg and cup of tea as snack, which helped a little.) I'm expecting my usual ketosis headache to kick in today or tomorrow. I haven't decided if I will weigh weekly, or just wait until the end of my 20 days to weigh. I also still have to figure out when to go to P2 and P3, either before we head to FL on May 1, or during the first few days of our trip. Right now I'm just focused on getting through the first week and staying on protocol. There are two birthday parties on my agenda within the next week, and there will be cake, my kryptonite. As of yesterday, I was 8 pounds over goal, and 10 pounds over my lowest weight last December. So it was definitely time to get back to P1. Had I not had a running injury, I think I could have maintained a little better, but now I definitely understand why some people revisit P1 annually or bi-annually. |
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HIS - 0ne day under your belt :cheer: Hope the keto symptoms are not too bad the next few days for you. Just keep remembering how well you did before, you can do it again. We're here to cheer you on (and listen to any b***ch -ing you may need to do ;) - I know it's hard!! Quote:
I don't know if you have any of the P3 protocol sheets, but I found one, and copied relevant parts of it for you: Phase 3 is a concept unique to the Ideal Protein Weight Loss Method and arguably the most important part of the Ideal Protocol. …… is very simple as the only difference between Phase 2 and Phase 3 is the morning meal. There are three major objectives in this Phase and successfully meeting them will almost certainly guarantee the client long term success in his / her lifetime weight management. These are: • "Re-start" the pancreas' production of insulin and actually "train" the organ to produce the correct amount of this hormone in response to the carbohydrates that are consumed. In other words we are going to address the problem of hyperinsulinemia, a condition which many experts feel is the root cause of Metabolic Syndrome or Syndrome X. • Provide a transition from a weight loss protocol to a weight maintenance protocol. Most diets go directly from their weight loss mode to the maintenance phase as far as calorie consumption is concerned. These types of programs we feel, promote "food storage" rather than "food burning". In simple terms we will slowly increase the caloric intake so our metabolism can keep up with the increased fuel. Losing muscle mass during the weight loss phase and failing to slowly increase calories to a maintenance level are major reasons for the "yo-yo dieting" so typical in most popular programs. • Education. At some point during Phase 3 and the first two weeks of Phase 4 the client will experience a "one time" weight gain as their glycogen stores are replenished. This can vary between 2 and 1/2 to 5 pounds, depending on the sex and body size…… The mechanism by which we "reset the pancreas" goes like this: when we eat these carbohydrates our blood sugar rises. The pancreas now secretes some insulin, but very little is required to lower the blood sugar now. This is because our muscles and liver are depleted of glycogen and, just like after a vigorous workout, our bodies want to replenish the glycogen and much of the glucose can enter the muscle cells without needing the action of insulin. Remember, during Phases 1 and 2 of the protocol, very, very little carbohydrates were consumed and consequently very little insulin was produced. This period gave the cells of our bodies the required time to "re-gain their insulin sensitivity". Now when they see insulin they respond to its presence instantly. Bottom line is that very little insulin is now required to facilitate glucose uptake and the pancreas no longer needs to "keep pushing insulin" in order to regulate blood glucose control. |
Hey gang! Been reading but not a lot of "happiness" to post recently
HIS - :crossed: your journey back into ketosis is a smooth one Linda / Blue - you are both doing so well in maintenance!!! I know you bumped up a little Linda, but agree with HIS - extra water and probably just needing to "flush out the plumbing" so to speak ;) Candi - idk...so much emphasis is put on Phase 3 being the most crucial as you rev up your system again...and bio mechanically, is there an advantage to eating most of the calories / mixing fat/carb during the first meal of the day - as opposed to after you've already eaten & woken up your metabolism...? I keep thinking though that it really isn't a 'one size fits all' program. But honestly, no sage advice from this quarter, sorry It's been a rough 10 days - I've been teetering back and forth between uber-stressed and just not caring at all - neither end of the spectrum being a great place to sit for very long and I'm having a super hard time finding middle ground. 1 piece of good news - my chiropractor has returned to the area & I made an appointment for tomorrow morning :D I was only able to take this coming Thursday off (I really wanted 2 days) and most of the day is already full with things I've been neglecting for too long & this doesn't include getting my resume updated or filing our personal taxes. The stress has led to some binging - yesterday afternoon, getting slapped with a 12 hour deadline for some spreadsheets at 3pm = 1/3 jar of sunflower butter (a couple spoonfuls + a sunflower butter sandwich around 5pm for an early 'dinner') That in turn led to a really nasty tummy ache last night - so it equalized itself caloricly since I didn't eat a 'real' dinner - but I didn't get home until 8:30 either The stress here has also led to some not-so-good, idgaf what I eat thoughts and my willpower is seriously waning. I am also SO tired right now it's not funny & sadly, my running is also suffering - between the cr@ptastic weather and my hip issue, I haven't been outside to run since the 10 miler :( I really don't want to end up down-and-out for months with a hip bursitis or blown adductor either and I from everything I read on hip / quad pain, "rest-is-best". I will be thrilled to get a decent adjustment & advice tomorrow morning with someone who truly understand runners! oh, & fwiw...I weighed yesterday at the gym (still doing elliptical / bike for cardio & weights / resistance) - 150.6, still about 2#'s above my comfort zone & clothes are ok |
Beth - :hug: this has been a bit of a bad stretch for you. I hope you can find some way to de-stress - what a bad time to not be able to run, just when it would do you a world of good. You've been doing so well with maintenance, especially with all the tweaking you've had to do, don't let yourself get into trouble. Hope your chiro has some good news or suggestions for you.
One trick I read for those idgaf munchie moments - if you can find a timer, set it for 15 min when you have one of those moments. The delay may make it pass (or not, but at least you've tried :( ) , Taxes, yeah, that's on my list for today. Got the priming all done, DH said he'd do it, once the sanding was done :D so I've been pulling all my financial info together, have to get my business statement done before I can do personal taxes :( PITA, hate doing it, tedious, which is why this is the third time I've posted today, excuses for delay ;)) But I have to finish at least that part of it today. I should listen to myself when I tell myself to DO IT IN JANUARY!!! I meant to mention the other day, about a resume. I have a friend who has a business, a big part of it is doing resumes. She has had really good feedback from her clients, the success rate of finding a job is really high; she says most people just use an online resource, and it shows; she spends time interviewing them and getting all the relevant info that most people don't put in, and presents it in a professional manner. It is well worth spending the $$$ to find someone who can do a really good job. FWIW. If it comes to that, and things don't work out for you where you are. I hope you get to enjoy your day off on Thursday |
Hi All-
Okay, so, 125.4 this morning, sigh of relief in that I may just be getting the hang of figuring some of this out. Only a teensy weensy bit - but something at least. I tried a Victory bar before I went to the gym last night. It was okay- not as good as our Combat Bars, but I would definitely buy it again. I'm on day 3 of the Vital Proteins- don't know if it's working or not, but.....it's worth a try and besides the whole grass fed thing made me feel better. Blue, good luck with the taxes- we were late too- only filed last week- usually we try to get them out of the way early. Beth- I am so sorry that you are going through all this schit lately. Please please please know that you can call - The IDGAF's, HALT- hungry, angry, lonely, tired....definite triggers for anything bad- I am happy that you are going to see your chiro. I hope that helps!!!!! I wish that you were able to get the 2 days that you needed so that you could maybe squeeze in some "me time" for yourself and recenter-if that's even possible in a brief period of time. Blue- thanks for reposting that- I get confused about the philosophy behind it- when I try to explain it to people- Sounds like fun- I always like the sprucing up projects! I'm definitely less stressed but still experience some stress every day over it. I do tend to eat a lot of the same things over and over. I think that helps decrease the stress level HIS-Hoping that P1 isn't as tough as everyone makes it out to be. I am glad that the elliptical is working out for you too!! There has been a carrot cake in the fridge here at work for a couple of days and even though its one of the chain store kind...I really want to drag my finger across the top of the frosting...so I get the cake/kryptonite.... Candi- I wouldn't do it- I have read somewhere also about the importance of that jumpstart in the morning... Okay- lunch is over- and why is it I always end up having tuna on the days I have to go to the dentist??? :dizzy::D |
Beth: Just know that you are not alone in the 'dumps' right now.... A few of us are having 'My life is not making me happy' feelings for many different reasons.
:grouphug: I find Spring does that to me (sad memories from my recent past) which is why it's not my favorite time of the year. Anyhow, It's good to read up on the latest on this thread and think about a daily project I can get behind so I can have a feeling of accomplishment. At least we up north get a bit more time to get our taxes together (Apr 30th but since it is a Sunday actually May 1). For our business we do not pay all year but set it aside in a savings account to be paid in one lump sum, so we don't loan it to the gov't for free, but it does seem painful when it's one big payment, lol. Liana |
Hi all,
Looks like the weather is warming up a bit for the next week here. Work has been super busy and I feel like I am sinking. The only time I get to work around the house seems to be on weekends. Yesterday was my birthday - so I celebrated by enjoying 1 oz of cheddar cheese (i figured this was better than cake and knocking out of ketosis). Yum... and dinner at Texas Road House. They agreed to sub my free side of ribs for a side of shrimp :). My DH also picked me up flowers and a nice card. Liana - sorry to hear that spring is a hard time for you. Interesting to learn about Canadian taxes. Destony - Glad to hear weight is good today. Carrot cake is a weakness for me too, but that is one cake where I just want the cake and not the icing. Blue - I also have to paint some cabinets in our family room. We updated a lot of the 70s wood in our house and that is one spot that is still outdated. Hope it looks great. Did you go with a gloss paint? Beth - we are here for you -- good times or bad. Sorry that things have been ruff lately. Hoping that it is an upswing for your from here. You have learned so much about yourself during the past years journey. Glad to here your chiropractor is back. Hope your day tomorrow is better. (plus you have a day off to look forward to) HIS - I am glad to hear that your first day went well. I hope that your keto flu is not as bad this time. (I did a little reading and it appears that it is not consistent / predicable symptom) I know without the injury P4 would have been easier for you. Question for everybody. It seems that as I have lost more weight I just seem to see how I have to loose more. (why does this bother me but 65 other pounds did not). I really don't know how I can stop now as I just feel the fat on my back, hips, waist etc. Sue |
Sue - :bday2you:
You found a great way to celebrate, staying on track! you go girl!! Glad you had a great day!! The cabinets, I think we decided a pearl finish, not quite as glossy as semi-gloss. Hope they look OK. The other question. A lot of us, myself included, reset our goal after losing some weight. I had my goal initially at 150, really just a number I picked, because it would have been a 50lb loss and I was skeptical whether I could do that. But, if I remember correctly, when I got to about the mid 160s I knew I wouldn't be happy stopping at 150, so revised it to 135. Really glad I did that. I know now I would not have been happy at 150, knowing I could/should have lost more, and would probably have ended up going back on P1 to lose it. So glad I didn't have to do that. For me 135 was at the top of my BMI healthy range, if that helps. But having said all that, you're the only one that has to be happy with the way you look and feel, and so let that be the number you decide on. |
Sue Happy Birthday!!!
OK y'all. I am NOT going to mess with phase 3. Ha! I talked to DH last night and told him, "I asked the board, and they said not to do it so we can't do it." Wild night without DH and kids. I vacuumed without anyone bothering me, talked to my girlfriend on the phone without anyone bothering me, and watched Sense and Sensibility without anyone bothering me. Not to mention I actually used the bathroom without hearing, "Mommy! Where are you?" Crazy!!! Tomorrow night is my hair appointment. Have a super Wednesday! |
beth, spring doldrums mixed with job uncertainty? You've certainly had some stressors lately. I hear you on the nut butter problem. Up until this recent P1 reboot, I had a LOT of trouble sticking to one serving (2 T!) of pb. I'd really like to just not have it in the house, but DH likes it.
Tell me more about your hip issue? I must have missed an earlier post. I think it's normal to have those fleeting "I don't care" days, especially if you think too long about the road ahead. Sometimes it seems impossible to keep staying diligent for the next 40-50 years. For me, in those moments I have to just focus on TODAY. liana, I'm glad you mentioned tax season yesterday. I asked DH if he was doing ours this week or if he had asked for an extension, and he had forgotten all about it. :yikes: sue, to be perfectly honest, 165 might really be too high a weight for your height. Maybe you DO need to set a lower goal. But I do think part of it is, on this protocol we just become a lot more aware of our bodies, how they feel and look. I hope you can find your "happy spot." :) Well, I woke up today with raging keto headache, always the worst symptom for me. I've dosed myself with Tylenol and am working on a cup of coffee. My hot flashes have also been horrific the last couple of days. Unfortunately, they tend to come with nausea. In some women, the release of the hormones triggers stomach upset. So I spend my day with random waves of nausea, followed by the internal tropical vacation. So lovely. Yesterday was okay, except for acute hunger in the evening. Thankfully I was at work so I couldn't binge. Can't really tell if I've lost anything yet, maybe a pound?? It's been rainy here for several days, so all my workouts have been at the gym. Yesterday I talked to an instructor and asked about doing something to strengthen my pelvic area, and she recommended a pilates class. So I'm going to try that, either on Friday or next week. My daughter & I are also going to try a yoga class together. I'm the least flexible person I know, so it should be interesting. Hopefully I won't groan too loudly in the class. haha. |
:hug: to you all - I felt the Universe just wrap me in positive thoughts yesterday afternoon and really felt much better by the evening :)
Blue – what a GREAT tactic! My Fitbit has a timer on it too! I’ve been giving in too easily to ‘the call of the wild’ so-to-speak :lol: One thing I have figured out about ME is that once I have it in my head that I want something, it really is better to have a little, than to try and satisfy that craving with something else – 95% of the time I still go and eat whatever it was I originally craved, so it just adds to the calorie / fat / carb totals I am going to PM you about your friend – will it make a difference though that I am in the US? Not in regards to her skills, but having to make an international phone call / exchange rates ;) Linda - ;) we told you so <3 & thank you so much – you are awesome lady! Even with what I have to get done tomorrow, I am squeezing in some “me-time” – planning a run in the morning…and seriously contemplating postponing the afternoon ‘to-do’ thing (morning one HAS to get done…no if-and’s or buts) and making a hair appointment ;) I’ve been neglecting myself too much… Oh - & EWWWWWW – I almost become a dental hygienist but DH’s morning breath sometimes almost makes me puke :p Liana – idk why it is, but spring in general always causes me emotional turmoil – I don’t get this way in the fall though – go figure. This year has been a bit tougher than most though Sue – belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! Yum – Texas Roadhouse was a P1 favorite! In regards to the weight loss – now is better than later. Even though I’d been overweight my whole life, I knew I was aiming for a healthy BMI (155 is top-end for my height / bone structure) and wanted a buffer, so set my sights on 145 – 150…at one point I wanted to go to 138, but my body wasn’t having it Candi – Thumbs up on that decision! I tend to be a skeptic, but P3 seems to be really important… HIS – Sorry you are suffering / crossing the bridge into ketosis – blah! Sounds like you are also dealing with the cr@ptastic weather blues too – I may regret this come July, but c’mon summer! Nut butters…I can easily get rid of the sunflower, almond, & cashew butters (oh but they are so darn delicious) – but the Skippy’s Natural PB will always be there…think I’ve mentioned that it’s one of DH’s primary calorie sources…without it, I believe he’d be anorexic. It’s like the nuts – another thing I could live without but DH needs…just way too easy to grab a handful when I’m hungry. I try to allocate for these extra calories, but I don’t count or weigh or measure – and most of the time, don’t even account for it in MFP. The hip – my hip flexors have been tight since February when my long runs really got ‘long’ – ie, 8+ miles every Saturday. It also coincides with losing my sport-chiro in January – anyway, my right hip, glut, and quad got pretty bad during the 10 miler…the Cherry Blossom facebook page has video of everyone crossing the finish line and I look like a drunk sailor limping / running across it :lol: :o Saw my chiro this morning – she did full range of motion testing & although it’s my right side aching, it’s my left side that is causing the issue. As soon as she started working on me, I KNEW! Owwwwww! She did some great adjustments & exercises with me & I am now tasked with doing 10 bridges 3 times a day to improve glut strength :) She told me I was fine to race Sunday Also - out of nosy curiosity - I read that ladys post on the alt-FB group this morning about being bothered by the "I cheated (or didn't follow protocol) and lost weight" posts. Does this have anything to do with my "buddy" Barry? Fwiw, I side with her and read your thoughts on it too. I have seen posts on the alt-page that have made me all the more grateful for having done the majority of my journey with y'all / 3FC for guidance. I am feeling so much better today – I’m not joking about feeling the positive energy…and as a few of you might have seen on the alternates FB page, I reached out for a little extra affirmation. That was two-fold though as I’ve been reading a lot of posts with people struggling and I read these and think ‘gosh, if I can do this, just about anyone can’. Not trying to minimize anyone struggles (look at me in maintenance ;) ) – and d@*n, it took me 30 years to really get my $*it together…but I feel like if you’ve gone so far as to find these FB pages / groups, you are on the right track and maybe just need to see that it can be done…and on the alternates group, that it can be done successfully with the alternate foods / without a coach. It was also an amazing 90 minute visit with my chiro – oh God I <3 her :lol: we still have some work to do, but it was nice to get the reassurance she doesn’t believe I will do any damage going out to race Sunday and my problems are very correctable. I love the gym she is with now too…but I am already paying for 2 memberships and my job situation remains very dicey. She warned me beforehand it’s just SOP for her to ‘sell’ the gym, but that doesn’t change our relationship. We also signed the girls up last night to come out Sunday and walk the 5K while DH & I do the 10K. DD11 is really excited to get some “bling”. She was like “I’ve never gotten a trophy or medal before!” DD19 has tons of trophies and medals from her 10 years of softball. Hoping maybe they both get a little of the running-bug too…at least for the 5K’s:) |
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I’m so sorry that you are suffering- but hopefully by tomorrow you’ll have it all kicked in and feeling good again. I noticed now in maintenance that I am getting them again- I have to get back on the vinegar- need to try the GG Moonshine everyone talks about. I kept saying I was going to, but haven’t. Good luck with the Pilates class!!!! I am the same (flexibly challenged) in Yoga Quote:
I said to DBF at 430 this morning, I am SO glad that I didn’t get in to the FB pages while I was in P1- too much conflict, confusion and drama. I couldn’t remember about the Quest bars and maybe I worded it wrong, but I thought it was clear that I wasn’t 100% sure about the bars and why- pretty much has something to do with my name being used in full makes me feel as though I am being reprimanded….(I’m sure it’s my own shortcoming) especially after Diane had clarified- so there was no reason in my mind that the other lady had to chime in. (Overthinking and being overly sensitive) But also, I am glad that I wasn’t seeing everyone’s cheats and stuff- it really frustrated when my friend would tell me what she cheated on and how she still lost- but I look at her today and she’s struggling and not going to be a maintainer. She gives in/up too easily. NOT MY JOURNEY… Things are good here, fingers toes and eyes are crossed and I just keep plugging along. Funny how yesterday my intake of fat % was so much higher than everything else. I am still such a work in progress. I just have to keep plugging and tweaking and hoping that the scale stays steady eddie. Going to have a walkthrough on the Nautilus style equipment at the Y. I’ll use some of it, but I know that free weights give you such a better range of motion. I figure I’ll do the machines to develop a better comfort level- god I can’t believe I am saying that- I used to be such a weight room rat. Tonight, it’s a bootcamp class, looking forward to getting my a** kicked. I need to get back to work, it’s crazy and I really need to be attentive. Love you all my 3FC family |
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