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Old 06-24-2002, 11:50 PM   #166  
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Tiger, here is that link for Susan Powter and her new product...

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Good Morning all!

I got on to post yesterday morning but the board was closed for maintenance. Hope you're all doing well.

Welcome, Cafe and Puma!

As most of you already know I've had a rough week and a half and the scale has gone up a few pounds. I am also PMSing and have been eating chocolate cupcakes that I bought for my kids ad Sams Club like they are going out of business! Big mistake.........I should know better than to bring that kind of stuff in the house, my kids don't need it any more than I do. Hopefully they will all be gone soon and I won't have to hear them calling my name again.

I've gotten too far behind for the shout outs, so have a great day everyone.

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Good Morning All!
You are right Huntress, kids don't need it either. I'm having problems in that department myself. Kids and DH are still craving all the junk that I used to buy. I allow very little of it in the houe now.
I bought a new scale about a month ago. Before that, I had the talking scale from **** too! I really like the new digital, even if I don't always like the number I see.
Hi Puma, welcome! Do you count your calories? If they are too low, you are going to have cravings for high calorie food. I'd suggest raising your intake of good healthy foods if your calories are low. At the same time, don't deprive yourself a treat now and then!
I'm still sport'n this lovely cold. So, not getting much exercise. Can't breath through my nose! And, ears are plugged, not much balance! But, still trying to keep my eat'n under control.
Good luck to everyone today!
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Tig,

Thanks for posting that about Puma. I was thinking about that after I went to bed last night. I was wondering whether she was actually getting ENOUGH calories...I was trying to calculate in my head. (like THAT's gonna happen!)

So, anyway Puma, do you have a calorie range you try to stick to? Just checking...The suggestions for calorie ranges are all over the boards as far as how much, but here are two examples.

This is the general guideline...(taken from a book about fats in your diet and nutrition.

To find out how many calories you need, you take your weight, (to maintain) or your desired weight (to lose) and multiply that by 13 if you are sendentary and get no exercise, 15 if you are moderately active, 17 if you are very active and 20 if you are a big fat liar and say that you are EXTREMELY active.

The other, is from Weight Watchers. This is what they say:

350 and over = 1950-2200 calories
325 lbs - 349 lbs = 1850-2100 calories
300 lbs - 324 lbs = 1750-2000 calories
275 lbs - 299 lbs = 1650-1900 calories
250 lbs - 274 lbs = 1550-1800 calories
225 lbs - 249 lbs = 1450-1700 calories
200 lbs - 224 lbs = 1350-1600 calories
175 lbs - 199 lbs = 1250-1500 calories
150 lbs - 174 lbs = 1150-1400 calories
Under 150 lbs = 1050-1300 calories

Now, the first guideline says that for me, if I want to weigh 150, I take that times 15 (cause that is my activity level) and I come up with 2250 for a calorie guideline. That seems a little high to me. I did use this in the beginning, (last month) when I started and I think overall, that you may lose about a pound a week if you stay near that. After all, you need to eat fuel if you are burning it off and you don't want your body to think it's starving. Blah, blah, blah.

BUT....I found the WW guidelines on this board somewhere and I liked them better. I have a range to stay in between and that just works better for me.

The biggest thing I learned from a friend is: DON'T GO TOO LOW. She was eating about 900 calories a day and she was pretty heavy still and she wasn't losing weight after a certain point. I couldn't figure it out. Back then, I was like...LOSE WEIGHT=DON'T EAT. But now I know better.

Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on that topic.

HEY GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had my weigh in, and I didn't have to throw my scale against that wall. (besides, I hate to do that...it sees me naked once a week, and that is more than I can say for my honey.

Down another 2#s. (It's loss of blood, I am sure. LOL) But, I'll take it!

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hello, welcome newbies. i have gotten behind on everyone posts, to many to do shout outs for me, i am also on alot of websites and sometimes it is to much to type, and the newbies thanks for sharing your stories and hope we can all get through this journey together.

i am still at 187, that is the 3 lbs i keep gaining and losing. that was my weigh in this morning, not bad really concidering some ups and downs with pms last week. so onward and upward, no more sliding back, i am tired of seeing that stupid number on the scale. once i get under 187 than i really will know i am on my way. so i have got to have a good week and make those scales move next tues. so i am on a mission. i am also gonna try to cut out some of the carbs, since that seems to be the mainstay of my eating. i just eat too much of them. cant seem to control them once i start, so it is time to really balance out my foods. a little from all food groups. i have a busy week with babysitting, which i wasnt expecting, kinda good kinda bad, the one little girl is a neighbor and her grandmom is raising all three grand kids and doest have much money so as a favor i am babysitting her 3 times this week, and i know it will probably be only 10.00 a day, and she is here from 7:30 till 5:45, and i am feeding her all day long, really not worth my time i could be spending somewhere else with my daughter. i told her this will be the only week i can help her out. anyway, i am trying to hang in there and enjoy the summer , i hope all of you will do the same.

oh tif, i totally can relate what you were saying about the scale and hubby and whether its blood , water, or fat those 2 lbs look great coming off the scales, congrats.
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Good morning and thanks to all for the welcome.

Waking up a little slow with my coffee in front of the screen, so a good time to post a little and try to respond to specific remarks.

Puma - we can be thread newbies together!

Tigerlily - I liked what you said about motivation. I've been the Greene and Powter names on this thread, but I guess I don't know anything about them. I think you're right - if I look for a book to be reading that will help fill up the well of incentive. I think I'll make a little time this weekend to browse the book store - then go to a used bookstore to buy. Recommendations are welcome!

Lizzo - Been there with the BAD job mojo. Keep remembering that you are seperate and if that place just crashes and burns tomorrow it's not reflective of the quality of your work. Chant my little mantra "Job - Life - Job - Life - seperate and different!" and especially when you're working out remember that this is something you're doing temporarily for money but who you are and what you make of yourself will last a lifetime.

Tiffany - Re: sweat. When I get into a sedentary pattern my body just hates to sweat too. I'll get uncomfortable, itchy, crabby and feel a headache coming on and when I think I'm going to have to EXPLODE I break into a sweat, LOL. It's physical! But after the first or second time it gets MUCH easier, almost effortless. Plus, the combustion of stored fat into energy releases heat and water - so if you're sweating, you're burning those little fat cells....

Personally, that's why I like the gym, even if I have to wake up at an unthinkable hour to do it before work. It is a place with it's own structure whose only purpose is for me to work out. It's okay to sweat there. When I am there that is my reason for existence. I have a couple of work-outfits that I only wear to the gym.

When I check in at the door, I make a mental effort to leave everything else outside. When I'm on the treadmill, me and the treadmill are the only things that exist. When I'm done - to **** with those people that whiz around the locker room in 5 minutes. I take a long shower, I scrub with my loofah, I shave my legs (if I want) - the self-care is my reward. (this is an adjustment too because I'm not usually long on self-care as a rule, but at the gym it's different, this is for me.) Then I'm done and I LEAVE. And I don't have to CLEAN their shower, LOL. Oh yeah, and I ALWAYS take 2 towels.

The hardest part is getting up - once I'm there I'm fine.

And as far as body anxiety - well **** yes, I'm fat - why else would I be AT the gym???!! I refuse to let it get to me. So that's my 2 cents about exercise.

Huntress - you will outlive those chocolate cupcakes, and you won't give up this time. You'll be back on the wagon, I know it.

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Old 06-25-2002, 06:13 PM   #172  
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Hi Cafe,
I don't think I said hello to you yet and welcome.

Hey everyone else... I'm doing good here this week but hey it's only Tuesday!!!

Gotta go
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Old 06-26-2002, 07:12 AM   #173  
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Good Morning all! I am in a much better frame of mind than yesterday.

Thanks Cafe - I remind myself each morning when I wake up that this is the beginning of a new day and I commit myself to making the best choices that I can. I am working on a lifestyle change and am doing well so far, sometimes life just throws me a curve ball.

Willbe - I know what you mean about the scales. After my initial loss the scale didn't move until it started going up. Fortunately it has only gone up a few lbs and I am recommited.

Tigerlilly - I agree that the kids don't need that junk and I bring home lots of healthy things for them but sometimes all they want is junk. My mother is undoubtedly the worst when it come to diet sabatoge. We work in the same office and she will bring all kinds of homemade goodies, ice cream, you name it even though she knows that we are all trying to lose weight. What's up with people like that? We also have factory people who like to bring in doughnuts and kolaches in the morning. Makes a person crazy



Tiffany - your poem was cute. (and also a little bit true )

Sandset - where are you..........

Justcuz - I'm glad to hear that you're doing well this week, you're my inspiration.

To the rest of you, I'm still trying to get caught up I will catch you later.

Thanks to all of you for the support during my rough time lately, my knee is almost back to normal now and I'm looking forward to getting some exercise and getting back on the program. This group is the best!

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PS I decided to reevalute my goal weight and shoot for something a little more realistic. 150 is a weight that I have maintained in the past for many years until I gained 3 years ago when my ex past away.
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hello all, glad to see we are checking in with each other and hanging tough. that is what will get us to our goals. huntress glad you are recomitting.

i have a little mini goal myself and it is really a challenge to myself to be FULLY committed to my plan. i am going on my one week vacation on july 21, i believe that gives me 25 days. i want to lose 12 lbs by then that will put me at 175, stilll a ways to go but i will be out of the 180's and with the 3 lbs i just lost will put me at 15 lbs and i will start to feel better about my self.

so i am gonna pull the reins a little tighter, no slip ups, no overeating, and really try to choose healther foods. excercise 4 days a week for 30 mins(if i do more fine) but i am making that my excercise goal. of course drink my water, 6to8 glasses.

well, that is it. have a great day everyone
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Thx for welcome, Judy.

Busy day ahead of me today so not much time.

I did go to the gym today so that means I've reached my first mini-goal of keeping a regular schedule until my vacation from work.

Next goal: work out on the same schedule while I'm *NOT* coming downtown to work (the gym is under 2 blocks away from work). This shouldn't be too hard because I can go for a walk virtually anytime, right?

Bad news is, I stepped on the big digital scale this morning thinking: I need a morning weigh-in not a 2pm Saturday afternoon weigh-in. Yow! It was up 2 lbs. But I'm NOT going to think about it.

It's all about the exercise, I just have to do the exercise. Anybody got a pair of blinders I can borrow?

So today is last day at work until Monday July 8. With 2 paid holidays in there I get 11 days straight off for the price of 5 vacation days... I'll be out of town over the weekend but I hope to log in from home next week and check up on you all. My houseguest who was supposed to arrive next Monday cancelled, so in one night I went from looking at a week of all-hostess-all-the-time to zero responsibility! I'm considering going on a brief cleanse during that time to jump-start me into a diet plan... I guess I'm on the cusp - not sure I'm willing to completely commit to ramping up yet. But close. The timing could NOT be better. Need to get psyched up.

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Ok, so I was just poking around the 3FC forum and came across your thread. I started reading but knew I wouldnít be able to read the whole thing without losing my place and getting interrupted. Darn boss wants me to WORK or something!! Whatís up with that!?!? So I decided to copy and paste all 12 pages into a word document so I could just scroll on through ...

... So 3.85 megabytes later I found myself thinking this may have been a big mistake. Computer's still breathing heavy but man, I just love this thread!! Iím not new to 3FC but the thread Iíd posted on for a long time (years!) started getting slower and slower with fewer and fewer people posting until it pretty much died. Canít explain it. So anyway, I happened to find you guys, did the copy and paste thing and when I opened the Word document, I did a quick scroll and the first thing that caught my eye were the words ďstrong, beautiful, sexy, not very hungry goddessesĒ!!! Tiffany, I decided right then and there that I LIKE you!!!! Iíve been reading all the posts, had a couple laughs like Jenís disappointment at not having Chuck Norris jump out of the box to demonstrate the equipment and am still wondering about, uh, ďsnail snotĒ. Iíve noticed that some of you live pretty close to me too! JustMe, you in Philly!?!? Iím about 20 miles north of you.

Anyway, I too am ďdoing my own thingĒ. I was in Weight Watchers for almost 2 years. During the first year, I lost 40 pounds. During the second year ... weíre talking about 50 weeks ... costing me over $500 ... a year of my life gone ... I lost ... oh this is embarrassing ... 2 pounds. Yikes!! I decided it just wasnít working for me any more. Of course, in the two months since I quit, Iíve gained back almost 15 lbs.!!! Why does it come back so much quicker than it goes away!?!? But Iím getting back on track. Joined a gym and go 2-3 times a week to embarrass myself on scary machines and work up a sweat. And I hope that I can come in and play with you guys too?? I promise Iíll try not to be boring and Iíll try to contribute and behave myself. My first contribution for example is Walden Farms. Tiffany, I saw you mention it a couple posts ago. The salad dressings are all very good. The dips are pretty good too. The chocolate syrup has a ďfunnyĒ taste to it. Itís not bad but itís not great. The barbeque sauces are pretty bad Ė funny taste and they burn too easily on the grill. My 2-cents for all it's worth.

A little about me if anyoneís interested. Iím 40, recently divorced, a cancer survivor and have been overweight my entire adult life. Iím tired of it!!! I currently weigh about 180 (I think Ė gotta get a new scale). I swore that this was going to be the summer that I was going to appear in public in a bathing suit or shorts but it just didnít happen. Maybe next year? Meanwhile, I keep plugging along. Iíve tried just about every diet program and eating plan out there and have remembered a few things, gotten a few ideas and learned a few lessons. Mom always taught me to share so Iím here to offer suggestions and hope to learn a few more things.

So can I play too?

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Old 06-26-2002, 01:13 PM   #177  
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Jo,

In case you haven't noticed, I have several heros on this thread, and now you are added to my list. First off, I applaud you. Being a cancer survivor is beyond words for me. (And you all know that I have NO shortage of words.) I CAN honestly say that I don't know anyone who has ever had cancer, but I can only imagine what you went through and to come out on top like you have is a testament to your courage and positive outlook. And, obviously God knew that we needed you here with us to motivate us and teach us a lesson, so...WELCOME.

Ok, YES...I just watched Pay it Forward again and I bawl like a baby every single time. EVERY TIME. Especially at the end where they play that song, "Calling All Angels" Ok, crying again.

DANG MOVIE.

Second, that must have been a heck of a word document. LOL...I have been debating starting a new thread, and I'm sure eventually I will, but as long as I can click on that little thing that says "Go to first Unread Post" I know I don't have to scroll through everything to read the new stuff. So, I won't start a new one yet.

I laughed when I read the part about you liking me. I feel like Sally Field. "You LIKE me!!! You REALLY like me!!!" Thank you for that. I think that being funny is part of my charm, but boy I can get UGLY when I am mad. So, if I haven't posted for a little while (more than 6 hours, lol) It's because I am tearing someone's head off. Or fantasizing about it, anyway.

Thanks for the info on the Walden Farms. I posted a seperate thread on it, asking for information earlier and NO ONE responded. I was shocked that no one had tried it or no one at least had an opinion about it...so it was great to hear your views on it. I want the 1000 Island dressing. I LOVE 1000 Island.

Good for you for doing your own thing. I think it is a sign of evolution in a woman's brain to be able to say, "Weight Watchers taught me a lot, but I need to add this, or not do this, or I don't like counting points, so I will do THIS instead.." Instead of going on to the next restrictive diet.

Well, WELCOME!!!! Hope to see you contributing frequently and keeping us honest here!!!

Cafe, good to see you again! Glad to see you getting to the gym!
Wow, enjoy that time off...that sounds like it will be just what you needed. Glad to see you not worrying about that gain. So many things can affect our weight gains. Hormones, water gain, muscle, etc. I'm glad to see that you are taking it in stride.

(By the way, I will throw those blinders in the mail for ya!)

Will, good to see you have a goal. I just know that would be a little too much for me. That works out to about 3 pounds a week for the next month...so we will be wishing you the best and really pulling for you. I know that I have to set small goals for myself, that I am 100% sure I can reach, or else the feeling of not attaining my goal makes me really bummed out. But Thank God we are all different. The challenge of knowing what you want to do and when you want to do it may be enough to really throw you into high gear. I guess I just worry too much about you. LOL...

I think that having a mini goal is a GREAT idea and I think we ALL should have one. Here is mine:

I am leaving in two weeks for a few days in Branson at a water park (OMG a bathing suit) and Silver Dollar City. So, I would like to lose a little more for that trip. I started this at 265 pounds and I weighed 245 on Tuesday. So, I am going to aim high and say, when I leave in 19 days, I would like to be in the 230's. Now, I KNOW I probably can't lose 6 pounds in 19 days, although that is about 3 weeks, so that would be 2#'s a week, but I am going to try to my hardest. So, thank you Will, for making me have a goal too.

That is my mini goal. and I have some work to do. Time to go work out. I have my Susan Powter video finally, it came in the mail, so I am going to have to give it a try.

Just Cuz, glad to see you popping in! Good for you, for doing so well!!!

Huntress:
Glad to see you are feeling better!!!

Take care everyone and I will chat later,
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Welcome Jello! Glad to have you play with us! How much are you trying to loose?
My first goal...10 pounds gone by July 1st...is right around the corner. I hope this darn cold and lack of exercise isn't gonna hold me back from loosing that last pound! My second goal...hope I'm not jump'n on that too soon...is gonna be another 10 gone by Sept. 1st! That gives me eight weeks to loose 10 pounds, totally doable!
Tiff, a bathing suit!!!! The thought mortifies me! I would really like to know what the designers that make bathing suits in larger sizes are thinking. For example, what is the point of putting a skirt thingy around the bottom if it barely covers your @$$? I finally settled for this suit last year...two pieces, skirt covered bottom (too short) and tankini top....with way to high of a neck line. What heavy girl needs to cover her collar bones! That's the one place I'm not fat! ARgh!
Cafe, a vacation sounds nice. DH is on vacation next week. One more boy at home to take care of.
Willbe, good luck on your mini goal...although it doesn't seen so "mini". You are really push'n yourself! But, if you are determined you can do it!

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hello, welcom, jello. yup we have a great bunch of people here , they all care and are all trying really hard to get to thier goals. you sound like you will fit right in.

tif, i can believe you said that about the movie, pay it forward, i go around singing that song all the time, so sad. what a tear jerker. oh and the quote, "you like me , you really like me" are you a sponge bob fan?? sorry if you mentioned it before and missed it.

jello, i also thought this was the year i was gonna look half way decent in a bathing suit, as a matter of fact i just said it to someone today, my next door neighbor has a built in pool, and cant let my daughter not have fun because i dont like the way i look in a bathing suit. i cant believe i am in the same exact weight i was last year. what a bad dream. well it is time to wake up.

thanks tiger, i will give it my all. going shopping tonight and loading up on fruits and veggies, which i still dont get enough of.
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Tig, the bathing suits I have looked at have made me cringe. Big large orange flowers. Big skirts on them. Bras built in that look like they could hold a couple of war torpedos. UGLY, UGLY.

I look at the ones that look like they have shorts and the longer tank looking top, but I know I could never raise my arms without my rolls popping out of the middle of my suit. So, I will stick to my one piece, and probably will after I lose weight, cause I was blessed with some lovely stretch marks, and I am WAY past bikini time!! It just pisses me off (pardon me) the way they make the larger sized bathing suits look so freaking ugly. Why can't they use simple colors and styles and make something that won't draw attention to us. Like big skirts and orange and pink flowers will help me blend in with a crowd? For Pete's sake.

Oooohh..that subject just gets my panties in a wad. (And that is a lot of panties to get all bunched up )

Well, yesterday was a bust. I am such a backslider. LOL...I did perfect all day long and then DH called me and said there were two couples at work that wanted to know if we would meet them for dinner. So, that sounded like fun and we all met at Alexander's Steakhouse. (MY FAV) and everyone was drinking beer, but I had Diet Soda instead. I was looking at the steaks and pork chops and chicken and decided I wanted chicken, but EVERYONE was having steak and I hadn't eaten red meat for 2 months, so I found a lean steak...and took it to the grill. You can grill your own meat there. Pick it out of the case and then everyone stands around the grill and drinks and cooks their meat. It really is fun.

So, while you stand there, you can throw a piece of Texas Toast on the grill and they have a pan of melted butter on the grill to slather over your bread. So, I was going to skip the bread, but I was so dang hungry and I had a piece with lots of butter, then I decided it was so good, I had another one. (I figured since I skipped all the beer, I could. GREAT REASONING!!!!) That is that old diet mentality. Anyway, I grilled my steak and had a little salad while we were waiting. Just lettuce, tomato and onion with 1000 Island on the side with 6 crackers. I skipped the cheese and the bacon bits. (Every little bit helps) So, by the time my steak was ready, I was full of salad and bread. I think my steak was 16 oz, but I only ate half with some sauteed mushrooms, and brought the rest of my meat home to my daughter.

I tell you...I was SICK. SICK. I layed in bed almost in tears cause my belly hurt so bad. I don't know if it was the combination of the red meat and butter, or I just ate too much or what, but I was in the bathroom all night and most of this morning. So, hopefully most of what I ate is in the sewer system somewhere. I finally had to guzzle some Imodium before I died.

I had a nice time (at the restaurant, not in the bathroom) But I can say that I learned a valuable lesson. VALUABLE. I will eat the dang chicken next time I go, and skip the bread and eat a plain baked potato and be SATISFIED and full without the guilt or the poopy problems.

This is like the worst kind of peer pressure. And, I am mad at DH today, cause he knows how hard I am trying and he was like, "What the heck, you don't do this anymore, once won't hurt you." But once DID hurt me. It hurt my emotional well-being, not to mention my backside and stomach. And the thing that hurts the most, is that I KNOW BETTER than that. I DO. I just let everyone else influence me. Why the **** is it anyone's business if I want chicken at a steak restaurant? They all were just HOUNDING me to get a steak. "We're all getting a steak, you should too." Like if I didn't have a steak, I wasn't cool or something.

Anyway, I had to beat myself up a little over this. I know in the future, that it wasn't worth it to me to have a steak. It tasted ok, but I would have enjoyed it more, if I had had the chicken. I LOVE chicken.

Ok, I am DONE beating myself up, and I DID learn a lesson, so I guess all's well that ends well.

In the end, I only ate about 8 oz of lean steak, and a little salad with a little dressing, the two pieces of bread weren't so bad, but it was the melted butter over it that really made it bad. I think I read somewhere that one stick of melted butter is 813 calories and 92 grams of fat. I am thinking that one stick melted down wouldn't be that much and I used this basting brush thing and basted both sides of my bread (both pieces, both sides) and then basted my steak with it too, so it would be moist. LOL...


Anyway, exercise every day now for me and I will move on.
Thanks for letting me holler.
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