Whole Foods Lifestyle - Is eating too much fruit harmful to your health? I'm a fruitaholic!




fruitlady
02-18-2010, 03:08 PM
I lost 65 lbs and have been maintaining for 8 mo. For the past year and a half I have really enjoyed having lots of fruit around. I eat 8 or 9 servings a day, 5 of the servings with my breakfast everyday( it's not all I eat). I eat three or four servings with a yogurt for lunch everyday and munch on grapes in between meals. Dinner is always veggies and a lean protein. I count calories and always count the fruit into my daily calories. Besides gaining weight if you go over your calorie limit from it, does anyone know if this can be harmful to your health? There is alot of natural sugar in fruits, can you eat too much natural sugar? Maybe develop diabetes? Any info would be appreciated, thanks chicks!


fitbyforty
02-18-2010, 05:16 PM
I think you could get lots of info on the subject just by googling it.I am not an expert but I do know a body needs lots of nutrients to be healthy.Are you fulfilling those requirements with a primarily fruit diet?

kaplods
02-18-2010, 06:11 PM
If you eat too much of anything, it can have less than ideal health consequences - mostly because if you're eating a huge amount of one food, it can often mean you're eating less of something else.

It really depends on what else you're eating and how much of it, and also which fruits you're eating. If you're eating 8 to 9 servings a day, but you're only eating 4 or 5 kinds of fruit, you definitely could be shortchanging yourself of some nutrients.

If you're eating fruits and veggies of many varieties (and many different colors), it may be less of a problem. You could be shortchanging yourself on proteins and fats (and maybe you're not).

If you can speak to a dietitian that would be ideal, but if not a book on basic nutrition should help you figure it out.

My sister is a registered dietitian and she recommended the book,

American Dietetic Association Complete Food and Nutrition Guide by Roberta Larson Duyff


tommy
02-18-2010, 08:16 PM
You have been maintaining for 8 months! The fruit is not sending you into a carb frenzy. Sounds like you figured out what works for your body. Of course it would be better to eat a rainbow of fruits and veggies, but you are doing better than the majority of the population by getting at least your fruits in. When I go to the Asian markets I see these tiny women buying cases of fruit. Granted they are splitting this with extended family I think, but still.....of all the things you could have a "thing" about, fruit seems likea benign addiction. Congratulations on maintaining!

Thighs Be Gone
02-18-2010, 08:36 PM
I eat fresh fruit and lots of it--many days in the ball park of 7-9 servings of it daily. I don't seem to have a problem with it. Processed carbs--a completely different story but nope, no problems with fresh fruit.

ennay
02-18-2010, 08:36 PM
If you ALREADY have diabetes or pre-diabetes it can be bad, but it isnt going to CAUSE it. I can't eat much fruit because it DOES send ME into a sugar spin, but it clearly doesnt for you or you would know.

As Kaplods says, the issue is more what are you NOT eating because of the fruit. 9 servings is probably ~ 600 calories a day of fruit & you are pretty tiny. Unless you are extremely active that is probably around 1/3 of your calories or more. I might consider making sure you are getting at least the minimum servings of protein, fat, whole grains and veggies and then feel free to fill in extras with fruit...there are definitely worse choices.

However you may want to increase the # of times you brush your teeth. Fruits not only have sugar, they typically are acidic and the combo can do a whammy on tooth enamel.

fruitlady
02-18-2010, 09:24 PM
thanks everyone for your input! I do eat a large variety of fruits and I just love it so much that i really don't want to try to cut down. Ennay, yes I do eat about 600 calories from fruit a day, it's about half of my total calories. I am small, so I don't need as much and I am very active. But I also have a whole grain cereal w/ f.f milk with my fruit for breakfast, and a yogurt w/ my fruit for lunch, and a lean protein (fish or chicken)and lots of veggies for dinner. Sometimes I snack on nuts too, so i think I have everything covered in nutrients. I would live on just fruit if I could!

JennyG
02-18-2010, 09:27 PM
Fruitlady! Congrats on your weightloss!! Well done!!

luckymommy
02-18-2010, 09:35 PM
Well, your name certainly does fit you! :D

fruitlady
02-18-2010, 09:38 PM
Luckymommy, yes it does, my husband started calling me the fruitlady last year when I used to come home with a big box of fruits from the fruit stand every Saturday. Take Care!

JerseyGyrl
02-18-2010, 10:55 PM
If you ALREADY have diabetes or pre-diabetes it can be bad, but it isnt going to CAUSE it.

Interesting article:
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/diabetes-from-fruit.html

kaplods
02-18-2010, 11:16 PM
The theory that excessive sugar/sweet intake causes diabetes is not a new one (it has been a commonly held belief by healers and physicians in many cultures, for at least 2,000 years or more).

For the past several decades, the experts have been telling us that sugar does NOT cause diabetes.

Now type II diabetes is becoming pandemic in industrialized nations, becoming common in populations in which it has been exceedingly rare, such as children (not only overweight, but normal weight and underweight children as well), and also appearing in healthy (even athletic) young adults.


The causes aren't known, but many of the medical experts are less willing to dismiss sugar intake as a factor that can contribut to Type II diabetes. Pollutants, lifestyle including activity level and diet (including sugar and types of sugar) are all being re-examined.

Maybe the ancient physicians and healers weren't so wrong.

Passionista
02-20-2010, 05:09 PM
I'm curious about what 5 servings of fruit looks like for you in one meal. For me, I am the same way with vegetables and can eat that volume of vegetables at a meal. :)

giselley
02-20-2010, 07:30 PM
Fruit is supposed to be the "tree's" bribe for birds and other animals to carry the seeds. Okay? It is a bribe. I think only certain times of the year, fruit at peak sugar content is available (after that it becomes alcohol?) So, no, I do not think it is safe to eat something that is so sweet that it exists to cater to addicted beings-- Poor plant is creating all this sweethess hoping you will poop out the seeds when you dont even eat the seeds. The plants have been misled, and you have been misled. The whole idea of farming and stable "cities" of people is forigen to fruit trees. I think that "some" fruit is good-- occasionally-- the sugar content of too much fruit is otherwise bad.

fruitlady
02-20-2010, 08:14 PM
Fruit and veggies are very good for you and I think 2 to 5 servings of each is recommended. I just tend to favor fruit more than veggies and eat more than 5 servings. I have been eating fruit like this for about a year, and I have never felt better in my life. Not to mention I now have thicker hair, clearer skin and quick growing nails. I have not been sick for 18mo. (since I switched to whole foods) I was just wondering if it was harmful if did this for life, cause I surely would!

kaplods
02-20-2010, 09:05 PM
I was just wondering if it was harmful if did this for life, cause I surely would!


I don't think there's an easy answer for this, because it depends on factors that are difficult or impossible to communicate in a forum like this (and many you wouldn't even know unless you had a comprehensive nutritional analysis done).

Ideally I'd suggest a consult with a registered dietitian. If that's not practical, at least you could use resources like the Daily Plate or other food journal websites (or program software available as online downloads or from your local software dealer such as Best Buy, Walmart....), which provide nutritional analysis. Such tools aren't always very precise, but give you a good ballpark estimate.


In essence this is the dilemma

Is eating too much fruit harmful to your health?

The answer is essentially YES, but it logically leads to the next question.

How much fruit is too much fruit?

Tricky question, and the one that can't be as easily answered, and depends on your health goals, your personal health issues, and is dependent upon the context of the rest of your diet.


For example, if fruits are your only or primary source of carbohydrates/sugar, the answer may be different than for a person who is also including many other high carbohydrate foods in their diet. The answer may be very different for a person who eats two pieces of bread at every meal, than for a person who isn't eating grains.

It's a lot like spending money.

It's a bit like asking "If I spend too much money on shoes, will I still be able to afford to go on vacation this summer?" Obviously a lot more questions have to be answered to give decent advice.

Just as you can't put everyone in country on the same budget, you can't put everyone on the same diet. It doesn't work, because everyone doesn't have the same income, expenses, needs, and desires. A lot depends on your goals (are you happy with feeling pretty good most of the time, or are you wanting to be in peak physical conditon. Do you want to live a reasonably long, healthy life or do you want to extend your life as long as possible).
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MomtoThree
02-21-2010, 02:04 PM
Here are my thoughts but that is it just my thoughts:

I was on a very high fruit diet in 07 (aka low fat raw diet). I lost over 80lbs. Everyday I tracked my nutrients and did not find a deficency in any areas except b-12 (which was the one supplement I used). My neurologist, ob/gyn and a friend who is a deitician followed my progress. For me it was not a long term diet but then my diets was 70% fruit, 5% veggies, and 25% fat coming from avocados and nuts.

I found that while I felt good on that diet it was not for me in the long run. So now I am own a more varied whole foods diet and finding what works for me. I feel that a lot of things in life especially diets boil down to will it work for you long term. Talk to a DR, dietician or nutritionsit and get feedback but ultimately it is your choice. IF you are worred about you blood sugars you can always have a an1c drawn.

fruitlady
02-21-2010, 05:56 PM
MomtoThree, Thanks, your old diet sounds like my diet. But I do eat fish 3 times a week and chicken only once in a while, no avocados though. I feel great also, and I love the foods i eat, so I can stick with this for life. I just wasn't sure if I was doing this right. lol Since I eat alot of fruit, I get alot of potassium and I not sure about how good that is either.

MomtoThree
02-25-2010, 04:45 AM
MomtoThree, Thanks, your old diet sounds like my diet. But I do eat fish 3 times a week and chicken only once in a while, no avocados though. I feel great also, and I love the foods i eat, so I can stick with this for life. I just wasn't sure if I was doing this right. lol Since I eat alot of fruit, I get alot of potassium and I not sure about how good that is either.

I am glad that my advice helped. You diet with the small amounts of meat sounds just like what several friends of mine are using for maintanance.

bonnnie
02-25-2010, 12:49 PM
It also depends on the types of fruit you are eating - for example, tons of tropical fruit which are high acidity?

If so, and if you have already lost the weight and are maintaining, I'd really only be worried about your teeth. It seems to work for you, so keep it. Unlike the advice offered to brush your teeth more - I might actually brush less. Better yet, don't take my advice, instead ask a dentist. Maybe he will recommend a rinse....

What fruit comes down to is - a lot of water and fiber. Yes there is sugar, but for the most part it is water and fiber. I'm sure your bowels are working splendidly.

You have posted your question on a forum that talks constantly about the harmful effects of carbs and sugar spikes.... in general, the majority tend to do the low carb- its the fashion around here and your diet is simply not low carb, so a lot of people will advise you to lower your carbs. At the current time, I don't have any negative or positive comments on carbs- I just want to draw attention to the fact that it is "the style" around here.

In the end, your diet seems to have worked perfectly for you. We would all be interested to see your labwork!

fruitlady
02-25-2010, 03:01 PM
Bonnnie, I never had lab work done because we don't have medical insurance. I guess if I feel as good as I do, then everything is fine. And yes my bowels do work splendidly. lol

tigger175
02-25-2010, 09:16 PM
I bet half of my calories each day are from fruit and veggies- and mostly fruit. I eat at least 6 or 7 different types of fruits each day. Whole wheat toast for breakfast with peanut butter, sliced banana and blackberries on top (instead of jelly). A salad for lunch with fresh carrots and broccolli and a plum. An apple, pinapple, raspberries, and nuts for a snack. And probably a stirfry or bean dish for dinner. I'm a vegetarian.

Fruit is full of antioxidants, fiber, and vitamins. I do try to eat my fruit with something else containing protein and fat (like peanut butter or hummus), which slows digestion and prevents spikes in blood sugar/insulin.

I think it really depends on the person and their body how they respond to so much fruit. For me it works well. And it reminds of stories where people who have cancer get it to go into remission by eating a lot of raw vegetables and fruit.