Ideal Protein Diet - Any slow losers see things pick up?




loriab
08-04-2011, 12:39 PM
I am feeling great on this program and don't want to be a downer but I'm really having a hard time staying content on this plan. I feel like I work so hard and am so diligent but I'm not seeing the losses that I'd hoped for. I had a great first week as expected but only lost 2 in the second week and I'm now more than half way through week 3 and I'm down only .9. And beyond numbers on the scale, I'm not feeling a huge difference in my clothes either. Have any of you guys started as a slow loser then maybe see things pick up later on? I'm so afraid that my body has already caught on to what I am doing and has just slowed everything down?

I'm a regular exerciser so this week I've tried adding egg whites in the afternoon thinking that maybe I wasn't getting enough protein. Next week I will try stopping the workouts completely to see if they might be the problem. I enjoy walking so I should be ok with just walking nightly after dinner (once the 100 degree temperatures settle down).

Have any of you seen slow losses in the beginning then have things pick up? Or any advice as to what I might be doing wrong. Oh and one more thing, my 2 losses in the past 10 days have both been after having steak for dinner. Strange coincidence huh?


wuv2bloved
08-04-2011, 12:44 PM
I am feeling great on this program and don't want to be a downer but I'm really having a hard time staying content on this plan. I feel like I work so hard and am so diligent but I'm not seeing the losses that I'd hoped for. I had a great first week as expected but only lost 2 in the second week and I'm now more than half way through week 3 and I'm down only .9. And beyond numbers on the scale, I'm not feeling a huge difference in my clothes either. Have any of you guys started as a slow loser then maybe see things pick up later on? I'm so afraid that my body has already caught on to what I am doing and has just slowed everything down?

I'm a regular exerciser so this week I've tried adding egg whites in the afternoon thinking that maybe I wasn't getting enough protein. Next week I will try stopping the workouts completely to see if they might be the problem. I enjoy walking so I should be ok with just walking nightly after dinner (once the 100 degree temperatures settle down).

Have any of you seen slow losses in the beginning then have things pick up? Or any advice as to what I might be doing wrong. Oh and one more thing, my 2 losses in the past 10 days have both been after having steak for dinner. Strange coincidence huh?


Are you drinking all of your water and more? are you eating your 4 cups of veggies? how much protein are you eating for your dinner?

Bellamack
08-04-2011, 12:45 PM
I would like to know that too, since I am a slooowwww loser.


loriab
08-04-2011, 12:54 PM
Water: I drink no less than 100 oz a day. I have 24 usually before work then usually 74 oz during the work day then usually at least another 24 after work and with dinner.

Protein - when I eat fish I have 7 oz, when I each chicken turkey I usually have 6 - 7 oz and the couple of times that I've had beef I had 6 oz.

Veggies - have 2 cup contairs that I bring my veggies in every day. I measure everything out exactly except for when I make a salad. When I have salads I'm not as diligent in measuring.

Another culprit could be the Ken's light dressing that I use which has 3 g of sugar per 2 tbs serving. I never come close to 2 tbs but it does have sugar so maybe that's the problem. I bought white vinegar last night so that I could make my own dressing this weekend.

loriab
08-04-2011, 12:57 PM
I'm also not limiting myself to only sea salt. The sea salt that my coach gave me is mixed with sand and I can't stand the texture so I bought a sea salt grinder but it's not exactly what I got from the program. I also sometimes use table salt but I'd think with all of the water I drink water retention wouldn't be a problem. Plus I have a scale that measures body fat and water and my water is pretty consistenly at 48.1%.

wuv2bloved
08-04-2011, 01:12 PM
I see that you lost 7lbs your first week then 2lbs that is about average. I wouldn't worry too much. Bella has been the same for 18 days or so, so we are trying to figure out what is going on with her. You don't have 50+pounds to lose so maybe your losses will only be 1-2lbs a week. Make sure your sea salt is not bleached, my coach said that we can have other types of sea salt just make sure it wasn't bleached(brown) and make sure it was white. I would stay away from the table salt as much as possible. I would also stay away from the dressings with the sugar and stick to the EVOO or vinegar.

jennydoodle
08-04-2011, 01:36 PM
I am a slow loser too, and am right around the same starting weight, height, etc... My coach told me that because I was fairly close to my goal to start with, that my losses would be around 2# per week. When people have 100+ pounds to lose, they lose it faster.

I also exercise 5-6x per week and I always eat 4 packets on workout days. Even though I consider myself a slow loser, I have been fairly consistant and I am happy that the pounds are coming off. They are coming off way faster than they ever did with any other program. My inches lost has also been incredible and I credit that to the exercise. Because of the exercise, I am losing inches, but I am tight. I don't have lose or hanging skin. Now you can see my muscles instead of having fat or lose skin hanging around them. My recommendation is not to stop exercising, but to increase your protein. Here is my typical day:

9:00- IP packet
12:30- 8 oz of lean protein, 2 cups of veggies, salad (with EVOO homemade dressing)
4:00- IP restricted item
5:30-6:30- Workout
6:30/6:45- IP packet (usually the RTD chocolate)
8:30- IP packet, 2 cups veggies, salad (with same dressing)

Hope this helps! Most importantly is for you to stick with it and stay OP! You will see I had a couple of slow weeks, but overall my average is around 2# and I am very happy with that. And I think that EVERYONE has slow weeks, regardless of the amount they have to lose.

rachelearth
08-04-2011, 01:42 PM
I read old threads a lot. I was just reading this one
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/236260-not-losing.html
some people suggest switching dinner and lunch, eating the protein for lunch and IP packet for dinner. I did that during the weekend. I am not sure if this is going to help. But maybe worth a try.

Momto2cs
08-04-2011, 02:15 PM
I agree with jenny doodle. I also kept exercising and added a packet and a couple egg whites. No loose skin and great muscle tone was the result.

rachelearth
08-04-2011, 02:24 PM
There is also this thread
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/210170-ideal-protein-have-not-lost-pound-3-weeks.html
I am reading it now and I like this reasoning
A cup of broccoli or cauliflower is around 5 carbs (4.6 broccoli, 5.2 cauli -both raw) so that's 20 carbs from just the veg, plus your restricted pack (8) and drink (5) and pudding (3) add up to 36 total carbs. Try some mushrooms, spinach, cucumbers and other lower carb veg. That might help. If you are hungry add them to a big romaine salad.

I see that you lost 7lbs your first week then 2lbs that is about average. I wouldn't worry too much. Bella has been the same for 18 days or so, so we are trying to figure out what is going on with her. You don't have 50+pounds to lose so maybe your losses will only be 1-2lbs a week. Make sure your sea salt is not bleached, my coach said that we can have other types of sea salt just make sure it wasn't bleached(brown) and make sure it was white. I would stay away from the table salt as much as possible. I would also stay away from the dressings with the sugar and stick to the EVOO or vinegar.

The sea salt I was given is white and brown and I can't find anything like that. Is just regular sea salt ok

I am starting to think high carb veggies could be a big problem if we eat them every day! Here is another response from the the thread I just posted:
started the IP program last week 02/24/11 weighing in at 152lbs. Breakfast: Wildberry yogurt Lunch: 1 Protien bar or drink and 2 cups of broccoli. Dinner: 5 oz chicken on top of lettuce with 2 cups of broccoli mixed in. I'm drinking all of the water and taking the suppliments. I do smoke and wonder how that effects IP. I've not cheated and have my weigh in tomorrrow. I have weighed myself on my scale at home and haven't lost a pound.
Reply
YOu are missing a protein in there. You are supposed to have a snack at some point during the day. This could be affecting your weight loss

From the same thread a few suggestions maybe:
For 3 weeks, I lost nothing, gained 1lb and lost it the next week. So esssentially no action in those three weeks. I was very frustrated. I found this site and got some ideas.
1. I cut out the bar I was having for snack at night (thus having no restricted foods) to keep my daily carb intake low.
2. I changed by lunch vegetables to only raw food (celery/cucumber)
3. I eliminated cabbage (green). The vote on that was mixed, according to members of this forum.
4. I already drank 72 oz of water per day and increased it to 96 oz.
5. My coach put me on a detox (an IP protocol) thinking my liver and kidneys had become sluggish.
6. And finally I weighed my frozen veggies before cooking so they equalled the 2 cups, thinking that measuring 2 cups cooked was too much.

Well I lost 5 pounds, I was elated. I have kept that up and my scale this morning had me up a pound.

The only medication I take is for thyroid. I am taking the IP supplements.

Another old thread, lol
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/ideal-protein-diet/234315-no-weight-loss-almost-3-weeks.html

I am not sure what to think about these posts! Any thoughts?

So I went almost 4 weeks with no weight loss. I was following the plan exactly, not cheating and I drinking over 3 liters of water a day and nothing was happening. Needless to say I got VERY frustrated! I recently had a two week vacation and decided that I was going to enjoy it! For two weeks I was off the diet, eating whatever I wanted. After vacation I decided that I would try to start over again. I have been back on phase one for three days. Today was my weigh in, which I was dreading! I got on the scale and to my surprise, I had not gained any weight from my two weeks off the diet and I was actually down 5 pounds! When I gave up on the diet I was 144. My weigh in today I was 139. It's so weird but it has motivated me to finish the program. We'll see what happens in the next couple weeks, as I'm close to my goal.



I was frustrated as well. I gave up on plan slightly, but still remained low-carb. Finally a friend convinced me that I just needed to eat, so I had one really big cheat day (or as big as I could make it considering my stomach is so small now Anyway, that was a little over a week ago and since then I've lost 4 pounds! My belief (not being a dr, or having any science to base it on) is that I was in some sort of 'starvation mode' and once I showed my body that there was food, it started losing again. No idea if I'm right, but the weight loss started the day after the cheat. Makes no sense to me I think my stall lasted almost 4 weeks! After a little more than 10 weeks on the program however, I'm averaging a loss of 1.9 pounds per week, including the big stall.



My friend that has been on the diet since January and lost over 35 lbs, suggested you cheat when you start to stall. She said one good day of eating what ever you want. (Can you imagine WHAT EVER you want?) BUt it worked for her twice. it kick strated the process again and she kept on loosing.



My sister and I are both on this diet. She started before me and is on week 8. She has lost 25 pounds. She cheats every Sunday and has never stalled on her loss. I have been doing it with no cheats except one day in week 3 we had a treat day at work and I had anything I wanted. I am now on week 5 averaging over 3 pounds a week. I think there is some logic to a cheat day even though my coach says no cheats are allowed.

Pauley
08-04-2011, 03:23 PM
My coach said last night when I asked that if you have no success for a few weeks, she will fax in your food journal to the IP corporate office where it will be reviewed by doctors and they will provide suggestions.

She herself had 3-4 weeks of almost no loss and it was determined she needed extra packets to compensate for her high activity level. Her body went into "starve" mode. She started losing as soon as she added more protein. Don't know if that's your issue, but it's a thought.

loriab
08-04-2011, 03:28 PM
Wow, thanks to all of you for the many responses. I have already started adding 2 egg whites in the afternoon as a snack so maybe over the weekend or next week I'll try having my protein meal for lunch instead of dinner and see if any of these work. I think that there is definitely something to the whole starvation mode concept. There is no other explaination for eating less than 1000 cals a day and barely any carbs and not losing weight quickly. I just wish I knew what my body was telling me. If I knew I'd do it. Haha, kinda reminds me of my talks with God. If I knew what he wanted me to do I'd do it but I'm not the best at listening I guess.

And I also wish I had a doctor who I could talk to about this with. I know that my doctor would consider this an unhealthy way of eating so I can't asks them but I also think there is something to be said for checking liver and kidney health. I know that I've had poor blood test results in this area in the past but things are always ok on second testing. Oh where is that crystal ball?

loriab
08-04-2011, 03:42 PM
Oh, and my normal vegetables of choice are Asparagus, mushrooms, cucumbers, spinach, red, orange and yellow peppers and zucchini. I've had broccoli and cauliflower a couple of times for a change but I don't eat them often. I also LOVE okra but since I love it so much and it's so filling I feel like it might be higher so I only have that on occassion.

Krista7382
08-04-2011, 04:21 PM
Oh, and my normal vegetables of choice are Asparagus, mushrooms, cucumbers, spinach, red, orange and yellow peppers and zucchini. I've had broccoli and cauliflower a couple of times for a change but I don't eat them often. I also LOVE okra but since I love it so much and it's so filling I feel like it might be higher so I only have that on occassion.

Are we allowed Okra? When I look it up the sugars seemed too high.

loriab
08-04-2011, 04:39 PM
I've only had it twice since I started but it is on my list. I wonder if that might be the hidden offender? I love okra but certainly not enough to make it slow down my weight loss. I haven't had it since last week but I planned to have it tonight so I'll change that plan quickly. Thanks for pointing it out.

wuv2bloved
08-04-2011, 04:44 PM
I've only had it twice since I started but it is on my list. I wonder if that might be the hidden offender? I love okra but certainly not enough to make it slow down my weight loss. I haven't had it since last week but I planned to have it tonight so I'll change that plan quickly. Thanks for pointing it out.

I eat pickled okra everyday for lunch and it hasn't stopped my weight loss. Okra is allowed and my coach said we can have it pickled so I eat it :)

loriab
08-04-2011, 04:45 PM
I just double checked Okra and found that it has 15g carbs. That is super high. Thank you so much for pointing that out. I knew it was too good to be true. I'm so thankful that I trusted my instinct that it was too good to be true and only had it twice in the past 2.5 weeks. If it were up to me this is one of the foods that I could eat daily. I will scratch this off of the list so that I no longer even think about this vegetable until I'm on to later phases.

Thanks again to all of you. I LOVE these boards. What would I do without all of you? I never want to find out.

2RIDEROLLERCOAST
08-04-2011, 05:29 PM
The sea salt I was given is white and brown and I can't find anything like that. Is just regular sea salt okHi, i don't know if you have Superstores near you (could be a canadian brand name) but if you do go into their organic section and "REDMOND sea salt "Realsalt" is there. You can also purchase online from Redmond, just google it.

karenfromtexas
08-04-2011, 06:02 PM
loriab,

It could be that you're not eating enough protein and/or calories, which can stall weight loss. It could also be, as you pointed out, the sugar in the dressing. Are you consuming 2-3 tsp olive oil/day and taking fish oil as recommended in the protocol? If not, that could be another reason.

I've had success (so far 21.4 lbs & over 32 inches lost overall in 7 weeks OP) by following a kind of hybrid phase 1/phase 2 plan. I call it phase 1.5. I follow phase one all except for lunch, when I eat 4 oz. lean protein plus 2 cups vegetables. (I do the same thing at dinner and still eat a total of 3 IP products/day.) This was advised by my coach about 4 weeks ago because I was really hungry in the mid-afternoon. I wonder if it would work for you, too?

One other thing-if you've had kidney or liver problems in the past, it is imperative that you have periodic tests to monitor these issues. This program is higher in protein and some minerals than many plans, and it could be overtaxing your kidneys and/or liver, which can be very dangerous. Can you talk it over with your doctor?

Good luck and let us know what happens... :)

patns
08-04-2011, 08:36 PM
I am interested that you noticed a drop after you had steak as I had the same experience. Actually I had the drop after I ate at The Keg, had their 8 ounce steak and a side salad which I asked them to put olive oil on.

That got me thinking about years ago when I was on the Diet Centre plan. It was the only plan I have ever lost on before IP, unfortunately it closed down in the area. But what I was thinking was they had individual packages of dressing which contained oil. I think you had to have two a day and the theory was you have to eat some fat in order to burn fat. I'm was reading that Dr Tien originally recommended 3 tablespoons of oil a day but coaches later lowered that.

If you follow this very closely it is easy to have no fat. No scientific knowledge on my part about this but it is something I am wondering about.

jennydoodle
08-04-2011, 09:00 PM
Yes, having the olive oil is very important! If you are substituting the dressing for your olive oil, I would suggest switching to a home made dressing that uses olive oil. I have been using the Good Seasons Italian packet and making it the "less oil" way. Are you familiar with Good Seasons? It is a very good dressing and it is basically olive oil, cider vinegar, water and the packet of seasonings (which is less than 1 carb per serving).

JellyMae87
08-04-2011, 09:33 PM
Yes, having the olive oil is very important! If you are substituting the dressing for your olive oil, I would suggest switching to a home made dressing that uses olive oil. I have been using the Good Seasons Italian packet and making it the "less oil" way. Are you familiar with Good Seasons? It is a very good dressing and it is basically olive oil, cider vinegar, water and the packet of seasonings (which is less than 1 carb per serving).

Where are you getting these at the "normal" grocery store?

jennydoodle
08-04-2011, 10:19 PM
Yes, Good Seasons is in the salad dressing aisle of any grocery store and even at my Target Super Store. The first time you buy it, buy the carafe so you have the correct proportions of vinegar, water and oil. I believe the carafe comes with 2 packets of dressing mix. After you have the carafe, you can just buy packets of the dressing seasonings. Olive oil and apple cider vinegar can both be found at the grocery store and super stores.

crash302
08-04-2011, 10:21 PM
I noticed I have slowed down also. I am going to increase my water. I think I have been drinking less

nelle2002
08-06-2011, 09:04 AM
I am on my 5th day of Phase 1 and have not lost a pound :(

Here is my meal plan:

bkst:drink packet
lunch:lettuce with 2c allowed vegies, drink packet
dinner:5oz meats or 7oz fish, 2 c brocolli or cauliflower,
snack:drink packet
supplements, lots of water,sea salt and olive oil

I did a week of Phase 1 a while back and lost 6 lbs the first week! I think I may have even gained a pound or two this time Yikes!! Nelle:^:

Calypso
08-06-2011, 01:52 PM
I too am a very slow loser, apprx 2lbs a week. I find if I substitute a salad with veggies such as cucumbers, mushrooms, onions and thin sliced fennel instead of say zucchini, peppers, broccoli or cauliflower I tend to loose more weight then.

patns
08-06-2011, 02:16 PM
I am on my 5th day of Phase 1 and have not lost a pound :(

Here is my meal plan:

bkst:drink packet
lunch:lettuce with 2c allowed vegies, drink packet
dinner:5oz meats or 7oz fish, 2 c brocolli or cauliflower,
snack:drink packet
supplements, lots of water,sea salt and olive oil

I did a week of Phase 1 a while back and lost 6 lbs the first week! I think I may have even gained a pound or two this time Yikes!! Nelle:^:


I didn't see any change by day 5 on phase 1 but had a loss the next two days.