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Old 01-14-2013, 02:18 PM   #16  
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Gotcha, but what I was having a problem with was her doctor indicating that she should have been gaining weight on a 1000 calorie diet, vs. [perhaps] merely retaining more water. Based on everything I've read, gaining weight in this scenario is highly unlikely. Even more so than that, her doctor's statement holds absolutely no weight when you look at ALM2000's actual results over the last 13 weeks. Those results speak for themselves, IMNSHO.
Oh absolutely And honestly, I'm a little shocked that a medical professional couldn't do the math and figure out that even if you ate a restricted three times a day it wouldn't be enough calories in a week to gain a pound of actual fat. It's just a symptom of the epidemic that I see - people administering IP but not really having any clue how or why it works.
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And honestly, I'm a little shocked that a medical professional couldn't do the math and figure out that even if you ate a restricted three times a day it wouldn't be enough calories in a week to gain a pound of actual fat. It's just a symptom of the epidemic that I see - people administering IP but not really having any clue how or why it works.
Agreed!! Sometimes I really have to wonder about the 'professionals' who are supposedly the [paid] experts!
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:06 PM   #18  
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Paid yes.
Experts, no.
I give a little laugh whenever someone says "my doctor wants me to eat..."
Doctors don't even get one full class on nutrition in med school! Unless they have done outside study, they have no right to open their mouths at all.

If my Dr offered an opinion on my eating, I'd have to ask him if he were following it. Because just LOOKING at him, you know he isn't!
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:34 PM   #19  
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Thank you everyone for all your insight. I'm the type who gains weight pretty quickly taking in carbs. But I do agree that my doc was exaggerating or his statement was medically incorrect.

I asked the doc to update the sheet to highlight or mark R for restricted as you all have suggested.

Again, thanks!
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My clinic also allows us to buy individual packets. To help identify restricted v non-restricted, they put a colored sticker on the individual restricted packets. If your clinic doesn't pre-mark restricted for you, you could add stickers (I've ripped address labels apart to use when they missed one) or use a marker to help keep things straight at home.
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Oops! I consider it THEIR fault for not educating you better!
My coach gave me a product list and all the restricted were highlighted in gray.
So all whites were unrestricted.
Grays were one/day
Dark grays/once per week

It was really helpful at first. Now I don't even refer to the sheet, unless I'm trying to figure out what I haven't had in a while...
OMG! Which ones are one per week? I've never heard that before. Panic! Panic!
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OMG! Which ones are one per week? I've never heard that before. Panic! Panic!
Oh no! Don't panic. It's one of the things i don't eat and the info is in the other room. I have a project for work spread all around my laptop. Can't get up right now! I think it is the Spaghetti.

Someone will clarify/correct me if I'm wrong.
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The ones that are restricted to only 1 per week are the chili and spaghetti.
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Yes. I'm pretty carb sensitive.
I wasn't sure when I started IP if I'd be able to have the restricted or not. In the past I've only lost at 25 net or lower (and yes, at a calorie deficit, as well)
It is REALLY not only calories-in/calories-out for some of us. The hormones (insulin, leptin, cortisol, to name a few) play a MUCH bigger role for some of us than for others.
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OMG! Which ones are one per week? I've never heard that before. Panic! Panic!
I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
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Okay, different answers made me get up!
My coach only lists the spaghetti as super-restricted (no more than 2x/week)
I HAVE heard of coaches listing choc chip cookie as super restricted but mine doesn't. She's a regional rep and goes by IP corporate.
I had to look b/c I don't eat any of it!

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I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
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The ones that are restricted to only 1 per week are the chili and spaghetti.
The only IP product that is super restricted is the Spaghetti Bolognese, and it is limited to 2x per week. Here's the June 2012 Phase 1 protocol sheet:
http://www.idealtogo.com/Library/Fase%201%20-%20ITG.pdf

The Spaghetti has 17g net carbs. The chili only has 9g net carbs, and the cookie has 14g net carbs.
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I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
EEK! I've been eating the cookies more than twice a week too!

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Its okay. IP does NOT have cookies listed as super restricted. That is only certain coaches.
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The only super-restricted food is the spaghetti bolognese, limited to 2/week.
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The ones that are restricted to only 1 per week are the chili and spaghetti.
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I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
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Okay, different answers made me get up!
My coach only lists the spaghetti as super-restricted (no more than 2x/week)
I HAVE heard of coaches listing choc chip cookie as super restricted but mine doesn't. She's a regional rep and goes by IP corporate.
I had to look b/c I don't eat any of it!
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The only IP product that is super restricted is the Spaghetti Bolognese, and it is limited to 2x per week. Here's the June 2012 Phase 1 protocol sheet:
http://www.idealtogo.com/Library/Fase%201%20-%20ITG.pdf

The Spaghetti has 17g net carbs. The chili only has 9g net carbs, and the cookie has 14g net carbs.
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The only super-restricted food is the spaghetti bolognese, limited to 2/week.
Thanks everyone! Lucky for me I don't eat any of the restricted and limited or even the suspected ones. I didn't even realize that list was on their protocol sheet, I guess I should review it every now and then.
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