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Old 12-02-2007, 09:04 PM   #31  
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Are these addictive?
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:32 PM   #32  
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I was taking Alli but had to stopped because I was going through a change in prescription drugs that caused my digestive track to be all messed up. I plan on going back on soon. It did seem to help the short time I took them but you definitely can't eat too much fat or you will know it. Though that is the point.
They are not addictive because unlike many "diet" pills it only works in your stomach. It's not mood altering and doesn't effect any other part of your body. I'm no medical expert but I would say there is no way you can get physically addicted to it.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:36 AM   #33  
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I heard about Alli long ago. Like Azure said it is the diet rather than the pill that makes you lose weight.
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Consumers desperately searching for solution to their weight challenges now have easy access to the new FDA-approved over-the-counter (OTC) weight-loss drug Orlistat, marketed under the name Alli. Lest you think this is a brand new drug that will deliver the much sought after solution to the obesity epidemic, think again. This “new” drug isn’t new at all. Orlistat is simply a lower-dose version of the prescription weight-loss drug Xenical, which has had zero impact on moving the fat meter in our society. Making Orlistat available to consumers over-the-counter only means that tens of millions of people will now have false hopes of sustained weight-loss while being exposed to toxic, synthetic chemical compounds.
So this is supposed to be an old drug in a new bottle. A prescription drug made an OTC just for company profits.
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the drug interferes with the absorption of essential fatty acids. Given that most overweight people are already extremely deficient in omega-3 fatty acids, DHA and other healthy oils, this Alli drug is likely to put them in an even worse state of deficiency.

The drug works by interfering with the digestion of dietary fats, you see. That may sound great if you're eating a diet of fried foods, hydrogenated oils and processed meat products, but even if you block the absorption of those obesity-promoting fats, you're still left in a state of deficiency concerning the healthy oils like omega-3 fatty acids. And if you eat more flaxseed or take fish oil capsules, guess what? Alli will interfere with those, too, causing you to miss out on at least some of their benefits.
there was a funny article on Alli. I cannot post links so do a search for ""Miracle" weight loss drug Alli delivers more than you bargained for (diapers optional)" With the double quotes in google and you will get the article.
After coming to this forum I see that this article might be a little exaggerated.
The truth however is that if you take a high fat diet with alli you might have anal discharge. I think that is the motivating factor like it says in the article. The most motivating factor is that if you have a "side effect" in public then you will have to move to another city and hope no one has taken your video.

I find alli will make you lose only 5 of the 15 pounds you lose with it. The other 10 pounds you lose because of your diet.
But then only "we" know what "we" are going through. And sometimes "we" are ready to take that risk or do anything that will keep "us" on track.
I find only two supplements that actually work. One is Garcinia Cambogia(not recomened for diabetics as it reduces blood sugar levels and a person on insulin might get hypo) which has not side effects at all. This one i can personally vouch for. I have a sort of an eating disorder and I binge for day consuming 5000+ calories of fast food and during one such 10 day binge i actually reduced 3 kgs.
The other one is Fucothin. i cant vouch for it but i am taking it. After the research I have done on it. I find that those that "condemn" it only do so because there are no human test only lab test on mice. The human test that were conducted were not for weight loss but for it effect on cancer and it is really a superfood. So I am not losing anything by taking fucothin. I am going to go by the lab test on mice and the feedback on several forums by users that it works for them. All of them said it got rid of belly fat which is what i am looking for.
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:13 AM   #34  
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Why rubbish a drug that's been properly tested over many years with real clinical outcomes and then promote other products that have not gone through the same rigours?

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p.s. lost 33 lbs on Orlistat in just over 4 months
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Old 12-05-2007, 01:52 PM   #35  
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I am now on Weight Watchers but I posted to this thread awhile ago, and I just have to respond to Raj. What's with the confrontational tone of your post? First, I don't think you posted anything new. I think most people here are pretty aware that most of the drug's effects aren't due to the fact that it blocks fat absorption.

Your statement regarding the fact that the weight loss is just due to the diet is flawed. I know if I'm taking a pill that's going to make bad things happen to my digestive system if I go off the diet, well, I'll be more likely to stick to the diet. So it's not the diet per se, it's not the fat blockage per se, it's the fact that while you're on the pill you're more likely to comply with the diet plan.

As for the claim that Orlistat hasn't made an impact on obesity rates, how could it? Xenical was a prescription drug, and it was prescribed for a very small percentage of obese Americans. Orlistat has only been available for what, 5-6 months now? And the cost is prohibitive. Many people cannot afford the cost of the drug, so they choose not to take it. Not everyone who's taking it started when it first came out on the market, and if you're losing weight in a responsible manner, you do so slowly. So I think it will take some time to see any effects on the obesity problem.

As for your claim that it's just a drug company trying to make more money, well duh! That's how things work. Allegra did the same thing. I'm there there are hundreds of drugs that became non-prescription, and I'm sure drug companies wouldn't have pursued non-prescription status if it weren't profitable.

And while I applaud your general approach of critical thinking, I scratch my head at this statement:

The other one is Fucothin. i cant vouch for it but i am taking it. After the research I have done on it. I find that those that "condemn" it only do so because there are no human test only lab test on mice. The human test that were conducted were not for weight loss but for it effect on cancer and it is really a superfood. So I am not losing anything by taking fucothin. I am going to go by the lab test on mice and the feedback on several forums by users that it works for them. All of them said it got rid of belly fat which is what i am looking for.

How could you be putting something in your body that you can't vouch for? How can you be taking any pill that wasn't tested on humans? If you're so concerned about the effects of a drug that has gone through many clinical trials, why aren't you concerned with a drug that hasn't even been tested on humans?
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:40 PM   #36  
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I'm gonna try it!
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:16 PM   #37  
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This is not a miracle drug and they let you know right of the bat. If you think that you can eat like a mad man/woman this isn't the case. All this does is allow people the opportunity to add some benefit to your already existing HEALTHY diet. I just started it. This morning, of my 350 cal breakfast,2 waffles with jelly, coffee with creamer and a pear, 130 cals of that is from fat intake. Alli will help block it and send some of it out of the body. But you must watch your fat intake or Alli will give you adverse effects ( pardon my bluntness but it'll give you the runs). The pills aren't addictive and if you want to have a high fat meal on occassion don't take the pill before you eat. No adverse effect. I figure, I'm committed to the program, and this way I can focus on losing 10 lbs and Alli can help me add maybe another 5b to my loss without doing anything else. If it can help keep me on the path and can assist me in getting from 156-@141 instead of 146 why not? Of course, I'm also a short termer on Alli. 2 bottles and I'm done. Everyone has to make their own decision. No miracles here. Don't expect one just hard work.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:47 AM   #38  
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Hey all,

I wanted to talk about my experience with Alli. I bought the starter pack read all the instructions and informational material and figured that it was pretty easy. It was pretty easy. According to your weight, it tells you about the highest amounts of grams of fat you should be having at each meal. Mine was 18. It worked well when I didn't eat to much fat and there were no unpleasant side effects. However, one day at work, the salad bar where my office usually orders from had a flood and we could not get food from there. I had many bad experiences with other restaurants that had salad so I didn't want to order. So we decided to get beef patties w/cheese for lunch. I thought it was a bad idea to take the pill with this meal because I was certain the amount of fat was over the limit. I took the pill anyway and OMG at first everything was okay while I was at work. I had a little gas and that was all. I usually eat lunch around 1 to 2pm. When I left work at 5:30pm I was still pretty okay. As I approached my home, I began to have horrible stomach pains... and I felt like I had to go to the bathroom immediately. I felt as though I could not hold it. The pains were intense and I had to have my husband drop me off in front of my house, so I could run in while he looked for parking. When I finally reached the bathroom, it came pouring out like a faucet. I felt releaved at this point, but didn't know that it was not the end. When I wiped myself, the tissue was orange, and it look like water. I thought Wow this is crazy. I got up and proceeded to carry on with my daily home from work routine, but found that my stomach still hurt and I had to go back to the bathroom, this time I unleased so much. When I wiped the same thing happened but it was a lot more. When I looked in the toilet I was shocked.. the orange stuff I had seen on the tissue was all over the toilet bowl. Apparently, the orange stuff was all the grease/fat from my food, it was great to see that the product actually worked, but I was pissed at how many times I had to ****, which was about 3 for the night.

The great thing about Alli is that it works, and the unpleasant effects will stop you from eating the wrong thing and taking the pill. However, if you know you had too much fat, you just don't have to take the pill, which is also not good cause then u may eat it anyway. All in all I took it for 1 month and lost about 5 pounds, without working out.. Just walking a bit more, cutting soda and juice from my diet and eating better. Imagine if I had been working out and not cheating on my diet once in a while....

Well any questions let me know....
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:51 PM   #39  
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I'm on Xenical and its working for me. I've also changed my diet but its little things, like knowing that I am going to crap myself if I pick between meals and that's enough NOT TO!!
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:24 PM   #40  
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hello all,

I just was so happy to have found this board, I have started alli today, so am looking forward to seeing how this works. I hope all will share they alli day with me also. I am off to bed, and will check back in tomorrow....nice to have found this site.

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Old 03-21-2008, 08:32 AM   #41  
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If you are looking for support for Alli, check our general diet plans area
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=10

There is usually a support thread going. This thread isn't for support, just for general questions and discussion.
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:40 AM   #42  
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I started Alli on March 17th. The first two days I took it before all three meals. Then I realized since I do eat low fat anyway, I didni't need to take it for breakfast or lunch so now only take it once per day at supper time. So far, today is my two week point, I have lost eleven pounds.
Yes if you eat to much fat you will suffer with the trots. lol So far I have not had a problem because I am on a low fat diet anyway.
So my pills were just under $60 for 90 and since I am only taking it once per day that comes to $20 per month for a little diet boost that is working for me.
Foe me, I think taking it just once a day is a little psychological boost as well to help me stay within my fat grams allowed per day for myself. I will check in next Tuesday with my weight loss again. we will see if it continues. I hope so.

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Old 03-29-2008, 12:13 PM   #43  
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I tried this for about a month. I didn't have any of the side effects that they stated, but I found it hard to meet my fat intake per meal. You weren't supposed to exceed more than 15 grams of fat per meal, but you have to eat at least that for the pill to work effectively. I lost about 8 pounds on it, but it was hard to get the fat that was required. If you have no problem eating the fat content, then Alli would be for you.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:00 PM   #44  
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I started taking Alli almost a week ago. I haven't had any problems because (as my dr. said) count your fat carefully. I'm also doing w.w so my question is if my points are 26 per day. How do I know what my calories should be? Any one know the range for this. Thanks
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:46 PM   #45  
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26 POINTS equals roughly 1300 calories. That's a rough estimate.
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