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01-14-2013, 02:18 PM
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Reboot 9/2014
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 4,856
S/C/G: 198.6/173/165
Height: 5' 8"
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Originally Posted by bubbleblower
Gotcha, but what I was having a problem with was her doctor indicating that she should have been gaining weight on a 1000 calorie diet, vs. [perhaps] merely retaining more water. Based on everything I've read, gaining weight in this scenario is highly unlikely. Even more so than that, her doctor's statement holds absolutely no weight when you look at ALM2000's actual results over the last 13 weeks. Those results speak for themselves, IMNSHO.
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Oh absolutely And honestly, I'm a little shocked that a medical professional couldn't do the math and figure out that even if you ate a restricted three times a day it wouldn't be enough calories in a week to gain a pound of actual fat. It's just a symptom of the epidemic that I see - people administering IP but not really having any clue how or why it works.
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01-14-2013, 02:56 PM
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#17
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Started IP 12/6/12
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 653
S/C/G: 174/137/134
Height: 5'8"
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Originally Posted by scorbett1103
And honestly, I'm a little shocked that a medical professional couldn't do the math and figure out that even if you ate a restricted three times a day it wouldn't be enough calories in a week to gain a pound of actual fat. It's just a symptom of the epidemic that I see - people administering IP but not really having any clue how or why it works.
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Agreed!! Sometimes I really have to wonder about the 'professionals' who are supposedly the [paid] experts!
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01-14-2013, 03:06 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,219
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Paid yes.
Experts, no.
I give a little laugh whenever someone says "my doctor wants me to eat..."
Doctors don't even get one full class on nutrition in med school! Unless they have done outside study, they have no right to open their mouths at all.
If my Dr offered an opinion on my eating, I'd have to ask him if he were following it. Because just LOOKING at him, you know he isn't!
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01-14-2013, 08:34 PM
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#19
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Started IP on 10/2/2012
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: California
Posts: 70
S/C/G: 166.2/108/105
Height: 5'2.5"
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Thank you everyone for all your insight. I'm the type who gains weight pretty quickly taking in carbs. But I do agree that my doc was exaggerating or his statement was medically incorrect.
I asked the doc to update the sheet to highlight or mark R for restricted as you all have suggested.
Again, thanks!
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01-14-2013, 09:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 237
S/C/G: 337/164/160
Height: 5' 6.5" ('cuz the .5 counts!)
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My clinic also allows us to buy individual packets. To help identify restricted v non-restricted, they put a colored sticker on the individual restricted packets. If your clinic doesn't pre-mark restricted for you, you could add stickers (I've ripped address labels apart to use when they missed one) or use a marker to help keep things straight at home.
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01-14-2013, 10:06 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 275
S/C/G: 210/145/145
Height: 5'4"
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Originally Posted by lisa32989
Oops! I consider it THEIR fault for not educating you better!
My coach gave me a product list and all the restricted were highlighted in gray.
So all whites were unrestricted.
Grays were one/day
Dark grays/once per week
It was really helpful at first. Now I don't even refer to the sheet, unless I'm trying to figure out what I haven't had in a while...
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OMG! Which ones are one per week? I've never heard that before. Panic! Panic!
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01-14-2013, 10:16 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,219
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Originally Posted by rofl306
OMG! Which ones are one per week? I've never heard that before. Panic! Panic!
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Oh no! Don't panic. It's one of the things i don't eat and the info is in the other room. I have a project for work spread all around my laptop. Can't get up right now! I think it is the Spaghetti.
Someone will clarify/correct me if I'm wrong.
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01-14-2013, 10:16 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 408
S/C/G: 206/186/160
Height: 5"2
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The ones that are restricted to only 1 per week are the chili and spaghetti.
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01-14-2013, 10:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posts: 1,281
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Originally Posted by lisa32989
Yes. I'm pretty carb sensitive.
I wasn't sure when I started IP if I'd be able to have the restricted or not. In the past I've only lost at 25 net or lower (and yes, at a calorie deficit, as well)
It is REALLY not only calories-in/calories-out for some of us. The hormones (insulin, leptin, cortisol, to name a few) play a MUCH bigger role for some of us than for others.
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YES!!! LIKE LIKE LIKE!!!
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Originally Posted by rofl306
OMG! Which ones are one per week? I've never heard that before. Panic! Panic!
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I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
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01-14-2013, 10:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,219
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Okay, different answers made me get up!
My coach only lists the spaghetti as super-restricted (no more than 2x/week)
I HAVE heard of coaches listing choc chip cookie as super restricted but mine doesn't. She's a regional rep and goes by IP corporate.
I had to look b/c I don't eat any of it!
Last edited by lisa32989; 01-14-2013 at 10:28 PM.
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01-14-2013, 10:32 PM
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#26
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Reboot 9/2014
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 4,856
S/C/G: 198.6/173/165
Height: 5' 8"
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Originally Posted by mompattie
YES!!! LIKE LIKE LIKE!!!
I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
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Originally Posted by Yesmyqueen
The ones that are restricted to only 1 per week are the chili and spaghetti.
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The only IP product that is super restricted is the Spaghetti Bolognese, and it is limited to 2x per week. Here's the June 2012 Phase 1 protocol sheet:
http://www.idealtogo.com/Library/Fase%201%20-%20ITG.pdf
The Spaghetti has 17g net carbs. The chili only has 9g net carbs, and the cookie has 14g net carbs.
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01-15-2013, 01:17 AM
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#27
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Started IP on 10/2/2012
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: California
Posts: 70
S/C/G: 166.2/108/105
Height: 5'2.5"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mompattie
YES!!! LIKE LIKE LIKE!!!
I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
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EEK! I've been eating the cookies more than twice a week too!
Last edited by ALM2000; 01-15-2013 at 01:18 AM.
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01-15-2013, 07:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,219
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Its okay. IP does NOT have cookies listed as super restricted. That is only certain coaches.
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01-15-2013, 10:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,850
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Height: 5'6"
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The only super-restricted food is the spaghetti bolognese, limited to 2/week.
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01-15-2013, 01:05 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 275
S/C/G: 210/145/145
Height: 5'4"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yesmyqueen
The ones that are restricted to only 1 per week are the chili and spaghetti.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mompattie
YES!!! LIKE LIKE LIKE!!!
I think spaghetti bolognese and choc chip cookie are from the 2x/week group. I only pick 2 individual cookies as my clinic sells individual packs. I don't buy bars anymore. Not enough control over them yet, but two cookies I can manage. One mon one thurs.
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Originally Posted by lisa32989
Okay, different answers made me get up!
My coach only lists the spaghetti as super-restricted (no more than 2x/week)
I HAVE heard of coaches listing choc chip cookie as super restricted but mine doesn't. She's a regional rep and goes by IP corporate.
I had to look b/c I don't eat any of it!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scorbett1103
The only IP product that is super restricted is the Spaghetti Bolognese, and it is limited to 2x per week. Here's the June 2012 Phase 1 protocol sheet:
http://www.idealtogo.com/Library/Fase%201%20-%20ITG.pdf
The Spaghetti has 17g net carbs. The chili only has 9g net carbs, and the cookie has 14g net carbs.
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Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie
The only super-restricted food is the spaghetti bolognese, limited to 2/week.
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Thanks everyone! Lucky for me I don't eat any of the restricted and limited or even the suspected ones. I didn't even realize that list was on their protocol sheet, I guess I should review it every now and then.
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