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Old 09-21-2005, 01:27 PM   #16  
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Jiffypop,
Is it possible to have sleep apnea and not know it? I guess what I'm saying is could I have had it all along and only noticed the problem recently. Last night it didn't happen (used one pillow instead of two) and dh said he hasn't noticed anything when I'm asleep (only snoring ). I also have congestion related asthma and woke up with a chest cold this morning.
I'm only asking because my doc blames it all on weight. If I lose weight my acid reflux will go away. If I lose weight my hip pop will go away. If I lose weight my knees that hurt when I was thin won't hurt, getting the picture?
It's all just confusing. I want to eat healthy, I want to be thin again. I just feel so ripped right now over this. Angry at myself for getting to this point. When I spent a good two years without gaining I just kind of ignored the weight. Then bam.
Well, I'm rambling again so I'll go. Thanks
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Old 09-21-2005, 01:36 PM   #17  
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Man, I went through some of this just before I got serious about trying to lose. Very scary stuff! To think that I allowed myself to get so heavy that I couldn't even hold my own airway open properly enough to breath at night, OMG! What have I done to myself?! So please get it checked out, it can be sooooo dangerous! And I'm happy to say that I absolutely never have this problem anymore, so even though you may not want to hear it, the doc is right, losing weight will most do wonders for this problem. Good luck hon, and be safe. You can do this!

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Old 09-21-2005, 01:39 PM   #18  
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Checked out the differences between SB and atkins. I guess I'm somewhere between the two. I'm not eating really high fat food. I always choose lean meat, whether it's hamburg or whatnot, in fact I annoy most family members because I'm so picky.

If it helps here is how my plan looks today.

BREAKFAST: 1 fried egg, a small slice of ham and 2 cups of coffee with half and half and splenda.

SNACK:Sugar free Raspberry jello

LUNCH:Small ground sirloin patty with spicy brown mustard and a salad with lettuce, cukes, sprouts and vinegar/olive oil dressing.

SNACK: slice of cheddar cheese

DINNER: Baked haddock (trying to like fish) and cukes. And probably another jello later on.

My only concern is the cals are really low so I'll work with it as I go. I'm leaning towards following a mid way diet between the two and then after the 2-4 weeks transition into SB phase 2.

I don't know, I think I'm getting more confused.
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Old 09-21-2005, 01:42 PM   #19  
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Jiffypop is the voice of reason and experience.

Ask for a referral to a PULMONARY SPECIALIST and discuss your health issues directly with them, they are best qualified to give you accurate information about oxygen, meds. interaction, weight gain, weight loss, asthma, etc. Many times sleep apnea can only be dx'd. by a special test , "sleep study" (if you live in NJ/NY area PM me and I'll give you names of docs. I know personally who are excellent)

good luck and congrats on making the decision to change your lifestyle and improve your health.
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Old 09-21-2005, 02:56 PM   #20  
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How long have you been seeing this doctor? I think it may be time to find a new one. I hate it when I hear about doctors blaming every health problem in the book on being overweight! Yes, being overweight CAN cause a lot of problems, but like you said about your knees, they hurt when you were thin, too, so while being overweight certainly doesn't help the issue, losing weight will definitely not cure it!

And yes, you can have sleep apnea for a long time without knowing it. A lot of people don't know they have it until something more drastic occurs (like you being startled awake by the inability to breath). Therefore, while these last 20 pounds may have made it worse, it could have been a problem all along, so get thee to a doctor who will actually listen to you!
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:46 PM   #21  
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listen to marbleflys [and not just because she agrees with me!!!!!].

asthma can be related to apnea [raising hand, here!].

your current doctor is denying you appropriate care by blaming everything on your weight. while i'm not denying that it's a factor, it's also true that he would NEVER deny a thin person appropriate referrals and care.. things can be done to help you. find someone who will pay attention and take care of you.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:04 PM   #22  
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and one more point!!! while everyone wants the weight to come off quickly, the REAL DEAL is taking it off and KEEPING it off. and that often requires major head changes and life changes. so, consider your goals carefully, along with some ideas of why you gained [and i don't mean the 'eating too much' reasons - it's deeper than that!] and set some realistic short-term goals. these always add up to success!!
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:06 PM   #23  
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I'm a nurse with several nurses and doctors in the family. I will tell you that you are absolutely always your own best advocate. There is an impossibly large volume of medical resources for any one provider to be abreast of all new developments at any one time. Add to that the fact that just like all other professions there are good ones and bad ones. That is one of the big issues in health care today I think, is that doctors are often idolized. They CAN be wrong, they may not know everything they need to to adequately treat you. If you don't feel right, find yourself someone who will listen. You deserve it!
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Old 09-22-2005, 05:47 AM   #24  
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Hi, scrunchkin! I know that I'm just adding to the choir here, but just talking to your doctor about sleep apnea isn't enough. It can be aggravated by obesity (and a large chest), but if you have it, you have it for life. I always thought that the only real danger you might face is falling asleep while driving or something, then my friend's husband died from sleep apnea. He simply didn't wake up after he stopped breathing one night. I don't mean to scare you, but the truth is, if you have it, you need to get it treated. Losing weight will help, but it won't cure you. To see if you have it, you'll need to participate in a sleep study. You can do this at a sleep center, where you'll have much more info on your sleep patterns, but you may be less likely to sleep there in the same way you do at home as it's a strange environment. You can also use a home test kit provided by your doctor. It doesn't provide as much information, but it allows you to sleep in your own bed.

If you have sleep apnea, there are a variety of options available for treatment. The most common treatment is using a CPAP machine. It provides a steady stream of air that keeps the tissues in your throat from collapsing and choking you. Some people find that they benefit from a CPAP that is meant to help them breathe out as the stream of air in is too much for them to fight against during their exhale. There are lots of different models. I have a friend who fought like crazy not to have to use one, as CPAPs are bulky and hard to travel with (you need a separate suitcase just for the machine), but once he tried it, he felt so good that he couldn't imagine ever going without it again.

I had sleep apnea and my mom still does. She uses a CPAP. We kid her about looking like Hannibal Lector when she wears it , but it works so well. She's never felt so rested in her life! Unfortunately, it requires its own suitcase, makes spontaneous romance impossible and is uncomfortable to wear. My mom had skin cancer under the mask that was agravated by the mask. She thought it was a pimple for the longest time and it took a while to get it diagnosed because of that. The machine isn't for everyone, but it is effective for most people, fairly inexpensive (with insurance) and easy to use.

I had a moderate case but my enlarged tonsils and soft palate were obviously to blame. I had a UP3 and tonsilectomy and was advised to lose 15 pounds. This took care of the problem. I don't have a uvula now, nor a soft palate, and that can cause some minor problems (food ends up in my nose sometimes! ) and makes it impossible for me to make some sounds in French, German, and Yiddish, but that's okay. It was worth it to get a decent night's sleep!

In regards to South Beach, that's the plan I've used to lose all my weight. It's a very easy plan to live on for life if you enjoy it. You can eat virtually anything if you are willing to do some of your own cooking. For instance, you can easily make your 'mean lasagne' out of Whole Wheat pasta noodles. Even if you don't like WW pasta, in a lasagne, I doubt you'd taste the difference. In Phase 1, you could use eggplant or strips of zucchini in place of the noodles. Yum! Check out the recipes in our Fat Chicks on the Beach forum for more ideas for incorporating your favorite foods into the plan.

I wouldn't recommend staying on Phase 1 for longer than 2 weeks. For one thing, once the two weeks are up, it often causes weight gain. You also don't get a full compliment of nutrients. You can always go back to P1 if you need to, but don't stick with it longer than 2 weeks or you chance harming your health and your diet, okay?

I hope you are able to find a plan you can live with for life. Each person's plan is different--find the one that works for you and then stick with it. You'll be doing it for the rest of your life if you want to remain healthy, so you want it to be something you really enjoy.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:12 PM   #25  
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If you are interested in reading another book for answers to your complex problems, try reading Mastering Leptin by Byron Richards. I have struggled to lose weight for years...I tried Atkins and could not lose, I had only moderate success on Sugarbusters (similar to South Beach phase II.) and finally, after reading this book and following his basic rules, I have lost 15 pounds with out the use of diet drugs. Leptin is a hormone that was recently discovered, and when the metabolism gets out of whack, and Leptin is not operating properly, it can cause all kinds of problems. I too would recommend Sugarbusters, or South Beach over Atkins. Eating three square meals a day, with no snacks and not eating after dinner have helped me tremendously. I highly recommend the book to anyone who wonders why they struggle with their weight.
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