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08-28-2004, 11:39 AM
Hello fellow WWs, :wave:

Anyone doing CORE is welcome to jump in here. You don't have to be a Jaded Lady to participate.

Here're 8 Good Health Guidelines to keep in mind each day:

1. Eat at least 5 servings of vegetables and fruits each day.

2. Choose whole-grain foods, such as brown rice and oats.

3. Include 2 servings of milk products (low fat 1%; or fat-free) each day. If you are more than 50 years old or are a teenager, increase this amount to 3 servings each day.

4. Have some healthy oil (olive, canola, sunflower, safflower or flaxseed) each day. This habit ensures that you get the essential fatty acids and vitamin E that your body needs. Use the oil in salads, in cooking, or as an ingredient in a mixed dish.

5. Ensure that you are getting enough protein by choosing at least a serving or two of meat, poultry, fish, eggs, dried beans, or soy products each day. Many milk products are also good sources of protein.

6. Limit added sugar and alcohol.

7. Drink at least 6 glasses of water each day.

8. Take a multiple vitamin-mineral supplement each day.

08-28-2004, 11:54 AM
Here we go!!

Ok, this is going to be a new adventure! I have to go get some fat-free salad dressings and some whole wheat pasta, since I don't normally keep these things around. But a lot of what I eat is already CORE, so that helps!

Here's my Monday food plan... what do you think? Oh, by the way, I get 3 milks since I'm 50. Being old is finally paying off! :D

B - oatmeal with milk, egg, orange
L - sliced tomatoes, tortilla (2 flex points), tuna salad, kiwi and milk
S - cantaloupe
D - salad w/green peppers and tomatoes, chicken breast cooked in canola oil, brown rice, veggie medley, ff/sf pudding
S - popcorn

That seems like a lot of food! Healthy food. :) I for sure have to have protein at every meal, though, to get me through. No where up there is my sugar-free popsicle that I'm used to eating.... it is point-less... can I still have one, or not??

Well, does that look ok, or am I forgetting something?

Edited to add: Where is couscous at the store? :?: Found the other things I needed, but couldn't find couscous with the grains! I had this in a restaurant recently and liked it...

08-28-2004, 09:51 PM
Your meal for Monday is on Core. I don't have the materials you get at the meeting, I am on-line so I am just feeling my way also. It is my understanding that although the rules for healthy eating are still important, you are not limited to any of the core foods, although you should watch portion size and stop eating when you are full.

Today I had:
Shredded wheat/bran and skim milk - C
Chicken fajita salad (restaurant) - 2 pts. cheese and 2 points chips (cut the sour cream)
Stuffed Baked Potato - C (nonfat yogurt instead of butter, pico, onions, cucumber, mushrooms)

I think that left me with 25 flex points for the week. I start over tomorrow.

I have noticed that although I am not eating that much more then when I was on winning points, I don't feel as hungry. I munch on more fruits than before. And my mood and energy level has soared since getting rid of the sugar and junk food.

I haven't had my exercise today. Guess I'd better go for that walk.

Good luck. Now that I have found your thread, I will pop in every once in a while.

08-28-2004, 10:18 PM
Hi Janette,

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it! I also don't go to meetings, so I know how you feel! You are doing great so far, to have that many flex points left over. Seems like I was already eating mostly Core before, with the Flex Points. Sort of "Flore", if you will, lol.

Please do join us! This will be a very small group, and we could use all the help and friendship and good ideas that we can get.

Hope you pop in with your weight loss for the week.... we will be very interested in your progress.

08-28-2004, 11:59 PM
Here're a couple of Core recipes that looked pretty good!

Mexican Chicken and Rice Dinner
16 ounces chicken breast, no skin, no bone, R-T-C
1 cup salsa
2 cups instant brown rice
1 cup corn

1 1/3 cups water

Spray large skillet with cooking spray and heat over medium high heat; add chicken. Cook four minutes on each side or until chicken is cooked through. Remove chicken from the skillet.

Add water and salsa; stir and bring to a boil.

Stir in rice and corn. Top with chicken; cover and cook on low heat for 5 minutes or until rice is tender. Serves 6.

Fruit-Crusted Strawberry-Kiwi Banana Cream Pie

Core Recipe
Servings | 6
Preparation Time | 10 min
Cooking Time | 0 min
Level of Difficulty | Easy

The filling for this attractive pie is made thick with evaporated skim milk instead of regular skim milk. Present it to your guests whole and then serve it with a pretty pie slicer.


1 oz fat-free sugar-free instant banana pudding and pie filling mix
2 cup fat-free evaporated milk
1 cups strawberries, thinly sliced
2 medium kiwifruit, peeled and sliced


Prepare pudding according to package directions but use fat-free evaporated milk instead of regular skim milk.

Cover bottom of a 9-inch glass pie plate with a layer of sliced strawberries.

Pour pudding on top of strawberries. Smooth pudding surface with a wooden spoon and garnish with remaining strawberries and with kiwi slices. Refrigerate pie for at least 2 hours. Slice into 6 pieces and serve

08-29-2004, 04:28 PM
I will be joing you on CORE starting tomorrow. I've been looking through my fridge and, while I don't have as detailed a menu planned out right now here's a general plan so far.

Breakfasts ( this week)
Oatmeal with a glass of milk and a piece of fruit
OR egg substitute omelette with a glass of milk and fruit or sliced tomatoes

OK my milk is 1%...I need two glasses a day, but since it isn't FF do I use my flex points? I'm inclined not to, just as I am limiting my portions on this and it is a healthy habit. I want to save those points for wine and cheese treat later...OK mostly wine ;)

Lunches are still being worked on as I need to go through my freezer and pantry. I have whole wheat bread in the house, so I will most likely have a turkey breast sandwich with fruit or baby carrots. I eat my sandwiches dry.

As for dinners, I cooked up a lot of chicken breast and a lean pork loin earlier in the week. I will concentrate on eating those along with all the fresh vegetables that I am getting out of the garden and from our organic produce delivery.
Snacks are baby carrots and popcorn

Will post more as the plan develops. I like reading what others are eating as it gives me ideas. Thank you for this thread.


08-29-2004, 05:24 PM
Hi RosieKate ~

:( Sorry, but the 1% milk is not a core food. It will cost you 2 flex points per 8 ounces. For the first time ever, I'm drinking Soy Milk, and it's actually very good!! I've decided not to play around with the program ...if I start eating and deciding on my own "to make them" a Core food, then it gets out of control, and I'll eat everything, and not care if it's Core ... :dizzy: Therefore, I'm going to give it my best shot, and not second guess Weight Watcher's ...I figure they know what they're doing. My week started Wednesday, and so far, so good ...I feel better, and 'lighter' already. Tonight, I'm going to try a recipe that I found for Cornbread ...all Core for sure!

08-29-2004, 05:33 PM
Hi Loosinit,

I think what RosieKate meant was, rather than count the points, she'll go get the ff milk. She isn't one to bend the rules. Btw, share the cornbread recipe if you don't mind! Like you, I also want to give this my best shot. Maybe I'll stay with it, maybe not. :D But actually, I've been doing Core to some extent already, since I don't eat a lot of processed food or junk food. Check back and let us know how your weigh in went, if you'd like!

08-29-2004, 07:13 PM
OK- I had another post, but it disappeared on me! 2nd one today...yuck.

I was chuckling because now I'll have to decide what to spend my flex points on, wine or milk, haha

Really, if I was trying to get out of anything, it would be drinking milk entirely. I don't like it and I know I get enough calcium via supplements and cruciferous veggies. I was trying to get used to it as part of the flex program. I've tried soy milk, but discovered it had more calories and fat than the milk I was drinking, so I stopped. Don't like the FF versions.

I get that the WW folks are just trying to get people to switch to FF, which is not a bad idea. I was a little grouchy that, to keep drinking this 1% milk I have, I would have to use 28 flex points a week. But, if it's FF ( which I REALLY don't like), I could drink a gallon a day. Oh well, such is life. I am going to try my best and give FF a chance....It's all about change, right gals?


08-29-2004, 11:33 PM
Core Cornbread! I gotta have that recipe. Can't imagine eating my pinto beans without the cornbread!
I love milk. Could be redlight food I i'm not careful. Cheese is. Even though I don't like ff cheese I will use it to stay on core cause if I start eating real cheese I am in real trouble!

08-30-2004, 10:07 AM
Day 1, here I come! Had my oatmeal and egg for breakfast, saving the orange for later. I've got a turkey breast I'm going to bake to use this week for lunches. Neal will smell that and look for pumpkin pie and cranberry sauce too, lol. Poor man isn't going to find them, lol.

Menu change - I will be using my canola oil for popcorn instead of on the chicken tonight.

How's it going so far for you?

08-30-2004, 06:26 PM
Day one seems to be off to a good start
Breakfast - scrambled egg substitute w/ sliced roma tomatoes, sliced peach, glass of ff milk
Lunch - Progresso chicken and vegetable soup, popcorn

so far so good..plan for the rest of the day
Snack - glass of milk, baby carrots, maybe a banana, tho' it could be cantaloupe ( I have a very ripe one that needs to be eaten soon)

Dinner - grilled boneless, skinless breast of chicken, baked potato w/ steamed broccoli. I may use some flex points and melt some lo-fat shredded mozzarella on the potato...we'll see. If I'm still hungry, I have a fresh green salad to munch on also.

after dinner, I will have a nightcap of herbal tea, maybe some more popcorn while I watch Last Comic Standing

I would love the Core Cornbread recipe, too. I have a corn pancake recipe, but am unsure on how to adapt it to core I figured I try out cornbread first,

The day has not been too difficult, but I am missing my cheese. I only have lo-fat versions in the house and don't want to blow many flex points on them. So I will be getting me some Laughing Cow in short order

08-30-2004, 07:35 PM
Here's the cornbread recipe. Enjoy!! How about a recipe for Oatmeal Pancakes ...tried them this morning ...Delish!! I'll post them next.

Jalapeno Cornbread/Core

1 1/2 cups yellow cornmeal
1 1/2 tsp baking powder
1/2 tsp baking soda
1/2 tsp salt
1/3 - 1/2 cup Splenda (according to taste ~ I used 1/3 cup)
1 cup plain fat free yogurt
1/2 cup fat free sour cream
1 Tbsp 'core' oil (I used Olive)
3 eggs
1 can drained corn
1 cup fat free cheddar cheese (grated)
2 finely chopped jalapeno's

Measure dry ingredients in a medium bowl, add rest of ingredients and stir until well blended. Pour into an 8 inch square pan that has been sprayed with a non-stick spray. Bake for 30-40 minutes or until golden brown and a toothpick inserted in middle comes out clean.

Cut into 9 wedges.

08-30-2004, 07:37 PM
Here is the pancake recipe. Once again ...Enjoy!

Oatmeal Pancake/core recipe

cup old-fashioned oatmeal
cup fat-free cottage cheese
2 eggs
1 tsp vanilla extract
tsp cinnamon
2 Splenda packets

Place all ingredients into a food processor or blender and process until smooth.

Mist a non-stick skillet (an 8 works great for this) with olive oil (I used Butter Pam). Add the batter and cook over medium until both sides are brown and the middle is firm.

Serves 1. Recipe makes 2 large pancakes.

NOTE: I sliced bananas, and put them on top of the raw pancakes (uncooked side) as I cooked them ...they were wonderful! You could also top with fresh fruit.

08-30-2004, 07:52 PM
I'm sure that these recipes are in the wrong place ...I'm not sure how to move them ...sorry 'bout that! :o

08-30-2004, 08:38 PM
Thanks - loosinit! I think the recipes are fine...this is where I came looking for them, :)

Cornmeal and oatmeal are faves of mine..I'm glad to see some recipes I can use and stay OP
Thanks, Katy

08-30-2004, 09:56 PM
Loosinit, yep, this is the right place. We don't have a special place for Core recipes here at JL - just regular and lite ones. I'm hoping we can keep all Core stuff on this one thread, at least until we see how it goes. Thanks so much for sharing.

Katy - I waited too long for the rest of my cantaloupe - it was bad, which I didn't know til I took a bite, ewwww. But I just moved on to strawberries instead.

I have done well so far, but forgot to mention that I put 1 T. brown sugar on my oatmeal this morning. So I used 3 flex points for the day instead of just 2. It was a little difficult to not have my Peanut Butter Captain Crunch for a snack today, lol, but I survived.

Gotta go check in at chit chat, but I'll post tomorrow's menu in the morning.

08-30-2004, 10:24 PM
Today's menu:
Breakfast: Oatmeal Pancakes w/ banana slices

Lunch: 'Core' chili, and Jalapeno Corn Bread and a nectarine

Snack: Chocolate ff pudding w/ banana

Dinner: Fritatta (g pepper, onion, baby red potatoes, eggbeaters, basil, tomato and soy cheese) and a nectarine

Before bed Snack: Apple and Soy milk

08-31-2004, 09:20 AM
Both of your daily menus sound very healthy and very Core. :)

Here's mine for today:

B - toasted English muffin (2.5 fp), Canadian bacon, egg white, orange (going for the daily Vitamin C)
L - tomato soup w/milk, turkey salad, 5 saltines (1 fp), apricots
S - leftover soup
D - tossed salad, boneless pork tenderloin, baked potato w/salsa, green beans, milk
S - popcorn

That will bring my flex points to 6.5. Since I am doing this for 5 days instead of 7, (my wi is Saturday) the total flex allowed is 25. My only problem so far is not having sugar in the mid-afternoon. Once I get past that, I'll be ok.

My family was not very happy with the brown rice last night. They are used to Uncle Ben's wild rice, with only 1/2 of the flavor packet added. What can I add to it next time to make it more flavorful? Any particular spices?


08-31-2004, 12:18 PM
Jana - I cook brown rice in chicken broth, and my family seems to like it just fine. Sometimes Molly McButter adds a little zip, too.

Yesterday went well, I thought. I used 2 flex points to have some Butterball FF turkey with my afternoon snack of baby carrots. I started crashing in the afternoon, too Jana. Really started missing those carbs. I had a cup of coffee, which helped. I actually read that in a magazine somehwere. Some people just crash in the afternoon, this doc's recommendation was coffee or green tea, and maybe a little protein like string cheese. It helped me yesterday. Thank goodness there weren't any Frutios in the house, or I might have gone a little nuts.

today's menu

Breakfast - oatmeal, w/ 1 tb of soy nut butter ( using 2 Flex points), apple slices

Lunch - probably tuna and something, maybe eat up the green salad or get to that cantaloupe that is still sitting on my counter.

snack - popcorn and fruit. DS wants some FF pudding and sugar-free jello, so we might make up some of that today and have it for a snack

Dinner - salmon, brown rice, cooked chard

dessert - fruit or FF pudding

08-31-2004, 12:47 PM
Someone mentioned a corn bread recipe-I found this one online at WW but there isn't one that is CORE. It is 3 points. Anyway, thought I would share.


1 cup uncooked cornmeal, yellow
1 cup all-purpose flour
2 tsp. baking powder
3/4 tsp table salt
1/2 tsp baking soda
14 3/4 oz cream-style corn, canned
1/2 cup buttermilk
2 large egg whites
2 tsp. corn oil

1. Preheat oven to 400% coat an 8 in square cake pan with cooking spray.

2. Combine cornmeal, flour, baking powder, salt and baking soda in a large bowl. Mix well with a fork, then make a well int he center; set aside.

3. Combine creamed corn, buttermilk, egg whites and oil in medium bowl: mix until blended. Fold mixture into dry ingredients; mix until blended. Pour batter into prepared pan and smooth the top.

4. Bake until a wooden pick inserted near the center comes out clean, about 20 minutes. Allow to cool on a wire rack for 10 minutes. Remove from pan; cool completely before cutting into 8 squares.

3 points.

08-31-2004, 01:01 PM
Cristi - that recipe sounds worth every bit of the 3 points! Thank you for sharing it.

Katy - do you worry about Vitamin C, or does cantaloupe have that? I should know, considering my geographic location, lol. Thanks for the ideas on the rice. Your menu sounds good to me. Instead of the standard dill, we love salmon with teriyaki sauce (core) on it, like how it is served at Applebee's.

It's too soon for me to publicly state my opinion of Core, but let me just say I won't be throwing away my point's calculator!


08-31-2004, 01:43 PM
I hope you girls don't mind...but I'm just watching how you're doing this week on this before I attempt it. I want to see if you think it's worth it at the end of the week.

Now...isn't that an excuse or what?! :)

08-31-2004, 03:17 PM
I'm having a tough time... I just atedouble peanut butter and graham crackers that were NOT on my menu. Now I have to count 11 points - that's all of today's, all of tomorrow's, and some of Thursday's!! :o So technically, I am still OP, and let me tell you, I'm still well within my regular points range, even counting what I'm having for dinner tonight! I think maybe I'm trying too hard to limit the Core foods, and that's making me too hungry?

I forgot about the orange from breakfast, and have no idea how! I even came in here and posted to Katy about Vitamin C!! Then I only had about 2 oz. turkey and 1 cup of milk for lunch and none of the soup and saltines. When I went in to fix the soup, I just went for the pb & graham crackers! Letting myself get too hungry was probably the problem?

I had 25 FP for the 5 days, and have consumed 16 of them already between yesterday (3) and today (13!)! That leaves 9 for 3 more days.... well, that's do-able!

Katy, how's it going for you? Better than me, I hope!

08-31-2004, 05:27 PM
Jana - I take a Vitamin C supplement - big follower of Linus Pauling. I believe it helps the immune system, plus its water soluble, so I don't worry about getting too much. I also take a calcium citrate ( citracal), vitamin E, and a multivitamin.

I used 4 flex points for lunch today and ate some leftover homemade pizza. Followed it up with some FF/sugar free pudding and 1/2 cantaloupe. I reserve the right to improvise as the day progresses...:)

My thoughts so far after 1.5 days of core:
I love being unlimited on fruits and vegetables - I think any healthy food plan should be this way.

I think they are a bit screwy with the dairy. I don't like alot of ff dairy, but I am trying. It is a way to get protein without alot of calories. I'm going to see how the week plays out before i have a more firm opinion about this. For instance, they have soy milk on their No count. They don't stipulate FF or not. I know that soy milk is higher in cals and fat than 1% milk, yet 1% has to be flex point food. Also the Soy nut butter I ate this morning had the same fat/cals as a glass of soy milk, but it is also flex. These are quibbles, and I am trying to be a good "core" gal here......just some observations really.

If I were more of a meat eater, I think I would be loving the core plan, but I'm not, so that's probably why I'm getting hungry.


08-31-2004, 05:31 PM
Forgot to mention I am on Day 2 with 28 flex points left... we'll see how happy I am, oh , say, Friday evening!

Maybe we need to eat larger helpings of the no count foods...I did have 2 cups of oatmeal this morning and it did keep me satisfied til lunch. i ate the pizza more out of desire to not see it go to waste than anything else. So far it is 1:30 and I haven't started craving anything yet...better than yesterday

08-31-2004, 05:55 PM
Katy, sounds like you're doing ok! I feel a lot better now than when I was here earlier, lol. I'm not even starting to get hungry for a snack after the pb & graham crackers and will serve dinner a little later than usual.

I don't think I'll have any more problems now that I know to eat enough. And no, I'm not real big on meat, either. I also don't understand the dairy restrictions. They will probably have to iron out the kinks like they did with the fiber snafu a year or two ago. Did you see at official WW's where they are roasting garbanzo beans and eating them like fritos or something? LOL!! But whatever works, I say, go for it! Just never thought of those as a "crunchy snack" choice.

My only problem now is, following a list seems so much like a "diet" where counting points did not. For example, we have weiner roasts several times in the fall. With flex, I would be able to count the turkey hot dog and lite bun in my daily allowance, but with Core, they are both an additional points foods that go against the weekly total.

Oh well, onward and downward! I'll post my tomorrow menu later tonight.

08-31-2004, 07:58 PM
I was poking around the WW forum and read that, once you get to goal, you get an additional 28 point added to your weekly 35. That makes this all seem a little easier to bear, I think. So, at maintenance, you'd be looking at a diet of unlimited lean or FFmeats/dairy, fruits and veggies, and 9 points a day of "other". something to look forward to....

08-31-2004, 09:16 PM
Katy, That is really good news for the people who stay with Core.. However, I think that as soon as my feet hit the floor Saturday morning, I am done with it! Although I am fine now, what I said about this seeming too much like a diet is true... no way could I do this for long! But I will finish until my wi like I said I would. Here's my menu for tomorrow....

B - western omelet made of 1 egg, 2 egg whites, tomatoes, onion and green peppers; 1 slice toast (1 FP) and canned plums.
L - tossed salad w/ turkey; 1 cup ff/sf banana pudding with 1 crushed graham cracker sprinkled on top. (1FP)
S - 1 c. ff cottage cheese and 2 clementines
D - cinnamon apples; spiced round steak; pasta salad made with whole wheat rotini, ff Italian dressing, celery, seeded cukes & tomatoes; baby carrots
S- popcorn

Fruits usually taste best to me fresh, but I love canned plums! Also, did you notice that you have to eat 2 (yes two) cups of cottage cheese for it to count as a dairy serving? (Check out page 38!) But there is no way I can eat all that! I guesss you notices that I am trying real hard to get in my graham cracker by topping the pudding with it, lol. More than one way to skin a cat, right? The spices I use on the round steak is Mrs. Dash salt-free Grilling Blends. I also sometimes use it on hamburgers and roasts in the crock pot, and it is so good!

Well, you can't say I don't plan ahead, lol. But I am so used to doing this after 7 months of WW!

What's your plan for manana?

08-31-2004, 11:43 PM
Well - today just got all thrown off..just one of those days I guess. My DS had a late afternoon playdate. I ate a laughing cow light and carrots and popcorn. Dinner was leftover chicken, potato and broccoli from last night. DS and I ate alot of FF/SF pudding 'cause it just tasted so good! We've decided that we really like jello fat free sugar free chocolate fudge. A much more palatable way to get that skim milk in...


Breakfast - repeat of oatmeal and soy nutbutter ( 1 flex)
Lunch - I need to eat up the green salad and cantaloupe, so that's the plan. Will top the salad with shrimp. I get them frozen from Costco and they are very good.
Dinner - will make what I planned on making tonight, salmon, brown rice and cooked chard. I'm going to try the teriyaki tip, Jana. Sounds yummy

In other news....
I have a ton of stuff in the freezer to use to make chicken stock, so I plan to try to get that done sometime this week, then make soup. I will most likely make lentil soup, then some kind of chicken and vegetable combo. Hopefully I can find the time to do it.


09-01-2004, 09:56 AM
Marti, you are welcome to read and comment and join! You have good ideas, so feel free, ok? That goes for any of the JLs!

Janette and Loosinit - how are you both doing this week?

Katy - I almost forgot, the teryaki sauce I use has honey in it, and that is really yummy. Not sure how to count honey on Core. Yes, I also love the ff/sf puddings and don't think I could do all the milk w/o them!

My breakfast omelet would've been better w/ a slice of cheese, but since I don't do ff cheese, I didn't use any at all. Not too bad.

I better hop on over to the chit chat site.... Janette and Loosinit, please come on over there when you have time and meet the others, ok?


09-02-2004, 08:28 AM
Katy - did you get your soup made? Sounds good, and healthy, too.

Here's my menu for today:

B - oatmeal w/milk and brown sugar (1fp)
L - vegetable beef soup and crackers (1 fp), apple
S - milk, mandarin orange slices
D - slaw w/ff mayo, herbed tiliapia, baked sweet potato wedges, green beans
S - popcorn

I was up to 13 flex points, plus 2 for yesterday and 2 for today, so that brings me to 17. That leave 8 for tomorrow, my last day, if I get through today okay.

09-02-2004, 01:13 PM
I'm doing okay ...I used some flex yesterday to have bagel with lunch, and I bought some Healthy choice Ice Cream sandwiches at Costco. So I have 20 points left, and I'm trying to go through til Monday. Costco had a case of the Progress soups that are No count, so I'll be eating those, yum. Didn't get to the homemade soup..just to busy and not home enough right now.

As the days wear on, it is getting easier. I think I just had develop a different mindset about the flex points. I'm used to viewing them as "extras", but with CORE, I think I need to view them as something that must be used and managed, not hoarded. Does that make sense? I'm still not a fan of FF diary, but I am a fan of unlimited fruits and veggies. So I'm leaning toward sticking with Core beyond this week. We'll see.
Breakfst - Egg substitute omelet w/ ff cheese and roma tomatoes
Snack - pears
Lunch - Progresso Beef and vegetable soup
Snack carrots and FF cream cheese
Dinner-pot roast w/ potatoes and vegetables

Today is Manic Organic day, so I'll be chowing on all the yummy fresh fruit...

09-02-2004, 03:11 PM
Hi Katy... I guess it's just you and me now! The Progresso Slow Cooked Vegetable Beef is just what I had for lunch! It was pretty good for a canned soup. The ingredients are nice and chunky, so I like that.

I, too, think it is easier as the days go by. I didn't have any trouble at all yesterday. I have to tell you, the banana pudding with the crushed graham cracker was sooooo good!! Today is a pain, because Neal and Katie don't like sweet potatoes and that is my starch for dinner. They like Kraft mac and cheese, and I don't, so I'm making that for them. That has nothing to do with Core, though... At least both dishes are super easy.

Good idea about how to think of the flex points! I like knowing I can grab extra fruit, too, but haven't done a lot of that. My "points" mentality cautions me needlessly, lol. I have been nibbling on the turkey.... it's hard to not think of the points incurred, though.

Have you seen the new Smart Ones dessert? It's Peanut Butter Pie and I bought a package today, but won't have one until after tomorrow. I haven't had any trouble with eating too many of the others. In fact I have one only once in awhile, and hope I can handle this the same way. Maybe that's why they package them only 2 in a box, lol!!

Enjoy your fruit!

09-03-2004, 01:14 AM
Jana: I am with you on sweet potatoes and yams. I could literally eat those everyday. I actually looked forawrd to holidays and if they arenot served, I am very sad. I coudl care less about the pies I want my sweet potatoes. every time I go to Road House Grill restaraunt I have a salad and the baked sweet potato. I just love it, I occasionally substitute it in soups, stews instead of regular potatoes and it makes a nice sweet surprise. Funny thing is as a child I would not try either yams or sweet potatoes because I said I didn't like them. I think it was more my mom telling me I wouldn't like them, she did that alot with foods I now LOVE. Anywho, I know that has nothing to do with this thread, but when I saw sweet potatoes I got up on my soap box. hee hee.

09-03-2004, 09:01 AM
Shanna, glad I found a kindred sweet potato lover. They make me fart, but oh well! :D I prefer them mashed with a fork, with some real butter and salt on them. I eat them, however, with Molly McButter and "lite" salt.

This is my last Core Day... :cp:

And here's my menu:

B- sandwich made of English muffin (2fp) Canadian bacon, egg
L - tomato soup w/ milk, crackers (1fp), grapes
S - tossed salad with orange slices
D - cranberry sauce, chicken breast, veggie medley, 1/3 c. butter noodles (3fp)
S - popcorn

So I will have finished the week with 2 flex points left over, even after my peanut butter, graham cracker debacle, lol.

I pray the scale will be good to me tomorrow!

09-03-2004, 04:49 PM
You've done really well, Jana - I'm sure the scale will be kind:)

My menu, I've discovered, gets improvised as the day goes on, lol. My pot roast wasn't done in time for dinner last night, so I had some leftover salmon with some fruit and SF jello.

I can see why you are going back to flex points..I mean, why mess with what has been working so well for you? I've been checking out the Core board here on 3FC, and there is definitely a gung-ho attitude over there. I'm afraid I don't have that kind of pumped-up attitude about Core, but I am liking it for now. I can see going back and forth between the two plans. I tend to need change now and again. I'm sure that approach is not what WW has in mind, lol!

B - egg sub omelete with lite cheese and pears
L - veggie beef and progresso soup, bagel w/ some soy nut butter ( 4 flex)

note: The other forum said soy nuts were core, so I'm not counting soy butter as flex anymore
snack - HC ice cream sandwich (2 flex)
dinner - the pot roast and veggies we didn't get to last night

I have 12 flex left to get me to Monday


09-04-2004, 08:22 AM
Katy - what exactly is soy nut butter? A margaine substitute? Well, you only have 2 more days on Core, then are you thinking of switching back to Flex for a week? I'll keep coming here to this thread while you are finishing up, to see how it's going for you. What's your menu for today? Yesterday was my easiest day yet! Not sure if that was due to the fact that I was getting used to it, or because in the back of my mind I knew it was the last day, lol.

I'm down 2 1/2 more pounds....

09-04-2004, 10:02 AM
Hi Jana
Soy nut butter is like peanut butter only crushed soy nuts. We keep it around as my DS had a peanut allergy. It is an excellent protein source - 1 serving has 7 g of protein.

WTG on the 2.5 pounds! Iwas down almost 2 when I weighed yesterday, but my WI is Monday, so we'll see. I'm such alittle flip-flopper. lol. I'll most likely do Core til I hit a plateau, then switch back to flex. Sometimes a change in program can shake me out of one of those things, so that's what I was thinking.

Haven't thought to much about my menu today...
B - oatmeal, milk, banana
Lunch - soup, carrots
dinner - something with a big green salad. I have leftover roast to eat up as well as some salmon so we'll see

snacks - SF jello and popcorn, apples

09-04-2004, 05:26 PM
good news, bad news situation -
Soy beans are core, soy nuts are not ,and soy nut butter is made from soy nuts, boo hoo

Good news - I added back my flex points, but it's almost a wash because I had activity points on some of those days. I had totally forgotten about activity points - that makes core a whole lot more bearable for me!

Shh - bad news again- I went to Izzy's for lunch and blew out all the rest of my flex on pizza - yikes! Now, I'll have to stick to core for the rest of today and tomorrow. If i want a piece of bread, I'm going to have to work for it, literally!

09-05-2004, 03:56 PM
Katy - well, at least it's all working out with the points. You have done well this week and I hope you see a nice loss tomorrow. Gina's mom started WW a week ago Wednesday and lost 6.2 her first week. But of course, it's different when a person has already been dieting. We've already lost the water weight, lol. So... back to the soy nut butter. Is this sold with the peanut butter, then, or would I need to go to a health food store for it?

Do you still think you'll do Core next week, too? See you at chit chat....

09-05-2004, 04:24 PM
I get soy nut butter at the nutrition section of our Fred Meyer's (Kroger's in other words)
..So i guess you'd have to look at health food stores, or organic groceries. You might have luck in the regular grocery, as these kinds of foods are gaining in popularity, at least in this part of the country.

See you over in Chit chat ( we don't have to keep this Core thread going...I know I'm going to get lazy about posting menus, but I appreciate your support over here we were both doing it)