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Old 02-26-2013, 03:07 PM   #31  
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I use IP products only .
Started June 2012 - January 31st 2013 reached Goal...went from 212lbs -120 lbs. decided to continue to reach lower goal !
Now am presently 114.8 lbs.
I am truly blessed I have an Awesome very successful coach that is well liked and loved by her clients.
She inspires them ...but they have to buy into the program and work it!

I have never been Berated and have Always felt supported and encouraged!
My Coach convinced me to give IP a chance I was heading in another direction and had already been pre certified .
I will always be grateful she convinced me of the possibilities!

I think I got the results that I was looking for and in a short timeframe !

You can't Argue with results when staying IP!

She really also impressed upon me having Positive mindset was an integral part of the process.

She was right !

I have enjoyed the journey .

We all have struggles in life it 's the way that we choose to deal with them that makes the difference.

I am so grateful to Ideal Protein ! it gave me back my old self!
I wish everyone great success on your goals !
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:17 PM   #32  
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Wow.... I really did not mean for this to become so heated.

I've only been doing this for 3 weeks so I'm still learning. I had no idea I could be dropped for using alternative, I was never given the laws of IP. The only reason I got the idea for EAS was from the 3FC forum.... and it was something I considered mainly because I am on the road all day for my job and there is a convenience there for me if I cannot make a packet.

It's not a cost thing for me, I don't have a problem with IP products. Sincerely, it was convenience and the great advice I receive from people like Scorbett who has been tremendous help in the process.

I'm definitely caught off guard by some comments here suggesting I leave the program if I don't like it. Not encouraging by any means but I guess if that works for your clients, have at it.

I know for me, since dropping the restricted and adding EAS shake IF I need it, my weight loss went from 3.5 to 5.8 in a week's time. I can't say for sure that's what it is, but it's something to consider as every BODY is different and responds differently to IP.

Lots to think about here. I appreciate everyone's feedback and support that gave it, it's great to hear everyone's experience and input on the subject so that I know how the IP system works moreso than what I was informed.
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The reason for no substitutions is because if you start messing with the protocal we can not predict your weight loss. It you do it the way it was designed they you will loose an average of 3-7lbs per week. Once you start deviating we can't control the outcome. It has nothing to do wanting you to spend money only on our products. And yes of course this is a business but when you look at all the food that is being taken out of your diet we need to make sure that you are getting the neccessary things put back in. If you don't like the way Ideal Protein runs their program then I would recommend you go lose weight a different way.
There are too many variables to predict the outcome!
So many hormones and neurotransmitters involved in weight loss (start with Cortisol & Leptin, but I could go on), add amount of sodium eaten, things like constipation, different medical conditions/medications being taken...even a well-trained medical professional who specializes in obesity can't predict weekly weight loss. It isn't a "given" and it definitely isn't linear!

Don't kid yourself about the 3-7 lb weight loss...the US FDA made them take it out so they could advertise. It IS all about the almighty $$. There is nothing wrong with having a business, but it is time to be honest. If you're going to come in here and berate people for trying to save some $$$, make sure you have your facts in order.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:01 PM   #34  
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I know for me, since dropping the restricted and adding EAS shake IF I need it, my weight loss went from 3.5 to 5.8 in a week's time. I can't say for sure that's what it is, but it's something to consider as every BODY is different and responds differently to IP.
Just a note - it's very important to understand the difference between fat loss and weight loss.

I repeat this over and over because it is a truly critical point everyone should understand because the big measure of progress is the scale.

Weight loss is not linear. It's sometimes unpredictable.

My simple point is you didn't go from 3.5 to 5.8 lbs of weight loss because of adding in EAS shake and dropping restricted. Next week you could have a 2 lb losee under the exact same conditions.

Fat loss is fairly linear and is an equation of energy. Energy is measured in calories.

Weight loss is much more complex and with women it literally can change based on the cycle of the moon...
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There are too many variables to predict the outcome!
So many hormones and neurotransmitters involved in weight loss (start with Cortisol & Leptin, but I could go on), add amount of sodium eaten, things like constipation, different medical conditions/medications being taken...even a well-trained medical professional who specializes in obesity can't predict weekly weight loss. It isn't a "given" and it definitely isn't linear!
You're not kidding! Weight loss on a weekly basis is impossible to predict, by anyone.

The good news is that weight loss week to week doesn't matter, but of course there is promotional advertising to consider.
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The reason for no substitutions is because if you start messing with the protocal we can not predict your weight loss. It you do it the way it was designed they you will loose an average of 3-7lbs per week. Once you start deviating we can't control the outcome. It has nothing to do wanting you to spend money only on our products. And yes of course this is a business but when you look at all the food that is being taken out of your diet we need to make sure that you are getting the neccessary things put back in. If you don't like the way Ideal Protein runs their program then I would recommend you go lose weight a different way.
"If you don't like the way Ideal Protein runs their program then I would recommend you go lose weight a different way." Little harsh don't you think??????

Apparently you are a business owner/coach because nobody on this forum as dieters talks to people in the manner that you just spoke. Look at Wuv's comment above. Total supporter of either way as long as the person is being supported and losing weight to get healthy and fit and reach their goals. That's truly LOVE (WUV), not a business.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:14 PM   #37  
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I am going to leave this thread and I do hope you all have great success in your weight loss journey. I feel as though through these messages I have been misunderstood. I am a great coach and have great success with all my dieters! I hope that you all continue in your own weightloss journey! Best of luck!!
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I am in Auburn but I used to Coach at Bothell Chiropractic and Wellness with Dr Dusty. I know you have been in contact with her. She has the most amazing office. You will not believe it when you see it! She has her own gym now for IP dieters. She has done a great job there!
Just had to say that I'm thoroughly disgusted with your original comments. I actually am at Dr DuBois IP clinic and none of the coaches have acted like you do.

You may not feel you were attacking anybody or no harm in your comments, but it was. All of us are trying to achieve a goal and for a coach to come on the forum and say that if you don't like...take a hike is crazy.
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Just had to say that I'm thoroughly disgusted with your original comments. I actually am at Dr DuBois IP clinic and none of the coaches have acted like you do.
I'm not a defender of IP but I personally think your hyperbole here is worse than the person you're critcizing.

Nifferg91 is merely repeating the company mantra (inaccurate though it may be) and while she is clearly has room to grow and learn I don't believe she was being mean spiritied. I just don't think she knows any better.
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AMEN! LOL

And we are on the IP forums because we follow the IP plan. Even if we don't use the food, we love the support and to not be told to go away and do something else if we can't afford IP.
Thank you for your support I am unemployed and cannot afford IP. Allot of people have been nice to me on this site and I couldnt have done it without you
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:56 PM   #41  
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Wow!! so much for the positive energy on this forum. Let's blame it on the no carbs! kidding kidding.

I have been on IP for 4 weeks now. My coach has only given me Proti-Diet food. She used to and still does sell some IP products. But she likes Proti-Diet better. the Program is the same, but the food is essentially a different brand. And as of last week (3 weeks in) I'm down 15 lbs and 11 inches. So I think, in generality, we all are losing weight in our ways by tweeking this and that... and blah blah blah.

Yes we are all eating pretty much the same food, but you have to remember, we have all cut out sugar, bread, pasta, rice, and certain fats. I think that alone, would allow us to lose weight. The Ideal Protein program is making our lives a little easier. If it wasn't for the program itself, I don't think any one of us would be happy. ( IE:Really I can't have chocolate for 6-8 months while I'm trying to lose weight)... really how realistic is that? I'm going to eat a Proti-Diet chocolate peanut butter bar.. yay chocolate It's helping us curb our cravings. Come on, really, we can't even eat any fruit for Goodness sakes!!

At the end of the day I beleive: IP and alternative foods, make our weight loss goals a little easier to achieve because cutting out the foods that are "no good" for you for a very long period of time... It would be an epic fail for all of us.
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I'm not a defender of IP but I personally think your hyperbole here is worse than the person you're critcizing.

Nifferg91 is merely repeating the company mantra (inaccurate though it may be) and while she is clearly has room to grow and learn I don't believe she was being mean spiritied. I just don't think she knows any better.
No hyperbole here. I really was disgusted.
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Agree.

In my experience, most people with a weight problem significant enough to bring them to this plan have been berated and accused and suspected and blamed for their weight issues over and over again. They have been made to feel inferior and to feel ashamed and to feel set apart for too long. IP coaches (as well as mere commentators on forums) would do well to remember that. People need support, understanding, and encouragement. Most of that can be accomplished in the way to speak to people, regardless of corporate policy. I will no longer hand over money to anyone who makes me feel bad about myself . . . whether I am buying enough of their products or not.
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My two cents....7 lbs a week on a consistent basis is UNREAL and UNHEALTHY! Everybody knows that deep down inside. You may have a few good plummets if you have a lot to lose, but NOBODY will consistently lose 7 lbs a week!
I don't support any coaches out there who belittle and harsh their dieters. Shame on them for abusing their so called power. Shame! They are hired to be helpful not nasty! There is constructive criticism and then there are just jerks who think they are something by being a coach. Really? Rethink that!
This site has many unpaid coaches here who are doing exactly what they should be...providing info and support. I strongly think a Dr following you is more important than a paid coach!
Thanks to my coaches here! They have been a lifesaver and I appreciate it!
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Just had to say that I'm thoroughly disgusted with your original comments. I actually am at Dr DuBois IP clinic and none of the coaches have acted like you do.

You may not feel you were attacking anybody or no harm in your comments, but it was. All of us are trying to achieve a goal and for a coach to come on the forum and say that if you don't like...take a hike is crazy.
I couldn't agree with you with more. Thank you for saying what I couldn't.
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