Like I said. I TOTALLY understand the need for panis removal and noncosmetic procedures. I'm still talking about the cosmetic stuff. I can tell the difference in pictures.
I must add that over the last 2 years... weight loss, weight training, and body changes have removed the need for a tummy tuck altogether, for me.
Huh! Just realized now that this thread is WAY old - still a lot of the same voices though, so it didn't appear as an old thread! Weird!
I'm finding my stomach is shrinking up too with time. You know what's not though? My arms. They are soooooo bad. I would totally do a arm job. I can live with the tummy as it's so scarred up from babies, but my arms are so flabby and bady on the underside. Lots of muscle now, Not bulky, but lean, but tons of loose skin.
It is unreal that so many assume laziness over any other reason. Is it really so hard to understand that not everyone's body is the same and everyone does not gain nor lose weight in the same way.
I had lost 100lbs before I had surgery. Is having 7 pounds removed really cheating something? Is that really being lazy?
I had signed up here thinking "Hey, I could use support for the rest of this journey"... but reading the responses I'm definitely questioning that now.
I would guess I'm the one who made it "rise from the dead", lol, sorry, didn't even look at the dates. But having been there, done that, and on the other side of it- I did feel I should share
It seems that this topic is very controversial. I'm going to try to avoid upsetting anyone but here's my two cents:
What I believe Valrock was getting at in her original post was not "blarg fat people suck and don't deserve cosmetic surgery for any reason ever". What I think she meant was, and this is entirely true, many people choose elective cosmetic surgery without even trying to establish a healthier lifestyle first. Of course there's people who require this surgery for very valid reasons who are heavier than they should be and that's fine. There's also people who are comfortable where they are and just want a small fix. That's fine too.
But there are people who believe that surgery is a "quick fix", that if you have enough money you don't have to diet or exercise or any of that, just go under the knife and magically become beautiful. Which is not the case, many people who undergo elective plastic surgery without considering other, healthier methods do not learn from the experience. They eat how they ate before, they stay sedentary and eventually get the weight back, and more. And have endangered their health, scarred their bodies and, in many cases, had their dreams shattered in the process. THIS is unethical when considering the healthcare provider who signed off on the procedure, it is a healthcare provider's duty, first and foremost, to do what's best for the patient's overall health. Which isn't always what the patient may want.
Someone previously mentioned that there's no way to tell what someone's circumstance is in before and after pictures. This is true, I don't believe the goal is to judge the individual in the photos. I believe this discussion was meant to go in the direction of irresponsible use of resources and procedures by people who do not think the decision through before doing it.
I went to see a plastic surgeon because I want a tummy tuck/lipo and boobs. He highly recommended that I weight to get closer to my goal weight, but would move forward now if I insisted. Along with that he also explained that the results wouldnt be as good if I decided to do it now instead of later. I think that for me, it would be a waste of my time and money, to have elective surgery before I am at goal.
I must add that over the last 2 years... weight loss, weight training, and body changes have removed the need for a tummy tuck altogether, for me.
ValRock That's awesome! I'm hoping that will be the same with me but we will see after all the hard work and time.
KatBot pretty much said what I wanted to say so I'm seconding it!
Candice- I'm not sure why you're getting all upset. No one said YOU were being lazy getting that 7lb of skin removed. This (very old) post was not directed at you.
It is unreal that so many assume laziness over any other reason. Is it really so hard to understand that not everyone's body is the same and everyone does not gain nor lose weight in the same way.
Since this thread had been dead for over two years and multiple sides of the issue were presented to OP at the time, I'm going to go ahead and close it.
Candice, congrats on your 100lb loss!! I hope you decide to spend a little more time with us and I'm sure you will see that there's a wealth of plans supported here at 3FC, which include surgical options. You'll find many members who pursue surgery prior to, during, and years following weightloss and maintenance and we support them in their mission. We'll support you too