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IsabellaOlivia
07-05-2011, 10:21 AM
I've decided to add more organic food to my diet and was wondering what experiences you guys have had with organic food.


JenMusic
07-05-2011, 11:21 AM
I don't buy exclusively organic, but I do consult this list to help me decide what MUST be organic. It's a list of the worst foods as far as pesticide residue are concerned:

Dirty Dozen (http://www.ewg.org/foodnews/)

In addition, I try to pay attention to where food comes from. If the organically grown food is flown in from Chile, I don't buy it, period. That's more of an environmental concern than a health concern, yes, but it's all interconnected in my opinion.

It can definitely be overwhelming - local, organic, seasonal - and many people balk at the added dollar cost of buying food this way, but I think it's important to remember that there are hidden costs to the cheaper food we buy.

foodmasochist
07-05-2011, 01:08 PM
my experiences: if you can't afford it all, shoot for fruits and veggies you won't peel (ie, strawberrys). Many of the pesticides come off in the peeling. It's not perfect, but an easy way to focus when you can't afford it all.

Additionally, i look for store brands of organic items. i live in the midwest in a very vegan-challenging area and even we have those.

Also be prepared for it all to be less pretty and plump. The fruits and veggies may not last as long or be as gigantic or as sweet as what we are used to. Afterall, the chemicals are used to enhance the "end product." Also may i suggest organic honey. yum.

(yes, i know, some vegans don't eat honey. i do).

~fm~


kaplods
07-05-2011, 04:17 PM
While it's much better in Northcentral Wisconsin than it was in Illinois, good fresh organic produce is hard to come by. It's either in bad shape or quadruple the price, and sadly is often both. There's no way, I'm paying $5 a lb for wrinkled apples. In cold storage, apples can last almost a year, so I always wonder exactly how long these have been off the tree and where they were stored (in the sun?)

I do buy organic occasionally, but usually when the price is good, which isn't often. I do buy the organic baby greens and fuji apples at Sam's Club because the prices are extaordinary (even compared to non-organics).

In the summer I buy local. The local certified organic vendors tend to be extremely pricey (and they look too perfect. When I don't see even one insect bite on the leaves, I know they're using SOME kind of pesticide, and some of the organic pesticides are as dangerous as the synthetic ones, only they're not tested for).

I hate when certified organic farmers cut off the tops of carrots, beets, kohlrabi... It makes me wonder what they're hiding. I hate when they wash the produce first also. Not only does it wash away any sign of insect damage (which I want to see. Too much is a sign of carelessness, and too little is a sign they're using strong pesticides). Also washing shortens the shelf-life, and makes it difficult to tell how long ago the produce was picked (because the tops will show age by the degree of wilting. It's harder to tell when the tops are cut off).

I tend to like the Hmong vendors best, because they generally pick the veggies the morning of the market rather than the night before, and except for brushing and wiping the dirt off, they generally don't wash or trim the produce. Not only does the produce last longer, I can see from the state of the leaves whether or not the crop was heavily treated for pests. I also like that less is being wasted. For example the Hmong vendors sell everything they eat, which is everything they grow that is edible. Beet tops aren't thrown away, because they're good to eat. They even sell pea leaves/tendrils and squash vines. It's kind of funny to hear people say "you can't eat those," because they don't know any better. I love the pea tendrils. I think I like them even better than sugar snap peas.

I also like the vendors who grow for taste rather than symmetry. I want my carrots to taste good more than I want them to be long, and slim. Short, knobby carrots are hard to peel (so I don't) but they taste so much better than the long, slim varieties.

I wish we lived in a climate that could sustain farmers markets all year round. I eat a lot of veggies all year-round, but I eat a lot more in the summer, because they're just so much tastier from small farms, with farmers who are proud of what they sell.

Michelle1210
07-05-2011, 04:37 PM
I like to visit the Saturday market, there you can question the vendors how they prepare there meat products or how there fed etc. I guess I'm partiel organic...because I cant always afford it but make the best next choice.

RenayZ
07-05-2011, 05:10 PM
I've started buying organic again. The book I'm reading calls for changing over to an organic, plant-based and organic, hormone-free protein diet because of the hormones that enter into our foods through pesticides which affect our ability to lose weight.

UGH! Organic is expensive! My food bill was twice what I usually pay per week. But I justify it by telling myself that I'm feeding my family better food and I'm supporting local farmers. Plus, I'd be paying out the wazoo if I were on some other diet plan that required me to buy their supplements and pre-packaged foods.

IsabellaOlivia
07-06-2011, 02:44 AM
I never really shop organic food. Yesterday, was LITERALLY my first time ever trying to buy organic. I bought organic egg, organic milk, organic cheese, organic chocolate milk, organic kidney beans and organic chopped tomatoes.

It was more expensive for the organic produce than what I pay for regular food. I bought Tesco organic, which is a store brand here in England. Often, I have an 'all or nothing' mentality. With this change to my diet I'm just going to start off easy and not go crazy and immediately buy and eat only organic food. It's so confusing to attempt changes.

Esofia
07-07-2011, 11:11 AM
I'm fairly broke, but one thing I will always buy organic is carrots. The non-organic ones taste far too bitter to me now. I've had luck with organic fruit and veg box schemes in the past, where it tends to be cheaper and mostly local produce too, and for anyone in this part of Scotland I can warmly recommend Grow Wild.

Jelma
07-07-2011, 11:31 AM
I, too, buy organic carrots, they are so much better. I always get a comment from the cashier about it because I buy the 5lb pound bags, I have to share with my dogs :)

Mostly I buy organic, especially celery, apples, and any corn product. Alot of the times it is around the same price as the conventionally grown stuff. I am lucky that every Tuesday there is a market in the summer, downtown a couple blocks from where I work, that has locally grown produce. I also live close to another market that has local farmers.

As for meat I buy Amish chicken (I don't know how much better they are treated than regular chickens but I definitely notice a taste difference from brands like Tyson or Perdue) or organic, frozen wild Alaskan salmon, grass fed beef online or from local farmers, I don't eat pork. I'd like to try more grass fed cheese but it is soooo expensive. I do know that Kroger brand milk does not use RBGH (growth hormone) but I don't know if that translates to their cheese. Also Daisy brand sour cream and cottage cheese does not come from cows treated with RBGH. You guys in the EU, Canada, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand don't have to worry about it because it is banned.

Michinmn
07-07-2011, 12:15 PM
I've decided to add more organic food to my diet and was wondering what experiences you guys have had with organic food.

OMG!! I had to comment because you use Martin Luther King's quote, and so do I!!!!! I've never seen it anywhere else until now. Very cool. :cool: :D :carrot: :carrot:

I don't have it on my 3 FCs signature yet because I can not have a signature until after 20 days. :) But I have it on all my emails, including replies :D

I love organic foods and believe it is much healthier. From the websites I've read, pesticides contribute to all kinds of cancers, etc. Isn't it sad the FDA will approve things that are horribly unhealthy, even deadly for us, all for the love of money?

I've read that fruits & veggies that have a hard outside, such as, bananas, cantaloupe, watermelons, etc. we do not need to buy organic because the outer peel protects the fruit. However, grapes, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, broccoli, spinach, lettuce, tomatoes, potatoes, etc. we should buy organic because there is no outer shell protecting the part we eat, therefore, we are eating lots of poison. :p :dizzy:

Michinmn
07-07-2011, 12:18 PM
I've decided to add more organic food to my diet and was wondering what experiences you guys have had with organic food.

I, too, buy organic carrots, they are so much better. I always get a comment from the cashier about it because I buy the 5lb pound bags, I have to share with my dogs :)

Mostly I buy organic, especially celery, apples, and any corn product. Alot of the times it is around the same price as the conventionally grown stuff. I am lucky that every Tuesday there is a market in the summer, downtown a couple blocks from where I work, that has locally grown produce. I also live close to another market that has local farmers.

As for meat I buy Amish chicken (I don't know how much better they are treated than regular chickens but I definitely notice a taste difference from brands like Tyson or Perdue) or organic, frozen wild Alaskan salmon, grass fed beef online or from local farmers, I don't eat pork. I'd like to try more grass fed cheese but it is soooo expensive. I do know that Kroger brand milk does not use RBGH (growth hormone) but I don't know if that translates to their cheese. Also Daisy brand sour cream and cottage cheese does not come from cows treated with RBGH. You guys in the EU, Canada, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand don't have to worry about it because it is banned.



I wish they would band that crap here too. RBT or RBGH whatever its called. I can't believe they allow farmers to use it! Again, all becuase of money. I mean when is enough, enough??? They already have billions of dollars. :mad:

I always buy Kemps milk not treated with that crap. Have you seen videos of the cows that are injected with that stuff?? OMG, its scary. And gross. :p

Michinmn
07-07-2011, 12:21 PM
I've started buying organic again. The book I'm reading calls for changing over to an organic, plant-based and organic, hormone-free protein diet because of the hormones that enter into our foods through pesticides which affect our ability to lose weight.

UGH! Organic is expensive! My food bill was twice what I usually pay per week. But I justify it by telling myself that I'm feeding my family better food and I'm supporting local farmers. Plus, I'd be paying out the wazoo if I were on some other diet plan that required me to buy their supplements and pre-packaged foods.

Yea, pretty sad its so expensive to eat healthy. But the more we buy organic, the more our farmers can make, thus, reducing the cost...hopefully anyway! :D

Pesticides cause cancer too.

Michinmn
07-07-2011, 12:25 PM
Why don’t farmers grow organic red delicious apples??? I can never find this type of apple in organic form. It’s always the gala or Fuji apples that are organic and my favorite apple is Red Delicious.

geoblewis
07-11-2011, 11:56 AM
I support my local CSA farms that grow entirely organic, beyond even the certified levels, which allows for some chemical pesticide/fertilizer use. I also grow some of my own fruits and veggies. It's easier to find organic produce in California, but I still struggle sourcing some things.

Farmers will grow whatever they find profit in, even the organic ones. The delicious apples may not be available locally across the country year round like the other varieties, but you can buy them online and have them shipped to you when they're in season.

LandonsBaby
08-18-2011, 05:50 PM
we have plenty of organic red delicious around here.

PhatBeth
09-12-2011, 08:47 AM
I’ve had a couple of brands of whole-wheat pasta that were pretty good. Not organic, though, and I don’t remember what specifically they were.

The only organic food I’ve had intentionally lately was some granola, because the store was out of other kinds and I really wanted granola. It was fine, but I couldn’t have told you the difference if I hadn’t known.

lin43
09-12-2011, 08:56 AM
About 98% of the time, I buy only organic meats and dairy (I sometimes compromise on the diary by buying Fage yogurt but I never compromise on the meat). I usually eat organic fruits and veggies, but if I cannot find a particular organic fruit or vegetable I have a hankering for, I eat the conventional. I figure it's better to eat the conventional than to not eat the fruit or veggie at all. When I go out to eat, I always order either a seafood dish or a vegetarian option. I've been doing this for at least ten years.

iaradajnos
09-12-2011, 01:16 PM
We've been big organic and local shoppers for years. My husband is from Nepal so he also grows veggies in our community plot--but it's a very small plot. We have a farmers' market that we'll pick up a few items from. We buy from a huge, national organics grocery store but our local general grocery has really increased its organic selection over the past five years. We support organic, in-season, preferably local foods because it's more environmentally safe for earth/us, tastes awesome, and has more vitamins/color. You can really see/taste the difference in tomatoes, carrots, and other items. Tomatoes are supposed to be RED not pink.

asblandasweare
12-05-2011, 03:35 PM
I will USUALLY buy organic fruits and vegetables. However, I always soak my veggies in a light soap for 5 minutes, just to be sure. Also the freezer is my best friend. I'm lucky to live around alot of small farms. So in the summer i buy a ridiculous amount of berries and freeze them for the winter. I really try to buy local as much as possible.
As for traditional grocery stores, I'm never in them for long. I never go through the isles with packaged "food." I'm even skeptical of alot of the packaged organic/natural food.
Don't get me wrong, I will eat packaged foods once in a while. But it's really in moderation.
I used to be a fast food addict. Literally. I'd crave junior bacon cheeseburgers and french fries every single day. Since I've completely changed my lifestyle I've never felt so good in my life. I wake up early, I have energy all day. And most importantly I feel so good about myself.

Rana
12-05-2011, 05:19 PM
I've decided to add more organic food to my diet and was wondering what experiences you guys have had with organic food.

I buy 90% of my veggies and fruits in organic form. I definitely focus on the dirty dozen because I want to make sure I don't eat those.

I think that if you're going to eat less vegetables because you can't afford organic, then I think you should focus on eating MORE vegetables, even if they aren't organic. I saw my food bill go up, too, when I switched over, but I made myself buy less of other things -- it was mostly junk I shouldn't be eating anyway!

I can find organic foods in my supermarket, but we have also specialty grocery stores like Whole Foods to supplement. I also have farmer markets and I get a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) box with organic local food. I get eggs and cheese from them too.

I think you CAN tell the different in flavor in some of the fruits or vegetables (some people argue that you can't), and I feel better knowing that my body isn't eating as many pesticides as it would otherwise. With the CSA box I find that my grocery bill is lower, because you do get a lot in exchange.

What I like about the CSA box is that it forces me to eat vegetables I otherwise wouldn't try. And I think that's awesome, because I'm always trying to eat more of those (I tend to get into ruts).

I also buy organic and/or grass fed beef and chicken. I buy my dairy RGHB free (or European cheeses!).

It does mean I lowered my intake of cheese, but that's not a bad thing at all. I eat more goat cheese (which doesn't have it and the CSA box brings it too).

stan255
01-08-2012, 03:09 PM
Milk, fresh salads for breakfast
Lunch, some meat+ mashed potato+ carrots.
Dinner, a cup of green smoothies and I'm good to go!

Dealdoll
02-03-2012, 11:12 PM
I buy organic off the dirty dozen for sure, but it's so hard to go all organic because we just don't have the money. :(

zenor77
02-06-2012, 12:39 AM
We purchased a CSA share from a local organic farm. I go out to the farm once a week to pick up our produce. The farm also sells eggs, goat's milk and organic mayo. It's fun and my toddler loves to run around with the chickens and goats. Last week we received cauliflower, broccoli, kale, a ton of arugula, cilantro, cabbage and radishes.

In all honesty, it's not more expensive to buy produce this way. If I were to buy the same organic items in the store, it would probably be a similar price. It still ends up being less expensive though, because I don't go to the store as often. If I'm not at the store, unexpected splurges don't end up in my basket. So, it's really worked out for us.

MeganTheMushroom
02-12-2012, 02:35 PM
I'm always astounded when I eat inorganic blueberries, they taste so...tasteless.
There is definitely a huge taste difference, I think. Inorganic kale is so bitter, etc.

It's more important to buy local than organic though. So, if you can't get both, when something is in season, buy it locally! :)
Local tastes the BEST!

PrincessSophia
03-02-2012, 02:40 AM
I don't buy organic food if there is the same quality food without this sticker. "Organic" is just another very clever to get more money from us.

And I try to buy local. I prefer to wait for California grown blueberry than buy the same one from Mexico (or Chile).

Who really interesting in the subject, I can recommend this movie (it is free to amazon prime member):
http://www.amazon.com/The-Botany-of-Desire/dp/B004BUB2SY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1330670254&sr=8-5

Isabunny
04-19-2012, 10:28 AM
I have recently taken some Organic Facts classes through work. I work at Whole Foods. Here are some facts:

Any products whether grown in the US or abroad have to follow the same standards to be labled as organic.

There are three different labeling sayings. Here is what they mean:
1)100% Organic- Must contain only organically produced ingredients (excluding water and salt).
2)Organic- Must consist of at least 95% organically produced ingredients (excluding water and salt).
3)Made with organic ingredients-Processed products that contain at least 70% organic ingredients.

Personally I buy organic products always for those products my children or I eat daily, or those products on the dirty produce list. Some things I always buy organic are: apples, celery, lettuce, milk, tomatos, cucumbers, strawberries, all berries. Most watery veggies and fruits I buy organic because they soak up more pesticides. A great way to buy organic if price is the issue is to buy organic frozen. It is much more reasonable. The brocolli is great frozen. Fruits frozen can be used in smoothies/ice pops. Yummy!

Another interesting fact is that produce that is organic is labled with a 9 as the first number in the produce code (organic bananas 94237/ conventional 4237). Conventional produce starts with either 3 or 4.

Grocery stores have to completely seperate organice from non organic produce. It is stored seperately and cannot touch in anyway on the shelf. You will see dividers used to seperate products.

The organic food industry is heavily regulated and monitored to make sure products meet very strict standards.

pluckypear
04-19-2012, 11:44 AM
I buy organic when I can as much as I can. I am on disability leave from work and my income is much less then before. I go to the farmer's market and buy from natural farmers. They only use organic produce but are not yet certified.

i33BabyGirl33i
05-05-2012, 06:49 PM
In organic apples you can tell a HUGE difference. They are more crisp, juicy, and firm.

Laifierr
05-05-2012, 11:06 PM
I don't buy organic from grocery stores because it is waaaaay overpriced. Organic romaine lettuce $7.99 a pound?! I eat about a pound of lettuce a day.

Farmer's markets is the way to go, or grow your own if you can.

veggiegirl123
05-21-2012, 02:32 PM
I've decided to add more organic food to my diet and was wondering what experiences you guys have had with organic food.

I'm a big believer in organic foods. However, I have a small grocery budget so I have to pick and chose what I can buy organically. My 'musts' are apples and potatoes. I will go without before I buy these conventionally.

Emama
06-07-2012, 06:18 PM
I try to buy only organic for any dairy or meat product. I do buy organic veggies and fruit,but not all the time. I love the dirty dozen list that JenMusic shared.
When it comes to meat and dairy I don't want the antibiotics or other chemicals.

Firecracker777
09-12-2014, 01:29 PM
I try to eat organic as much as possible because I worry about the bad effects of the pesticides. I know it's not possible to have everything organic but I try!