They seem to have fixed the board, I have not had the sign in problems when posting the last couple of days.

LINDAJEAN here :lol: Thank you all for your wisdom and encouragement. As I just got back in to bed with my coffee and having my *ahem* morning ritual, (after reading this all) Tuesday morning and Saturday morning...ok- maybe Friday morning....but I'll shoot for Saturday before weigh in. I'm going to put the post it note on the scale and see how it works out for me. I think the only exception would be is if I were to indulge, but even then, I am going to know if I "indulge" (or so we think I do-:?:-lol) so if I were to, the scale isn't the important thing for me to do - following protocol is - and the scale doesn't dictate that-knowing what you ate does. Make sense? I talked to coach about my NBMonster-she knows him well, and also about phasing away-which I told her I don't want to be "that client" that she dreads seeing. NBM- she noted that sometimes I need more natural protein than I am eating at dinner-that may be part of it, she echoed what Beth said about a T not really "hurting" me- she did note the day that I have PB AND AB noted in my snacks- and she talked about spikes-to which I embarrassingly admitted that they were ingested at the same time....(like a tsp of PB and close to 2T of AB-actually probably a bit over) anyhow she also noted that after the week before when it seemed like I was probably hitting the old "occassional" veggies a little hard, I had none last week- she noted that intentionally or nor I am shying away from carbs-just pointing it out nothing really to say either way. As far as spacing my visits- she said that it's fine until I am comfortable. SHe said that for me, her feeling has been that once the boat is in the water, she expects that that is when she will see me space my appointments -Our clinic is on the slow side, which I think is a bonus for me, but in reality, I keep y fingers crossed that they have enough business to sustain themselves. Came home from the HS yesterday and DBF was making his homemade sauce....(gravy for you Italian folk) I could care less about the sauce itself, but the meatballs are to die for-so I grabbed 2 and OMG after over a year- they were really good-but, not like I remember. I didn't say that to him, but they were still yummy. His grandmother was from the region that adds raisins to their meatballs- and as his added touch he barbecues them. (We have a charcoal grill that he made years ago out of an old school half barrel-we have one that's made from a quarter barrel that mounts on the stern deck rail of the boat- and can I tell you how many people stop as the are going by in their dinghy a to ask about it...) anyhow- yeah no gas grills here- that was a big adjustment for me back in the beginning ...:o. Coach had told me that I needed more protein based on what I told her I was bringing to the HS for lunch. Anyhow- ramble ramble ramble.... :lol: Tonght I'll make zoodles and have sauce with him. I used to love dipping Italian bread in to the sauce- I did a small hunk yesterday - first white bread in forfreakinever- yeah- another thing that wasn't as awesome as it used to be. So, I don't know if it's a Gemini thing or what- but my rational brain knows that I am not even close to my scream weight- I think it's just that any upward movement is terrifying. So, I pledge to make the honest attempt at Tuesday and Saturday morning.
Sue- I am glad that the packing is going well. It's going to be a long process, but you are smart to not procrastinate. It seems as though I am getting very good at that....I feel as though I am finally catching up n my sleep too- this time change was really really hard on me- great something to look forward to as I get older...lol
Beth-can you P3 with the running? I think we get the "frightened" part- I know that. I sure do. It's just so easy at times....as easy to say f/i as it is to fight it sometimes. Nighttime, that's my worst time- I'm thinking of not even going in to the kitchen when I finish my nappatizer. I had to say "NO" to myself last night. We've got your back here lady- I'm an early to sleep girl, but I'd be willing to give you my phone number if you need someone to "talk you down" not sure I'd have the right words, but I would sure as **** try!! I'm sorry that you are going through this-yeah you own it, but that doesn't make it any easier- it is showing me how easy it can happen. It's scary because you are an athlete -yes, you are! You've done all the right things and everything we;ve been taught/conditioned to believe with calories etc- we have to pay attention and remember what we are learning with regard to IP....A teachable moment? Yeah- but it sucks that it is happening to you. I don't want to see it happen to any of us.
Blue-we're preparing for snow..again, - yeah -so much for Cape Cod getting rain out of this.....Boston was supposed to get smacked not us...good news is that mid week we'll be in the 50's so it will should go away quickly! Can't even get started on the chest- other than to say when the time comes I'll go to the place that sells pieces instead of sets, cause the size that fits the bottom ain't gonna fit the top-:mad: lol. My grandmother lived in Sarasota- I remember it being really nice there. We have friends out on Anna Maria Island in that area and they absolutely love their winters there.
HIS-The exercise or lack thereof has always been what I can pinpoint as my downfall in my yo yo cycle- I would exercise like a demon and eat right to get the weight off and then, life would interfere (read lazy and sitting around the pool or on the beach drinking with friends) and slowly, before I knew what happened (quite an oxymoron) boom- their I was again,,,,This time, I am bound and determined not to let that happen. I'm not sure when summer gets here and work gets later and the boat enters the picture what I'm going to do exactly, but I am going to need to make a game plan to keep exercise in the picture. I hope that your shopping trip didn't do anything to aggravate your pelvis. I think about how much walkiing I do when I go on shopping expeditions that don't involve DBF:D
Well, the sun is up, coffee is done. I suppose that I should get up and make my breakfast. Lots to do today- I wish that weekends were 3 days and not 2- I never seem to get everything done that I need to. Though I don't know about you all, when he is out of the house I can get schizzle tons done, but if he's underfoot- it's just difficult. To boot,when I was leaving th HS yesterday I had planned to do some errands on my own, but he texted that his youngest was at the house to show us pics of her trip to Aruba, so home I headed - no errands done- by the time she left with her daughter we both needed a nap-so that was about an hour then deliver his mother her batch of sauce and I wanted to get a walk in before dark- bam- there went that day.....So ladies, I hope that you all have a great Sunday and well, yes, the sun is up here- but can't be seen as the clouds are thick- glad that we got the brush burned last weekend. ...

Oh, and just on FB- does anyone else think that Bra ladies swimsuit pictures are 2 different iMessage? Look at the ab definition differences in the pictures ...oh and -okay yes it's catty- I'm so sorry that your metabolism is burning calories faster than you can take them in and is anyone else having that problem>but as a former bodybuilder or whatever you were, you should know this and know that's the answer since you are walking jogging lifting and crunching..... Okay cattiness done....(I think)

Don't get me started... And I still say she's not 16% body fat.

Sue, thanks for the info about gluten free dining on the cruise. That helps a lot. She's been celiac since she was 18 months old (21 years ago!), so we're pretty accustomed to making special requests at restaurants, but it sure is nice to eat somewhere where she can have a variety of options. Fortunately she doesn't need sugar-free or dairy- free, too, like some celiacs.

Beth - I don't have any advice, just empathy. It does make you wonder how elite runners eat. I suspect that a lot of them have a dysfunctional relationship with food, to be so thin and push themselves so hard.

Linda - DIL had to cancel yesterday, so I ended up only doing a little shopping in Target. Not too much walking, and what I did was slow. Beth, I found and bought two boxes of Oatmega bars while I was there, mint and peanut butter, at your recommendation. I also replenished my stash of Somersaults. Have you tried those? Pretty tasty, and they seem to be a healthy alternatives to other sweet or savory snacks. I just have to be cautious to count out a serving, or I could eat the whole bag in one sitting.

Day 4 of no activity = no pain. I like the no pain part, but not laying around. I'm going to try a longish walk tomorrow (4 miles, probably) and see what happens. If I can do that without pain, I'll get back in the pool this week.

Staying within my diet boundaries isn't too difficult until after dinner. I don't know what happens after 7 pm, but all my cravings kick in then, and HARD. I want sugar, peanut butter, chocolate. I sure would like to figure out what causes it.

blue and miwi - re: carbs, same here. Although I like a bowl of protein cereal for breakfast, I find I can pretty easily skip any carbs at lunch or dinner. I don't seem to miss bread, or potatoes, or rice, or chips. Last night I made mac & cheese and had a very small portion and didn't feel a need to go back for more. I love Italian pasta dishes, though, and I do have to be careful with those. My carb downfall, as I've said before, is always on the sweet side, like cakes and cookies.

Linda - I just love your stream-of-consciousness morning posts :)
How lucky you are to have such a good coach, sounds like she completely understands the anxiety you're having and knows how to rein you in, calm you down. hard part has always been that we all know in our heads what we need to do, but actually doing it...different story, eh? But you have done amazingly well, both with the diet and through several months of maintenance...just look where you are right now, looks pretty good to me!

Ah, Beth :hug: Don't beat yourself up too much, you accomplished something amazing with the half marathon, and you over-indulged. You human, you :D It's going to happen to all of us that there will be events that make us do this, you have the added after-effects of the race as well. Didn't someone say it takes a couple of weeks for the muscles and inflammation to readjust? makes sense that some of that weight is a result of that, no way you ate enough calories. With the next race to get ready for, you've figured out what your body need to fuel properly for running, and it's been working pretty well for you, so stick to that. Keep your fingers out of the nut butters ;) I'd be willing to bet that a week from now, your scale will be your friend again.

Sue - lucky you that your mom is so helpful with the packing. We've had a lot of moves in our lives, many times relocating to other cities, and each time, we got rid of a lot, but always somehow ended up with a pile of boxes sitting in the basement that never got unpacked till the next move :). Getting rid of stuff is hard and it's good to have someone there that can nudge a bit to get rid of things. Wish you luck getting the house ready, and fingers crossed it will be a quick sale.

HIS glad to hear no pain, and sure hope it continues for you with some light walking, I know it's got to be so frustrating to make yourself not be active. I hear you about cravings, I'm looking for sweet/salty most afternoons, yesterday I had a few oatmeal raisin cookie/crackers. Haven't been able to find somersaults around here yet, they sound good. Snacks are a problem for me, I never know what to have, and I'm not really sure what if any, the guidelines are for what or when. Or does it even matter?

We went out for an early morning coffee (often do on weekend mornings, otherwise how would we know it's the weekend? retired people joke :lol:)
The plan was to walk over, but we were both feeling kind of lazy, and it's chilly this morning, below freezing, so we drove over. Will have to get out for a walk later when it warms up. Nice and sunny though, and a beautiful morning sunrise, sky was streaked with pink. Found a package of turkey bacon in the fridge yesterday, close to expiry date, so DH talked me into making bacon and eggs for breakfast. With some Florida grapefruit, and toast and yogurt...I am never going to get used to eating so much at breakfast.
All this talk lately about exercise. Yes, exercise is going to be a problem for me. I know I will be more active because I am not lugging around all that extra weight. But OK I'm admitting it, I'm not all of a sudden going to become a super athlete or a gung-ho anything. Never was before, and even if I try now, I know it won't last. I am what I am. But like Sue said, I have to prove to myself that I can maintain with low to moderate exercise.
But I've been diligent about logging in to MFP, and keeping food on track, and that is being really helpful. I always seem to be higher on fats, lower on carbs, though. Weight has been fine, but I'll give it a few weeks and try to look at the bigger picture, not just a few days. I wonder how much it matters?

Another Sunday and another weekend almost gone.

Blue - you are right - I am lucky to have my mom and dad to be able to help. Breakfast sounds wonderful. Since IP we have not gone out much on Sunday mornings for breakfast. Now with the house we are trying to save extra money too. (I am a little jealous).

HIS - agree not 16% BF. Glad to hear that you had a pain free day. Wishing you many more. I am not help with the cravings thing - but when you figure it out please share as I am sure it will happen to me in the future.

Destony- It is interesting that some food don't taste as good as you remembered. I think you found your new mantra "the scale isn't the important thing for me to do - following protocol is - and the scale doesn't dictate that-knowing what you ate does.".

Another day of packing and sorting. One room in the basement is starting to look presentable. (Trust me it was far from it at the beginning of the weekend. ) Only 11 more rooms to go...

LMAO!! I am weighing how much I care about getting banned...I know, "just keep scrolling" right? ;) but I checked into that board after getting back from the gym and it really hit me the wrong way - the same way it sounds like it hit you...like "for real? Do you ever read anyone elses posts? You are the exception, not the rule, congrats!" I also find it interesting she posts this not long after the other weight-lifter lady posted about her continuing weight loss issues the other day.
UGH! Just not what I needed to read with everything I'm dealing with...which is why I know I should leave it alone ;)

Sincerely, thank you all for the kind words
Linda - <3 thanks.
Baby steps - I'll try to IM you the next time I'm getting ready to dive head first into the nut butters.
I hear you on the summer-lazies...I also have a horrible habit when I get super busy / overwhelmed at work of not leaving my office...That's the good thing about the schedule I've set for myself - getting up at 5 / 5:15a to run weekdays and 6:30a on Saturdays circumvents my primary issue - I made it through year end! If I can do that, I can do anything

Sue - one step at a time - how wonderful your folks can come lend a hand too!

Blue - :crossed: you're right
Just mvho as a long-time low carb - fat has gotten a really bad rap over the last 40 years and science / nutritionists are finally starting to come back around the other way - as long as you're maintaining

HIS - glad you were able to rest - I've not tried the somersaults yet, but saw them in Target the other day...right now, I honestly have too many snack-y foods in the pantry (part of the problem...) as both Roy and I have been trying new, healthier (???) things. hmmmmmmmm
The munchies can hit me at any point after lunch...I really wish I could pin point the exact issue - its so d@mn frustrating sometimes...based on what I think / believe causes evening munchies, I should be going nuts tonight...but I feel fine - go figure

Nice Sunday - slept 10.5 hours last night, got our new, 'faster' internet router installed, and went and did a good weight session at the gym. Should be a good week for running (after tomorrow at least...) - DD11 is on spring break, so no fighting with her in the mornings *amen!* so I'll be able to get up at 5:30 instead of 5 :p

I knew there was something I forgot to look for at the Vitamn Shoppe yesterday- though I grabbed a cookies and cream combat....yuummmm!!! The Oatmega! One of these days. Anyhow, yes I bought 2 bags of the somersaults as part of my initial P4 shopping trip. I haven't had the cinnamon ones, but I have had the cocoa ones. The one thing that has kept the 2 bags hanging around-my coach said that if I had them as an afternoon snack, I ight want to think about not having a carb at dinner....so I take that as her thinking they are a bit too carby...I don't know- and you know me....hesitation has set in (sung to the tune of Carly Simon's anticipation...lol- (*you're welcome*)
I am glad that you have had a relatively pain free day thank goodness- let's hope repairation is happening for you!
Blue-thank you :hug: it's only 7 weeks in, and I guess baby steps really is the way for me to go. One day at a time. Breathe in breathe out. I did stay off the scale this morning. Even though I wanted to get on...I knew I had to break my pattern. I'm glad you are faithful to MFP- I really believe that's key- and I am learning more and more from it -
OH JEEZ_ just looked at the clock....I'll try to edit/finish this at work....it's goinna be a slow drive to work- this mess started as icy sleet at about 3, so.....my 7 minutes is going to take a lot longer......TTYL
So funny that I can now not imagine a huge breakfast anymore...I love it!!! As far as exercise- I won't lie- there are days when I can't wait to go and there are days when I really really really don't want to!! When I push myself to do it, I am glad that I did ☺
Yes, hoping that I can break the habit- started strong today- :wink: tomorrow I will weigh, then not again until Saturday morning- so that I can make sure that my scale at home is staying close to the clinics. Glad that the packing is coming along- I'll bet it's quite a feeling of accomplishment.
I haven't looked, but I hope you held your tongue- I would have loved some PB last night but told myself- no you can have it at breakfast. So, I feel a win there....Sounds like you had a great day overall yesterday- did you get much from this foolish storm? It's white here....ride in not too bad- but hope that warmer temps will make it disappear quickly! Hope that you got to sleep in till 530 this morning... ☺
Hope that everyone has a great Monday!!!

Hi All! Just a quick check in. I'll be back later when I have some more time. I considered doing the Facebook thing for IP, but I'm not sure if it would actually be helpful. You gals are so supportive, and it sounds like some of the Facebook people are a bit weird. Ha!

Well I started Phase 1 on Tuesday of last week after PR and I'm down to where I left off today, so I'm feeling pretty good about that. I have about a month more of Phase 1 for this reboot. I think I'm in a good place overall. OK, talk to you all later.

Candi, that's wonderful news, especially for a Monday! I think, in regards to the FB pages, just be really careful who you listen to. Weird...lol- and I seem to miss a lot of it- but yes, there has been weird, dramatic, mean, lots of different things.

Great news! You obviously made the right choice for vacation, and the rest of Phase 1 will go so quickly for you!
I admit, I look in on FB occasionally, there is some good info there ( lots of useful files) but yes, lots of drama and not great info too.

Thanks for that, Beth. I've been journaling in MFP for a week, and my fats are always red. You are probably right, and it shouldn't matter. Actually, in P1, I had more fat than allowed and it didn't seem to hurt.

Ok, so MFP is telling me I need to make some adjustments.
This morning I weigh 132.2 :yikes:
(OK, don't all roll your eyes at me because I lost a few lbs, I'm still just trying to figure this out :D )
A week ago (end of vacay) I was 136.0, and my weight has been down a bit each day...I have MFP set to 1500 calories. Should be higher 1675 ( BMR 1218, lightly active), but I was hoping to lose a few lbs, maybe get to 130, so I would have that 5lb cushion, so I set it a bit low just to start somewhere. I would be happy anywhere between 130-135. I figured it would take awhile to get there. Evidently, I was eating more calories on vacay (not journaling so I have no idea how many :o ). And admittedly, I have been very cautious this week, so I've had a few days when I was under by a fair bit, only 2 days a bit over. Yesterday, I consciously ate more, had 2 snacks. I haven't been particularly active this week, just some walking. So I'm resetting MFP to 1600, I'm going to journal in advance, and see what happens.

Going to go have breakfast - I still have my P3 file of recipes that I haven't tried -- oatmeal pancakes, with grapefruit and turkey bacon. Thinking maybe chili for dinner.

Happy Monday everyone!

ETA - Nope --- board is not fixed, logged me out again! I've learned to copy before preview :lol:

blue, okay, I admit it, I'm jealous of your weight loss. But yeah, you don't want that to continue too far. Bumping up to 1600 sounds like a good plan.

Candi, the FB page is a strange place. Internet communities tend to be that way, anyway, but that group seems to be over the top on drama and misinformation. What continues to shock me is how many people are given poor or completely wrong information about the protocol by their coaches. I would seriously love to know what kind of training these coaches get. One lady posted that her coach urged her to have butter and cream on P1. :yikes: Then there are the people who just post stuff that isn't even true, like the woman who today said that red meat doesn't digest, it just rots in your digestive tract. (WHAT?!) It used to make me nuts when the former admin, Steven Larry, told everyone he exercises 7 days/week, 52 weeks a year. That is such bad advice, especially for a group of people who did little to no exercise in their lives. Rest days are crucial for muscle recovery and to prevent overuse injuries. So if you join that group, be wise about what you read.

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My rest day yesterday turned into a weight lifting session. A friend was getting rid of two leather sofas and a big leather sectional, so my son and DIL and DH and I took the truck and trailer and loaded them up. Good golly they are heavy. My arms and back are aching today. (DH didn't lift, my son and I did most of it.) Unfortunately, I can tell it put some strain on my pelvis so I'm debating whether to walk or not today. Might just do an easy mile or two instead of 4. Or maybe just rest.

Linda - FYI - to my knowledge, TVS does NOT carry OatMega (yet) - or at least the one in Woodbridge doesn't ;) I found mine at Target - but they have a limited selection.
& nope - I behaved :p
Congrats on using the :dust: last night :D

Candi - there is some good support on the FB pages too...just have to weed through the poop :)

Blue - count me as "jelly" too ;) but also, your body may have just had more to lose than you thought - congrats!

HIS - I like the one guy too who crops up from time to time and recently posted he is 26 pounds under goal! Maybe you should have reevaluated your goal ;) 5 - 10 pounds under, ok...26 - you picked the wrong # lol
I saw another weird one crop up on one of the FB pages - but we'll see...that IP may be allowing Coconut Oil along with EVOO / Grapeseed - Not on-top of the other oils, but in the same small amount. imvho, that would be great. I personally believe EVCO is much healthier & was what I mostly used doing it on the alternatives
Btw, fwiw, I would vote "rest" if you are feeling any discomfort (says the person who wears a knee brace to run...) - but obviously, use your judgements :D

I skipped getting up at 5:30 to run this morning - I woke up but when I saw it was 37 and foggy / light rain reset the alarm. I am still stuffy, but feeling much better than I did Friday / Saturday morning. Still, figured I didn't need to spend an hour in the damp/cold and risk aggravating my immune system.

I've been faithful with the FloNase but also started drinking hot fresh lemon juice / ginger slice tea - and taking an extra 5,000mg vitamin D in the morning.

I am heading down to sweat it out on the treadmill in a minute.

DH is still having issues - I asked him last night if things don't markedly improve by tomorrow to go back to Kaiser and insist on an MRI...I was trying to message the area a bit and it still hurts to put pressure on the back of the heel / Achilles :( we're only 13 days from the Cherry Blossom 10 miler & it's really looking like he may have to give up his bib :(

trying to bite my tongue right now in the Phase4 forever group on the book- sorry for being so f'n stupid by saying that muscle doesn't weigh more than fat- I worded it wrong and ---arrrgh just having one of those days at work

and I have been schooled-

Re the coconut oil. I asked one of the moderators in the Alternatives group if she could get more info on this. She knows a few coaches and her chiropractor has an IP clinic. She's going to look into it, but she said there was some talk at an IP event last year about changing the protocol to include coconut oil. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

On that same topic - a woman on the IP FB page said her coach told her she couldn't use coconut oil on her skin because it would be absorbed as calories. Out of what bodily orifice do these coaches pull this kind of stuff??

I'm laying low today. Pelvis is just too twinge-y to feel okay about walking. It was so nice to have 4 pain free days. I'm thinking more and more that I have only two options: 1) do some mild/moderate exercise to keep my fitness up but have a longer healing time, OR 2) do nothing and heal faster, but have to start from Ground Zero when I can run again. Two bad choices. :(