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Old 08-17-2010, 04:31 PM   #16  
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Cool...drink and pee until you're blue in the face, but if you are eating a healthy diet, (which is the goal here at 3FC no?) you don't need to torture yourself. Your veins and skin will be just fine on a HEALTHY diet without the overload of water. But do what you must...frankly I don't care to have to find some crappy bathroom every 50 miles on a road trip, stop and find a bathroom when I'm shopping, stop and find a bathroom when I'm working out, stop and use the bathroom when I'm doing the wild thing with my honey. If you ladies find that helpful, than do it...I'm just saying you don't have too. I'm living proof that every person does not need crap loads of water to lose A LOT of weight quickly and healthfully.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:51 PM   #17  
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I don't find that drinking water is torture. **Shrug**

Different strokes for different folks! Definitely not trying to be contrary. I know that a lot of people dislike drinking water and am willing to agree that weight loss is possible without drowning yourself.

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Old 08-17-2010, 09:22 PM   #18  
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I drink 64 ounces of water every day. I generally feel better than i did before. I do not drink pop or anything else though except a cup of hot tea at night. There are certain days of the week where I have to work long hours so I drink about 40 ounces after I get off work. This next part might be embarrassing but oh well. I have also found that if I d0 not have lots of water I have constipation issues with all of the fiber I consume.

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Old 08-17-2010, 09:28 PM   #19  
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I drink 64 ounces of water every day. I generally feel better than i did before. I do not drink pop or anything else though except a cup of hot tea at night. There are certain days of the week where I have to work long hours so I drink about 40 ounces after I get off work. This next part might be embarrassing but oh well. I have also found that if I d0 not have lots of water I have constipation issues with all of the fiber I consume.
Just wanted to comment to say that nothing too much is taboo for us here at 3FC. Most of the time you can find more than 1 person to relate to almost any situation or issue you may be having without feeling embarrassed which is part of the reason I 3FC


ETA: I do drink a lot of water but do I think it is absolutely necessary for weight loss? Hmm, I would say for me, probably not. But every body is different and everyone has to do what is best for them (or what they feel is best anyway )

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Thanks Michelle I love 3FC as well! It's still easy for me to forget that there are others that will have the same issue. I'm still not used to talking about them but am getting there.
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My mom nearly died because she believed the myths about water. She was only drinking a little over a gallon of fluid a day, but it was too much and she was hospitalized for water intoxication (which damaged her kidneys permanently).

The last thing Americans need is to be fed lies, even if the lies occasionally help some people accidentally.

Extra water isn't going to hurt most people. It can even help some, but it's important to know what is and isn't true.

My mom believed (because her Weight Watcher's leader told her so) that she had to "compensate" for the dehydrating effects of her two to three cups of coffee with four to six additional glasses of water. She was also told that anything that wasn't "pure water" didn't really count, so the milk, soup, watermelon and other high-water fruits and vegetables didn't count either.

She was in good health except for mild high blood pressure. The blood pressure medication was potassium sparing (meaning that sodium would be spared, and sodium would be lost at a higher rate). This usually makes sense because the American diet is so high in sodium and so low in potassium, that it is better to save the potassium than the sodium (sodium and potassium work in such a way that if you increase potassium, it depelets sodium, and vice versa). My mom was eating a low-sodium diet - probably lower than even most sodium-restricted diets because for as longas I can remember, we never used much salt in the home, even at the table. Salt was never on the table unless we had raw tomatoes, corn or kohlrabi from the garden.

The SAD is so high in sodium, it's usually extremely difficult to drink enough water to wash enough sodium out of your body. At least it has been until the dieting-related water myths came on the scene. The kidney specialist called in on my mom's case said it was once rare for any doctor - even kidney specialists to see more than a case or two of water intoxication in their entire years of practice. Now they see several cases a year, and more are occuring among healthy, "normal" individuals than ever before. At one time doctors were taught (even in graduate developmental psychology courses I was taught - and passed on the false information when I taught in community college classes) that water intoxication only occured in people with severe existing kidney disease, extreme long-distance athletes, mentally ill (with a compulsive water drinking fixation), and fools trying to pass drugscreens by chugging gallons of water.

Everyone else was safe (or so we thought).

Drink all the water you want, but if you're going to drink more than a gallon a day, be aware of the symptoms of water intoxication, so that if you experience them you don't drop dead before you're diagnosed. The symptoms are vague enough that they could be a thousand other things. And even if you get to the hospital, the doctors may not look for it, because they're not expecting to find it.

You can have a heart attack before anyone guesses what's wrong.

If you're eating processed food or bucket-loads of salt from other sources, you may never be at risk - but the people at highest risk may be the peoplee trying to eat and be healthier - and are more likely to be avoiding those processed foods and other sources of excess sodium.

If you're eating whole, unadulterated foods you don't need to be drinking more than a gallon of fluids every day. If you're drinking alot of fluids, but they're not "plain" water, it's important to know that they do count.

Water can be helpful for health and dieting, but (although Americans hate to admit in so many ways) there are few things that are exempt from the "too much of a good thing" rule.

I have some of the same risk factors that my mother does (mild high blood pressure, a dislike for salty foods, and a tendency towards low blood sodium levels), and I've been told I shouldn't drink more than 3 liters of fluids. Sometimes I do. Though I try to be aware of what I'm doing, and if it's been a high fluid day I try to make sure I've had a little extra salt. That's not a precaution most people have to take, but I do. Before I have any surgery, I have to have my sodium levels checked (on one occasion I had to take sodium supplements before they could do the surgery). I was told to always remember this and remind any medical staff in the future to run the tests, because they wouldn't know to look for it, because it's relatively rare. Low-sodium levels, especially during surgery can result in cardiac arrest (and my mother when she was hospitalized for the water intoxication, the ER doctor thought she was having a heart attack because her hear rate was so irregular. Getting her blood chemistry and heart functioning normally was why she was hospitalized so long).

Water is great for a lot of things. It can be a good appetite suppresant. I also use it to plump up my veins before blood draws as already mentioned, but it is important to understand (especially with the water myths and where they can lead) the ups and down sides. We neeed to be aware of the truthful facts so we can differentiate and evaluate signs and symptoms of "not enough" and "too much."

It's not rocket science, and it can be taught. The symptoms of dehydration and the symptoms of overhydration aren't difficult to learn (except that people want easy answers rather than guidelines by which they can judiciously apply common sense).
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