Well, it may depend. I've read that it can be healthy to lose .5 to 1% of your weight a week. So, the person who weighs 150 would be unhealthy if losing 3 pounds. The person who weighs 350 pounds might not be if getting adequate nutrition. If routinely losing more than 2 pounds a week I would suggest getting a medical opinion on what is healthy for you.

This is frustrating. This week I've been very low on points and have used only a few weekly points. I was also sick and had a couple of days that I didn't eat my 29 daily. I usually do that but I didn't feel well. At one point in the week I was down 2.5 pounds. Now I'm only down about 1 pound. Go figure.

I do think overall that if I don't lose when I use my weekly points or when I don't use them that it is mostly me not being 100% on my points actually eaten or not being 100% on my activity. And, of course, the normal body fluctuations in weight from day to day make a difference as well. I'm trying now to be super careful to record everything accurately and to round up and not down, etc. We'll see how that works.

I've been calculating everything going into my mouth as far as daily pts goes. Last night was the first time i used 3 weekly pts. I never use activity pts for the most part. I really have been honest and if i'm leary, i round up a pt or 2.

My motivation is so high right now, I'm really giving this my all!
I did allow a piece of chocolate that is now 1.5 points instead of the old 1 point that it used to be after lunch today. First chocolate I've had all week and I deserve it. : )

derrydaughter - There are no longer half point so I think that would round to 2 points. But I certainly think that spending 2 points on a piece of chocolate occasionally is fine.

distraught dieter - If you aren't losing there is a reason. I don't know what it is but there is always a reason. It can sometimes be hard to figure it out (I know from my own experience). If you don't love after, say, 2 weeks I would take my completed daily planner with everything recorded and have the leader look at it. Record everything, even things that are zero point. Sometimes the leader can see something that is problematical.

Do you eat out much? That is so much harder to figure out sometimes. I went to a restaurant awhile back, looked up nutritional information, ordered carefully and was so pleased by it. I only realized the next time I went to that restaurant that their nutritional information was for half of each entree. Sigh.

I'm not saying that is your issue but just saying how easy it can be to get one little thing wrong and not realize it.

Thanks Koshka, i used to eat out alot, hence the new relationship added weight over the last year. Now since Sunday i'm too afraid to go out to eat lol! I told myself that i would only eat out if i knew EXACTLY what i was eating. I've only gone so far as a garden salad with feta at Stop & Shop lol.

For instance i'm going out to the movies tonight so i'm going to make a double 25 calorie hot chocolate to smuggle into the theater to hold me over until dinner later on. I had a salad for lunch but will probably have a garden salad with grilled chicken for dinner and oil and vinegar, and a glass of wine stretched out with soda water and ice! I'm definitely in need of a cocktail after this week and have ate today so i can do so.

Also, not to be a downer especially on a friday, my dad who is very young and is very ill, we are losing him so the stress has also been a large factor

Koshka, I have not read anywhere or heard a thing about half points not being allowed. Where did you hear that?
I do admit to having so much to learn that I might have missed something.
We eat our a great deal as well.
Distraught dieters, so sorry about your dad. I lost my dad in 2005 and mom in 2006 and it is heartbreaking. I am moderator of a bereavement support group that is on yahoo called The Bereavement Journey if you need a place to chat and deal. We've all been there, unfortunately.
I have to say that in 2005/2006 during the bereavement process and right before my dad died, I allowed my weight to creep back up. I was working hard at WW and almost, again, at goal weight. I lost control and my eating was driven by my emotions. Food was a temporary comfort to me and in the end I lost my caring for quite some time.
I hope you find better ways to handle things than I did.
My answer to a 1 hr and 15 minute ride to the nursing home my dad was in was the drive through at Dunkin Donuts, two chocolate donuts and coffee to make the trip. It was not the best choice for sure.

Derrydaughter - The thing about half points is in the WW materials

If you have access to online materials it is at:

http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/a...&art_id=106231

It is point no. 11

11. There are no half PointsPlus values
All PointsPlus values are now whole numbers.

Well, then, I will add a few points to my "flex" points, which are now called "points plus".
I liked using half points, by the way, it gave more flexibility. For my own recoreds, I might do that anyway. But, for the time being, while I am adjusting to this new program, I shall be quite honest with myself and fix this on my tracker. I want it to work.
On my home scale this morning, with no clothes on, I had a 2 pound loss since Tuesday's meeting. I was thrilled. But, weigh in on Tuesday with clothes will be different, I am sure.

I have been trying to be very scrupulous on points also. As you can see by my thread on my first week I found that a PointsPlus worked out for me to average about 39 calories per point although it varied a bit depending on what I ate that that. Higher carb days were less calories per point.

Since each point is worth less calories now I think that is why they got rid of half points.

There is a lot to absorb.

Getting Started Guide page 42 - note at the very very bottom of the page:

PointsPlus values are always rounded to the nearest whole number. It actually shows an example of a round down. So if it's 4.5 it's 5, and if it's 4.4, it's 4.

That makes sense, because the UK boards had stated it worked out to an average of 40calories, but that it varied. But if you're in a bind, 40 calories per pluspoint will suffice for a quick guess-timate average, but for sure not be completely accurate and shouldn't be used as the norm. Just for absolute binds. And then when you get home later, you can figure it out what it really was.

I posted an analysis of my first week, comparing calories eaten, Points Plus and old Points. I found that new Points Plus (including zero pt food) averaged out to 39 calories per point with it varying somewhat depending on what was eaten.

Yup. That's what I meant when I said it made sense. Sorry for the confusion. I should have edited your quote to just the point I was talking about.

I'm confused.. at our meeting today they told us that calories were taken out of the equation for getting PointsPlus values. Did I miss something?

Super excited about the new program. FREE fruits and veggies? Sign me up! Our leader did say though, you either get on board with the whole program or it doesn't work. Meaning use your new PointsPlus total allowance for the day and use the calculator or book to get the NEW values in PointsPlus. She said she tried doing the old Momentum program with free fruits and veggies and gained 1.5 pounds. This is because they took into accounts in giving our daily PointsPlus allowances that we would be eating 5 or so servings of fruits and veggies recommended by the ADA. She then got on board and lost 8 POUNDS in three weeks. She decided to readjust her maintenance weight.

With all the research WW puts into this and the clinical scientific trials, something about it must be right, it must work! Lots of success stories from the ladies who had been to meetings earlier in the week. Oh and the other cool thing she said was if you don't eat your total allowance daily, don't worry about and don't go eat more to get to it like they recommended on the old program as long as you're satisfied.

Hope everyone is doing great and I can't wait to see other peoples results from the new program!