I'll add my two cents here. I have tried the boca burgers and thought they were good. I have also tried the crumbles and they work VERY well. I put them in casseroles and no one knows the difference if you do not tell them. I took a casserole to a church meeting a couple of weeks ago and had substituted light cheese, veggie crumbles, veggie pasta and everyone raved about how good it was!! They have finally learned we need some healthy alternatives.. YEAH!!