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Old 04-23-2002, 10:54 AM   #1  
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I am hoping I get some help with this. I know the importance of eating protein, especially with breakfast, so I almost always have protein with breakfast. Lunch is usually a very large salad with dressing (3 pts worth) and maybe a Lean Cuisine or WW entree. However I am having a problem with feeling extremely hungry.
There are times I actually feel weak because I am so hungry. Then I go into overeat mode, trying to restore my energy.
Last Saturday, for breakfast I had
1/2 cup cottage cheese (2 pts)
1.5 cups strawberries (1 pt)
1 TB sunflower seeds (1 pt)
3/4 cup Kashi (1 pt)
8 0z skim milk (2 pts)
Total=7 points
Lunch:
2 pcs FF bologna (1 pt)
1 slice 2% cheese(1 pt)
2 slices high fiber bread (1 pt)
1 orange (1 pt)
carrots (0 pts)
grape tomatoes(0 pts)
1 bag Baked Lays (2 pts)
Total=6 points

By 5 PM, I was so hungry and weak feeling, I started to eat everything in sight!
I drink lots of water.
Anyone else have this problem?
Help.
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Old 04-23-2002, 12:46 PM   #2  
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Hi Donna,
I know what you mean! Been there.

Looks like you're eating very sensibly for breakfast and lunch. But do you eat any snacks? Maybe you could spread those points out by having planned snacks mid-morning and mid-afternoon. Maybe save an item or two from each meal to have as a snack. (I usually have a 3-4 pt breakfast and 2-pt mid-morning snack. If I skip the snack, I'm ravenous at lunch.)

Also, try soup as a first course. It's supposed to help you feel full. Broth-based soups are best. I like Campbell's Healthy Request soups myself.

I'm reading a book right now that you might want to look at. It's called Volumetrics, and it goes right along with everything WW says to do. Everything is backed by research (with some fascinating experiments!) and there's lots of practical advice for keeping from feeling hungry.

Hope that helps! Good luck to you!
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I do! I have to spread my food around over the day- eating a little something every couple of hours, or else I get so hungry I overeat. Maybe you can try spreading out your points throughout the day?
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I don't know about the rest, or what points range you are on, but if I ate that many points throughout the day, I would feel like I was starving at night. Also, I like to have a really nice supper when I can sit down and relax, and also have a problem with snacking in the evenings.

Soooo, to accommodate my particular eating schedule, I try to be very stingy with my points during the day. My points range right now is 18 - 23 points. A typical day for me looks like:

Breakfast:
coffee or tea (1 pt. for the skim milk that I add, probably excessive in the points because I don't actually add 1 pont worth )
2 slices of high fibre, low fat bread 1 pt.
1 T no sugar added jam (split between the 2 slices) .5 pt.

Snack:
coffee 1 pt.
white cheddar rice cake 1 pt.

Lunch:
vegetable soup (WW garden vegetable) 0 pt.
salad 0 pt.
ff italian dressing 0 pt. (there are other dressings that are similard to the ff italian with the same nutritional content and are also 0 pt. I vary these for variety)
sometimes eat a ff pudding (Jello's instant ff puddings are lower points than the ready made ff puddings. Easy to make, also) 2 pt.
pice of fruit 1 pt.


Snack:
raw veggie sticks of some kind (or mixed)
water

Supper:
Hmmm...I've only used 5.5 - 7.5 points during the day, depending on whether I eat the pudding. That leaves me between 10.5 and 12.5 points (if I eat at the bottom of the points range) for supper and snacking at night.

I often find that, when I do the final tally of my points, I am still below the minimum points. Sooooo I just HAVE to have those 2 or three cookies before I go to sleep.

Just make sure that you are snacking on 0 pt. foods during the day if you are feeling really hungry.

Here are a couple of other hints that I discovered to take away the hunger pangs. They are a bit lengthy because I will tell you what my symptoms were first, how I fixed the problem and some additional info that I have read since.

1. Drink water. Be sure, be sure, be sure to drink water. I started out with a problem here because I am not that crazy about drinking plain water. One Sunday, I found that I was feeling starved and wanted something like meat or cheeses to eat. The cravings were almost out of control. However, I WI on Monday, so the thought of a binge affecting my WI motivated me to not indulge. Hubby and I went for a drive and I also needed to pick up some bottled water for work. We did that, but the cravings still persisted when I got home. I decided at that point to keep myself busy (actually posting on this site) and to drink a bottle of water (4 glasses) at the same time. When the water was finished, I shut down the computer and discovered that the craving and the feeling of hunger was gone. A couple weeks later, I was reading an article on dehydration. The article talked about how being dehydrated causes cravings. Most people try to satisfy the craving by eating whatever they are craving, but because they remain dehydrated, the cravings persist, hence they begin binge eating. If you rehydrate when you feel the cravings, the feeling of hunger often leaves (unless you are truly hungry). That made a lot of sense to me, so I make it a point to drink at least 4 glasses of water before I give in to a craving...when I do that, I have not gone into the binge eating mode.

Also, one thing that I have discovered is flavored water (artificially sweetened). As I mentioned before, I don't like drinking water, but the flavored waters (fruit flavors) do 2 things for me. They allow me to satisfy my quota for drinking water everyday without making me feel like I have to, and they satisfy my sweet tooth (real problem here). I buy them in litre sizes (Canadian) and 1 bottle equals 4 glasses. I imagine your quart would be about the same size.

2. The second hint that I have for you is to make this as simple as possible. I got the recipe for the WW Garden Vegetable soup and went about buying all the ingredients, chopping them all up and making the soup. At the same time, I was mentally telling myself that making this would be a big problem for me because I wouldn't want to spend the time doing it. Sooooo, my version of garden vegetable soup is: 2 cans of tomato paste, 1 or two cans of diced tomatoes (you can also get them with herbs and spices added), 2 cans of mushrooms and any 0 point vegetables that I can find in the freezer. Add water if needed. Simmer for about 1 1/2 hours and package for lunch. I make a pot ful every Sunday afternoon or evening and have enough for lunches for the entire week and often snacks at night if I am feeling really hungry. I know that sounds boring to have vegetable soup every day for lunch, but I have found that if I augment it with a salad and vary different kinds of fruit, it is really enjoyable.

I know this has turned out to be very long, but wanted to share some of the things that it took me a couple of months to discover. Try some variations with your eating plan and develop some strategies that allow you to 'treat' yourself at times that you really enjoy eating the most. As mentioned before, mine bad time is evenings, so, by restricting my points during the day, I convince myself that the special treats are required in the evenings just to make sure that I am hitting the minimum number of points.

Good luck on your journey. You seem like you are on the right track.

Cheers,
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Thank you to all who have shared your ideas.
I know it seems as if I eat a lot of points early in the day, but most of my days start at 5AM, and I absolutely HATE the feeling of being hungry!
In regards to the veggie soup, thank you Peggy for your recipe. I too have made the vegetable soup (once). It took a lot of time and I wasn't that crazy about it. However, your recipe seems more like my kind of soup, and I will give it a try.
Thank you to everyone-
Keep those ideas coming!!!
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Peggy-
Just a question about your veggie soup-
Do you drain the tomatoes? I would think you would drain the mushrooms because of the sodium.
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when i worked in an office, instant oatmeal was a good snack. for a treat, i'd add a bit of strawberry jam or nestle quick or carnation instant breakfast to it. plus, it fills you up pretty well.
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Thanks again for your suggestions.
By the way, is anyone having a hard time accessing this website? When I go to 3fatchicks.com, the only thing I get is the food page, but no link to the message board is available to me. Also, the screen is EXTRA wide, and pretty hard to negotiate. The only way I have been able to post is by accessing the site through the responses to my posts.
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Answer to veggie soup - No, I don't drain either the tomatoes or mushrooms - I don't have a sodium problem or high blood pressure. However, that would be one thing that you would do if you are concerned about the sodium content.

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I make my soup the easy way. I take an onion and chop it up , I use prechopped garlic in a jar, I sautee them in Pam, Then I add some chicken boulion(powdered), add 1 can of ff chicken broth and a couple bags of frozen california style veggies, add some water( a can or 2 depending), a can of the 12 oz individual V8's and a can of black beans( this gives a little protein and only makes the whole pot of soup 3 pts.) , cook until tender. Then if you want you can take out some of the veggies and set aside and puree the rest in the broth to make it more thick and then add the veggies back. It's pretty good and a bit more satisfieing with the beans. Hope this helps....Sis
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