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canadjineh 09-02-2014 04:51 AM

A totally absorbing read, y'all! I realize from reading this that I have some things to be very grateful for. I have been lucky enough to realize I needed to tweak my food amounts and timing before things got truly out of hand and I have never been very overweight throughout my whole lifetime and have always loved healthy food. That certainly makes it much easier to maintain since I never had metabolic syndrome. If you know someone who seems to be on their way up the scale, please try to convince them to do something about it now! I agree with 65x65... as I am 50 - only a pup yet, lol... don't waste the precious time you have as we never know when it will be cut short.
It will be my 6 month maintenance anni in a couple days...

Liana :carrot::carrot::carrot:

mamarenee 09-02-2014 08:00 AM

Great thread. Very helpful but I wonder what my best plan for a re start is?? This is my 2nd maintainence. My weight was down to 180 when I started maintainence before summer and today I weigh in at 195. It blows my mind how fast the weight returns and the "feeling fat" feeling returns.
What do you suggest for a re boot. Strict phase 2....
This morning I had a quest bar and 2 hard boiled eggs. For lunch I plan cucumber and tuna. (I'm sure I'll be starving!)
can I lose 15 pounds on phase 2 and 3
Help! I'm flailing. And failing" (((((((

65X65 09-02-2014 10:45 AM

Everyone is different...not only in metabolism but in how one might react to support... Knowing yourself is the only way to work out a steady line of behavior modification that is going to get you to the finish line. Being too easy on oneself is poison to most of us...or there would not be such an enormous group of people striving to find the way to achieve that end. Being too hard can be a de-motivator to others...

Among the reading one does to prepare for maintenance, I suggest the ginews.com site and the laura dolson "about.com" low carb diets. Both send out news and info. regularly. ginews.com is generally a few times a year (...maybe every 3-4 months), and the older editions are all on line. But, it is packed with incredible info, the latest from The Univ of Sydney in Australia, where most of the research has and is being done on low carb. Laura Dolson's newsletters have a lot of practical info...including a low carb pyramid.

Recently one of them had an article about regain and one of the facts is that as we become smaller...we burn less calories. No brainer...we all know that. But there is the benefit from exercise and muscle building that gives us a break in that muscle takes more calories to maintain...and exercise esp weight training early in the day allows your engine to rev...and burn more all day. These are two things it's a good idea to incorporate in maintenance...

**...and really..the P1-2-3 phases are truly OK to get the habit established.

The key is low impact and moderately low intensity to start. There was even a paragraph in one of the recent readings I did about "losing with out exercising"... and about how the lack of building muscle is a sure way to regain....

...and yes, I know there is a mentality one does not or should not exercise when on IP... But my Chiro encouraged it after week 6-8 and said building muscle was essential to maintenance. And indeed, even continued weight loss as the program progressed was dependent on building muscle. That was supported by the article I speak of ( which I will try to find and post a link) ...and my own experience. I did low impact circuit and cardio 6 days a week at a ladies gym that specializes in circuit training from about the 10th week on in my journey. Recently though, I felt I need more; so joined another gym where my husband goes...and upped my routine. I still do the ladies gym5 days a week, but now go to SNAP Fitness which is open 24-7. Am finding it is easier to get a harder workout there. I go 2X a week for 1.5 hrs and have increased my endurance and muscle since I began this. It is not fun...I must say..I hate exercise..DRD,Canadjineh, maile and many others love it..God bless you! I hate not maintaining more than I hate the exercise and like the scale and daily weighing....FINALLY..LOL...HAVE MADE MY PEACE WITH THE EXERCISE AS WELL!!

And lastly, it is CRITICALLY important to understand how the IP program moves us into ketosis. Learning that the packets are not magic is essential in being able to maintain FOR LIFE with real food. Knowing calories, and nutritional values from an IP meal...(esp understanding IP dinners and P2 lunch.) This kind of eating is going to keep you where you need to be, but it is not magic. Some like the my fitness pal or other on line tools. I find them cumbersome and do fine logging in my head. What ever works for you. However; I do have rules for myself about what I will and won't eat 98% of the time...and shop accordingly. It's easier to keep some foods out of the house than it is to resist. Even if you have kids...it can be done to a high degree. Plus..they will learn that things like ice cream french fries and other less healthy foods are not something they should go to as a first thought for meals or snacks. Doesn't mean they can't have them ever...it just means teaching them and practicing: "We don't normally buy " those things"...but you can have them when you are out...occasionally, and we don't freak out about it...we just know better". People with kids who have allergies to nuts, are diagnosed with celiac or have other dietary restrictions limit what is in their groc cart out of necessity ...people who are determined to maintain a healthy foods in the home mentality refrain from certain foods by choice...This is not a bad life skill to pass on to the kids. Do you want them to suffer as you did??

Well..off to make gluten free gazpacho for my book group dinner tonight! They call me the "soup lady"....It keeps me on my game... And ensures I have something I want to eat at the gathering. Some things will not change...and that is not bad!


EDIT: http://ginews.blogspot.com

jemma51 09-02-2014 11:16 AM

This thread is a good read and really makes you think. We all have an addiction " food". Because we cannot simply go to rehab and give up our addiction we have to figure out the fine line of eating what we should instead of mindlessly putting food into our mouths. I know I will struggle with this forever and truly fear maintenance. I have lost and kept weight off for a year at most. I am hoping that this time I will finally be able to focus on the feeling of how awesomely great it feels to be thinner instead of the sensation of how good something may taste. I have so much self loathing when I am heavy that those thoughts consume my whole life. I don't want to ever feel that way again. I was on IP last year and lost some weight but I don't think I took it as serious as I am this time. Plus, I had a health screening and the women who took my blood pressure said that if she could legally take me by the hand to the ER due to my blood pressure she would. At that time I hated myself for the way I looked and felt and what she said sent it home for me. I had to do something and really take it seriously. I also agree with everyone that please do it now. I am 53 and losing now is much harder than when I was younger. I would assume that your skin may bounce back better too. LOl

schenectady 09-02-2014 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65X65 (Post 5063973)
Everyone is different...not only in metabolism but in how one might react to support... Knowing yourself is the only way to work out a steady line of behavior modification that is going to get you to the finish line. Being too easy on oneself is poison to most of us...or there would not be such an enormous group of people striving to find the way to achieve that end. Being too hard can be a de-motivator to others...

Among the reading one does to prepare for maintenance, I suggest the ginews.com site and the laura dolson "about.com" low carb diets. Both send out news and info. regularly. ginews.com is generally a few times a year (...maybe every 3-4 months), and the older editions are all on line. But, it is packed with incredible info, the latest from The Univ of Sydney in Australia, where most of the research has and is being done on low carb. Laura Dolson's newsletters have a lot of practical info...including a low carb pyramid.

Recently one of them had an article about regain and one of the facts is that as we become smaller...we burn less calories. No brainer...we all know that. But there is the benefit from exercise and muscle building that gives us a break in that muscle takes more calories to maintain...and exercise esp weight training early in the day allows your engine to rev...and burn more all day. These are two things it's a good idea to incorporate in maintenance...

**...and really..the P1-2-3 phases are truly OK to get the habit established.

The key is low impact and moderately low intensity to start. There was even a paragraph in one of the recent readings I did about "losing with out exercising"... and about how the lack of building muscle is a sure way to regain....

...and yes, I know there is a mentality one does not or should not exercise when on IP... But my Chiro encouraged it after week 6-8 and said building muscle was essential to maintenance. And indeed, even continued weight loss as the program progressed was dependent on building muscle. That was supported by the article I speak of ( which I will try to find and post a link) ...and my own experience. I did low impact circuit and cardio 6 days a week at a ladies gym that specializes in circuit training from about the 10th week on in my journey. Recently though, I felt I need more; so joined another gym where my husband goes...and upped my routine. I still do the ladies gym5 days a week, but now go to SNAP Fitness which is open 24-7. Am finding it is easier to get a harder workout there. I go 2X a week for 1.5 hrs and have increased my endurance and muscle since I began this. It is not fun...I must say..I hate exercise..DRD,Canadjineh, maile and many others love it..God bless you! I hate not maintaining more than I hate the exercise and like the scale and daily weighing....FINALLY..LOL...HAVE MADE MY PEACE WITH THE EXERCISE AS WELL!!

And lastly, it is CRITICALLY important to understand how the IP program moves us into ketosis. Learning that the packets are not magic is essential in being able to maintain FOR LIFE with real food. Knowing calories, and nutritional values from an IP meal...(esp understanding IP dinners and P2 lunch.) This kind of eating is going to keep you where you need to be, but it is not magic. Some like the my fitness pal or other on line tools. I find them cumbersome and do fine logging in my head. What ever works for you. However; I do have rules for myself about what I will and won't eat 98% of the time...and shop accordingly. It's easier to keep some foods out of the house than it is to resist. Even if you have kids...it can be done to a high degree. Plus..they will learn that things like ice cream french fries and other less healthy foods are not something they should go to as a first thought for meals or snacks. Doesn't mean they can't have them ever...it just means teaching them and practicing: "We don't normally buy " those things"...but you can have them when you are out...occasionally, and we don't freak out about it...we just know better". People with kids who have allergies to nuts, are diagnosed with celiac or have other dietary restrictions limit what is in their groc cart out of necessity ...people who are determined to maintain a healthy foods in the home mentality refrain from certain foods by choice...This is not a bad life skill to pass on to the kids. Do you want them to suffer as you did??

Well..off to make gluten free gazpacho for my book group dinner tonight! They call me the "soup lady"....It keeps me on my game... And ensures I have something I want to eat at the gathering. Some things will not change...and that is not bad!


EDIT: http://ginews.blogspot.com

Just signed up for the GI News email newsletter - thanks for the recommend. I find that the more I read, the easier it is to stay motivated and on the program. I am working my way through Grain Drain right now which gives me incredible motivation to stay away from those kinds of carbs. Very enlightening and a little scary in terms of what we as individuals and as a society are doing to our brain and bodies.

Bellamack 09-02-2014 01:52 PM

OP I am in the same boat, in 2011 I reached goal and gained it all back and just keep going up and down since.

I also believe it is an "addiction" but not like any other, it is as strong as a heroin addiction, but you must eat to live, you don't need any heroin to live, that is why it is so hard. When I am stressed I eat, when I am depressed I eat, etc. I think it is somewhat better than taking a drink, drug or smoke, but the reality is; being overweight is also "bad" for general health

the one good thing about this thread is that I don't feel as bad about myself as I did before reading it. I too have been avoiding social events out of embarrassment
moving forward and thank you for all your honest, heartfelt posts

scorbett1103 09-02-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellamack (Post 5064084)
OP I am in the same boat, in 2011 I reached goal and gained it all back and just keep going up and down since.

I also believe it is an "addiction" but not like any other, it is as strong as a heroin addiction, but you must eat to live, you don't need any heroin to live, that is why it is so hard. When I am stressed I eat, when I am depressed I eat, etc. I think it is somewhat better than taking a drink, drug or smoke, but the reality is; being overweight is also "bad" for general health

the one good thing about this thread is that I don't feel as bad about myself as I did before reading it. I too have been avoiding social events out of embarrassment
moving forward and thank you for all your honest, heartfelt posts

Hi Bella! There's a few of us "past timers" back for a reboot :)

SkyeAvery 09-02-2014 02:08 PM

Like your post was meant for me:)
 
I have "lurked" on this board for over a year when I began my IP journey. I was always an active, fit person but wasn't feeling comfortable with my body. I got to my lowest weight since I was in high school & was feeling so good about myself & my 25 lb weight loss. I phased off in February of this year &...long story short weighed myself this morning to be faced with the fact that I'm right back where I started. Then, checked the 3FC site & immediately came across this thread that seemed to be written just for me! Like many of you, I am restarting my IP journey with the knowledge of what didn't work last time in the back of my mind. I wish us all the strength & tenacity to make this journey a successful one.

scorbett1103 09-02-2014 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyeAvery (Post 5064091)
I have "lurked" on this board for over a year when I began my IP journey. I was always an active, fit person but wasn't feeling comfortable with my body. I got to my lowest weight since I was in high school & was feeling so good about myself & my 25 lb weight loss. I phased off in February of this year &...long story short weighed myself this morning to be faced with the fact that I'm right back where I started. Then, checked the 3FC site & immediately came across this thread that seemed to be written just for me! Like many of you, I am restarting my IP journey with the knowledge of what didn't work last time in the back of my mind. I wish us all the strength & tenacity to make this journey a successful one.

We got this!

Bellamack 09-02-2014 02:21 PM

Scorbett I have missed you :)

scorbett1103 09-02-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellamack (Post 5064098)
Scorbett I have missed you :)

:hug::hug::hug:

disgal 09-02-2014 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorbett1103 (Post 5064087)
Hi Bella! There's a few of us "past timers" back for a reboot :)

Hi Bella!! :wave: Welcome to the reboot!!:carrot:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyeAvery (Post 5064091)
I have "lurked" on this board for over a year when I began my IP journey. I was always an active, fit person but wasn't feeling comfortable with my body. I got to my lowest weight since I was in high school & was feeling so good about myself & my 25 lb weight loss. I phased off in February of this year &...long story short weighed myself this morning to be faced with the fact that I'm right back where I started. Then, checked the 3FC site & immediately came across this thread that seemed to be written just for me! Like many of you, I am restarting my IP journey with the knowledge of what didn't work last time in the back of my mind. I wish us all the strength & tenacity to make this journey a successful one.

We are all so blessed to have this site..... and support from one another!!!:grouphug:

65X65......all I can say is WOW!!!:hug:

DanafromAustin 09-02-2014 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellamack (Post 5064084)
I too have been avoiding social events out of embarrassment
moving forward and thank you for all your honest, heartfelt posts

Besides all of the new clothes after I lost 95 pounds not fitting anymore, I think the worst part is the embarrassment I feel at times when I see people I haven't seen in a year or so. They of course haven't said anything, but they can't help but notice how much I have gained back. This time I'm not telling anyone I'm back on IP. They will just notice as I start to lose again.

We can do this... we did it before. :hug:

Lucy1014 09-02-2014 03:26 PM

Hi all,

This is a great thread. Today is my first day of IP and this was at the top of the discussion list when I created my 3FC account. The OP really hit home for me. I have not done IP before, but for the past 10 years or so I have been losing and regaining weight constantly, usually regaining more than I lost! Last bout was WW, which worked slowly but surely until I stopped following the program. I am a chronic dieter and have tried everything.

I know lots of people who have had success with IP and I hope I will have a success story to share a year from now as well. My problem has always been maintenance - as soon as I get to goal I go back to my old ways of eating and start gaining again. I do hope this time will be different and IP seems to have good plans in place for maintenance.

Lots of love and support to everyone who has shared that they are either restarting IP or restarting their weight loss journeys as newbies on IP - we can do it!

Lucy

Bellamack 09-02-2014 03:40 PM

Hi disgal & Dana, we will move forward and not look back

One thing I must do is to hop on 3FC everyday, if only for a few minutes :)


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