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07-10-2012, 06:22 PM
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0/0/0
I have searched the forum and I can not seem to find the answer. Can a 0/0/0 item have a small amount of calories and still be allowed OP? Thanks in advance and sorry if it is already mentioned somewhere
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07-10-2012, 07:52 PM
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04/23/12~Kara
Join Date: Apr 2012
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part of the 0 is for calories, so technically no, 0cal/0fat/0carb is what I thougth it had to be.
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07-10-2012, 08:05 PM
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Started IPD 6-19-12
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My doctor said to be careful with the Walden Farms products and I Can't Believe it's not Butter spray. Because although they are calorie free for small amounts, if you use a lot of them it will begin to add up to calories.
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07-10-2012, 08:16 PM
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Began IP 3-29-2012
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I still chew Trident but only on piece at a time it says less than 1 Carb so that caught my eye.
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07-10-2012, 08:20 PM
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04/23/12~Kara
Join Date: Apr 2012
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I use walden farms very sparingly, butter not so much lol
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07-10-2012, 08:33 PM
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IP Round #3: 11/14/2023
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On the Phase 1 sheet 0/0/0 is referred to: "Anything not on this sheet must be zero Carb, zero Fat, and zero Sugar".
This is why 2 egg whites and chicken broth are allowed as 'free', as they have low calories, but more importantly no carbs, fat, or sugar. Its all protein.
And WF and Splenda do have calories and carbs, just not enough to be labeled by the FDA. This is one reason why coaches advise you to limit them. Example: 1 splenda packet has ~4 calories and ~.9g carbs.
Last edited by LizRR; 07-10-2012 at 08:38 PM.
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07-10-2012, 10:35 PM
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Started IP 3/26/12
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaypix
part of the 0 is for calories, so technically no, 0cal/0fat/0carb is what I thougth it had to be.
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It's 0 carbs/0 fat/0 sugar. I just checked my Phase 1 sheet - it's included there at the very bottom.
Last edited by evepet; 07-10-2012 at 10:35 PM.
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07-11-2012, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by usmcvet
I still chew Trident but only on piece at a time it says less than 1 Carb so that caught my eye.
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I have to be careful of the gum. I have been chewing way too much, especially when I am shoving 3 pieces of gum in my mouth at one time. Those trident pieces are small! The gum does save me on my weekly/nightly family outings to the ice cream shop, but I can easily chew 10-12 pieces in one day -- yikes, thats 10-12 g. carbs. I have to stop.
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07-11-2012, 09:23 AM
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Began IP 3-29-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by explore
I have to be careful of the gum. I have been chewing way too much, especially when I am shoving 3 pieces of gum in my mouth at one time. Those trident pieces are small! The gum does save me on my weekly/nightly family outings to the ice cream shop, but I can easily chew 10-12 pieces in one day -- yikes, thats 10-12 g. carbs. I have to stop.
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Yeah I used to chew two or three pieces at a time now it is one. I chew one piece form hours so it works for me.
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07-11-2012, 10:19 AM
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Started IP 12 Apr 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LizRR
On the Phase 1 sheet 0/0/0 is referred to: "Anything not on this sheet must be zero Carb, zero Fat, and zero Sugar".
This is why 2 egg whites and chicken broth are allowed as 'free', as they have low calories, but more importantly no carbs, fat, or sugar. Its all protein.
And WF and Splenda do have calories and carbs, just not enough to be labeled by the FDA. This is one reason why coaches advise you to limit them. Example: 1 splenda packet has ~4 calories and ~.9g carbs.
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I've been afraid to use chicken broth, where does it say that it is "free"?
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07-11-2012, 10:30 AM
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Junior Member
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0/0/0 is not necessarily 0/0/0 according to my coach.
According to the FDA website:
N8. Should a value of 47 calories be rounded up to 50 calories or rounded down to 45 calories?
Answer: Calories must be shown as follows:
50 calories or less--Round to nearest 5-calorie increment: Example: Round 47 calories to “45 calories”
Above 50 calories--Round to nearest 10-calorie increment: Example: Round 96 calories to “100 calories”
The total fat content for a serving of my product is 0.1 g. How should I declare fat and calories from fat?
Answer: Because it is present at a level below 0.5 g, the level of fat is expressed as 0 g. Calories from fat would also be expressed as zero. 21 CFR 101.9(c)(1)(i), 21 CFR 101.9(c)(2)
http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceComp.../ucm064894.htm
Same goes for 0 sugar
So a 0/0/0 piece of gum could potentially have 0.4g of sugar and they would round it down to zero. Chew 10 pieces in a day and you've just upped it to 4g of sugar. EVERYTHING in moderation!
Last edited by Cas77; 07-11-2012 at 10:33 AM.
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07-11-2012, 11:26 AM
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IP Round #3: 11/14/2023
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shathom
I've been afraid to use chicken broth, where does it say that it is "free"?
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It is all dependent on the coach and the product - the kind I buy has 5 calories in 8 oz all from 1g protein. This meets the "0 CARB / 0 FAT / 0 SUGAR" advisement on the Phase 1 sheet and my coach approves me to use 1 cup/day in my soups.
I am also approved to use 2 egg whites/day MAX, which contributes ~35 calories all from ~8g protein - again meeting the "0/0/0" advisement on the sheet. I use the chicken broth allotment on weekdays, and use the 2 egg whites on weightlifting days and the weekends in my packet recipes (usually crispy cereal pancakes or pudding waffles)
Again - check your labels, log your food, and clear with your individual coach.
Last edited by LizRR; 07-11-2012 at 11:28 AM.
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07-11-2012, 11:30 AM
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IP Round #3: 11/14/2023
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Plano, Texas
Posts: 2,382
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Height: 5'5"/49yo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cas77
0/0/0 is not necessarily 0/0/0 according to my coach.
According to the FDA website:
N8. Should a value of 47 calories be rounded up to 50 calories or rounded down to 45 calories?
Answer: Calories must be shown as follows:
50 calories or less--Round to nearest 5-calorie increment: Example: Round 47 calories to “45 calories”
Above 50 calories--Round to nearest 10-calorie increment: Example: Round 96 calories to “100 calories”
The total fat content for a serving of my product is 0.1 g. How should I declare fat and calories from fat?
Answer: Because it is present at a level below 0.5 g, the level of fat is expressed as 0 g. Calories from fat would also be expressed as zero. 21 CFR 101.9(c)(1)(i), 21 CFR 101.9(c)(2)
http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceComp.../ucm064894.htm
Same goes for 0 sugar
So a 0/0/0 piece of gum could potentially have 0.4g of sugar and they would round it down to zero. Chew 10 pieces in a day and you've just upped it to 4g of sugar. EVERYTHING in moderation!
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0/0/0 is not necessarily 0/0/0 according to my coach. - This is exactly what my coach says. I was advised to keep all the extras at 6 or less/day and just assume every freebie is adding 0.9999999g carbs and 4.9999999 calories per serving. She trusts no one - says that the products do everything they can to squeeze just under FDA guidelines.
Last edited by LizRR; 07-11-2012 at 11:30 AM.
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07-11-2012, 12:25 PM
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Member
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Thanks everyone, I found a salad dressing that is 0/0/0, however, has 20 calories per tbsp. I am trying to stay 100% on plan, but I hate WF dressings
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07-11-2012, 12:31 PM
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Started IP 12 Apr 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LizRR
It is all dependent on the coach and the product - the kind I buy has 5 calories in 8 oz all from 1g protein. This meets the "0 CARB / 0 FAT / 0 SUGAR" advisement on the Phase 1 sheet and my coach approves me to use 1 cup/day in my soups.
I am also approved to use 2 egg whites/day MAX, which contributes ~35 calories all from ~8g protein - again meeting the "0/0/0" advisement on the sheet. I use the chicken broth allotment on weekdays, and use the 2 egg whites on weightlifting days and the weekends in my packet recipes (usually crispy cereal pancakes or pudding waffles)
Again - check your labels, log your food, and clear with your individual coach.
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LizRR, Thanks for the info, I weigh in tomorrow and will ask my coach. I've been dying to make soups or even use broth to simmer protein in.
Last edited by shathom; 07-11-2012 at 12:32 PM.
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