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Old 04-17-2012, 10:29 PM   #31  
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You probably are not going to believe me... but if you eat more, you'd probably lose more. At your current weight and at your height, your body needs more than someone who is 5'3 and weighs 110 pounds. In most cases, doctors say 1200 is the LOWEST women should go, and usually only really small and thin people should even eat that.

There are tons of threads on here where people have been told to eat more to lose more. Once they do, they come back and tell us that it worked and that they actually lost more weight by eating 1500 calories instead of 1200 calories. This is because if your body thinks its not getting enough food on a consistent bases, its not going to feel like its safe to lose (plus a whole lot of other biological stuff that just confuses the frack out of me).

In my case, if I eat below 1300, I stall. I won't lose a single freaking pound. However when I up my calories to be between 1400-1550, I lose about a pound a week which I can not complain about at all given being within my healthy range.
I did try increasing my calories to 1,500 and it did get me unstuck from a plateau but after that I just stayed the same weight. I had to lower my calories to start losing again. I tried the 1,500 for a month and saw no results and then just felt like I wasted a month. I mean I gained a pound in 4 days eating 1,700 one weekend. And it was real weight because I have yet to be able to get it back off. i really think my metabolism is just crap or something
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Honestly, we could talk and lecture at you until we are blue in the face and you are sick to death of us and likely not change your mindset. PLEASE talk to your doctor about your weight concerns, THEN talk to your therapist about how your weight makes you feel.

Changing your weight WILL NOT change your feelings, I wish I could say that as soon as you reach your goal weight everything will be solved. Unfortunately the people on tv and in the magazines will always look perfect, this is the magic of PHOTO-EDITING. You would look perfect too with stylists, and makeup people, and proper camera angling. Also, there will always be people tinier then you, people are built differently from each other.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get help accepting yourself for who you are and finding belief that you ARE worthy not matter what you look like. Unless you do it sounds like you are seriously at risk for a full fledged eating disorder. And none of us want to see you go through that.

Maybe ask your therapist for a referral to a therapist that specializes more in eating disorders the general therapy. They will be alot more able to help you through your food and weight related issues.

most of all ***HUGS***
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:36 PM   #33  
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And yet I am a lightly active 20-something and can eat over 2000 calories a day and maintain or lose a quarter pound a week.

Believe it or not, people often underestimate how much they eat, even when calorie/food logging, and also forget to factor in the normal 'low' days with the higher weekends, binges, etc etc. Very few metabolically healthy (or normative, at the very least) individuals above 200 pounds are going to gain weight on 1700 calories per day, averaged out. It doesn't jive with the science. Now, if you have done tons of crash diets, have a condition like PCOS or Cushing's, Hashimotos, etc, or severe nutritional deficiencies then your body might need less or nutritionally different fuel that what you're giving it, but 1700 calories a day at your weight, weighed and measured and rigorously adhered to, is HIGHLY unlikely to cause a gain. To the contrary, it should cause 2-4 pounds a month to come off, if adhered to long term.

And my trollometer is going off with ever increasing frequency over the original poster, so I'm bowing out.
I've experimented a lot with calories. When I eat 1,700 i instantly weigh more the next day..which I know is expected, but then it never comes back off unless I eat less. I really really wish I could eat 1,700 and still lose a few pounds a month because that tends to be all I'm losing anyway but it just doesn't seem to happen for me. And i really do measure extremely carefully. If I have so much as a single strawberry I count it. If anything I'm guilty of over estimating because I know how common it is for ppl to under estimate.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:17 AM   #34  
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And yet I am a lightly active 20-something and can eat over 2000 calories a day and maintain or lose a quarter pound a week.

Believe it or not, people often underestimate how much they eat, even when calorie/food logging, and also forget to factor in the normal 'low' days with the higher weekends, binges, etc etc. Very few metabolically healthy (or normative, at the very least) individuals above 200 pounds are going to gain weight on 1700 calories per day, averaged out. It doesn't jive with the science. Now, if you have done tons of crash diets, have a condition like PCOS or Cushing's, Hashimotos, etc, or severe nutritional deficiencies then your body might need less or nutritionally different fuel that what you're giving it, but 1700 calories a day at your weight, weighed and measured and rigorously adhered to, is HIGHLY unlikely to cause a gain. To the contrary, it should cause 2-4 pounds a month to come off, if adhered to long term.

And my trollometer is going off with ever increasing frequency over the original poster, so I'm bowing out.
ditto this, all of this. have i mentioned i seriously like you?
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Hi ..

Along with all those foods if you started a regular protein diet on daily basis it will help you a lot. now a days in market you will find a lot protein diet but among those i would recommend pronokal protein diet is the best which having great recipes with good taste so i love to eat I must say pronokal diet is the best diet for me to improve.
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I've experimented a lot with calories. When I eat 1,700 i instantly weigh more the next day..which I know is expected, but then it never comes back off unless I eat less. I really really wish I could eat 1,700 and still lose a few pounds a month because that tends to be all I'm losing anyway but it just doesn't seem to happen for me. And i really do measure extremely carefully. If I have so much as a single strawberry I count it. If anything I'm guilty of over estimating because I know how common it is for ppl to under estimate.
agree. I also need to eat between 1,200 and 1,400 to lose weight and it is less than a pound a week. I am OK with this but still, sometimes want to eat more.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:34 AM   #37  
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agree. I also need to eat between 1,200 and 1,400 to lose weight and it is less than a pound a week. I am OK with this but still, sometimes want to eat more.
Your weight and height are very different than hers so eating that amount isn't as drastic of a deficit for you though.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:26 AM   #38  
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I think we really need to take a step back and forget about the numbers for weight loss for a second...there's a much bigger issue here than the numbers.

Look, when I was younger I hit the 4th grade and my body exploded. I became a human blimp...and when you go to a tiny catholic school in the middle of a teeny tiny city where everyone knows each other, this is not good.. not good at all. I got bullied, made fun of, not just by the kids at school (all 12 of which I had grown up with) but by my family too... None of my relatives knew how to comfort anyone without fixing them a big meal with your favorite cake as a top-off to the night. As a result my self esteem plummeted and the weight continued to pile on. Mom was obsessed with weight loss products, and felt that I would be the PERFECT test subject. But, because portion control was something that just didn't happen in our house, I CONTINUED to gain weight. 6th grade hit, and puberty wasn't kind to me either...

Long story short, I can't remember a time where I was at my goal weight (120-130)... I don't ever remember seeing those numbers. And even if I had, I'm sure my mother would have told me that they were MUCH too high and that I needed to lose a 'couple of pounds' just to be 'normal'. You know what? Screw normal. Screw convention, and screw society. Normal is a setting on an appliance, and you don't look or sound like an appliance to me.

(Link could be seen as offensive... google search 'plus size model with regular model and you'll find the article that I'm talking about)

Those models that you're talking about? They have a BMI that classifies them as being anorexic (at least in most cases). The average woman doesn't look like that.... they aren't meant to!

My overall point is that you need to learn to love yourself. Both now, and when you're at the weight that you think is right for you! I still struggle with self esteem issues, but I know that harming my body now will be DEVASTATING in the long run. Sure, I could starve myself and hit goal faster, but at what cost? I want to lose the weight but I also want to be around for a long long time to enjoy living at that weight! If you're as young as other posters are saying that you are, then you really need to take a step back and just enjoy being a kid! If people 'hate you' for what you are now, then you don't need them... and they don't know what they're missing out on! Get rid of them and be better for it!

Please, please take some of our advice. Don't worry about the numbers. Eat good, wholesome things when you're hungry and stop when you're full. Drink lots of water, and don't forget to treat yourself every now and again with your favorite dessert. Run around and enjoy life.... as they say, 'haters gonna hate' and there's really nothing you can do to stop them. Take it from a 23 year old that's been there, done that, and moved on already. You'll be much better for it.

I'm wishing you all the best.
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I don't have time to exercise or have the desire to do it but in 2 months of only watching what I eat

Not even counting calories

I have lost 15lbs with NO "workouts", yeah I walk a lot at my work but most of us walk that much around the house or on a trip to the mall so please don't stress if I could lose that much with no excersise then you sure can too!
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We all have to knock off the advice that would be good for an adult in a logical frame of mind. This poor child needs more than we are qualified to give. So here it is - and I'm pretty sure we are all of the same mind on this.

Please talk to your parents, doctor, and school advisor about this. All the formulas we use to tell you how much you have to eat to lose weight are based on mature adults, not young teens. You need good advice from an expert in child health care and in child psychology. You said you were not taking certain meds because of possible weight gain. Do you lie to your parents about that? If you tell your doctor you aren't taking it what does he/she have to say?

You need help in seeing things realistically and appropriately for your age. We can talk all day and not convince you that your size is normal. You need help that we can't give you because you don't want to hear it. If you can't learn that your worth is NOT based on how you look, you will never be happy or at peace.

I beg you to confide in an adult you trust and get the help you need. You are too valuable not to.

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We all have to knock off the advice that would be good for an adult in a logical frame of mind. This poor child needs more than we are qualified to give. So here it is - and I'm pretty sure we are all of the same mind on this.

Please talk to your parents, doctor, and school advisor about this. All the formulas we use to tell you how much you have to eat to lose weight are based on mature adults, not young teens. You need good advice from an expert in child health care and in child psychology. You said you were not taking certain meds because of possible weight gain. Do you lie to your parents about that? If you tell your doctor you aren't taking it what does he/she have to say?

You need help in seeing things realistically and appropriately for your age. We can talk all day and not convince you that your size is normal. You need help that we can't give you because you don't want to hear it. If you can't learn that your worth is NOT based on how you look, you will never be happy or at peace.

I beg you to confide in an adult you trust and get the help you need. You are too valuable not to.

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I agree with you completely.

Although WELL-MEANING, some advice given to this OP (not just in this thread but in others) is inappropriate for an underage youth who appears to be suffering from an eating disorder, depression, etc. I know most of us here especially, are mothers, and we want to believe that we can help/encourage/fix but truthfully, this OP needs real life professional help, from people who know her situation personally and are EXPERTS in dealing with this.

I find it irresponsible to offer advice about calories, exercise, etc. to anyone in this situation, much less a vulnerable youth.

Peace to you all, I know you all mean well. But well-meaning comments can be misconstrued and feed eating disorders.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:56 AM   #42  
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We all have to knock off the advice that would be good for an adult in a logical frame of mind. This poor child needs more than we are qualified to give. So here it is - and I'm pretty sure we are all of the same mind on this.

Please talk to your parents, doctor, and school advisor about this. All the formulas we use to tell you how much you have to eat to lose weight are based on mature adults, not young teens. You need good advice from an expert in child health care and in child psychology. You said you were not taking certain meds because of possible weight gain. Do you lie to your parents about that? If you tell your doctor you aren't taking it what does he/she have to say?

You need help in seeing things realistically and appropriately for your age. We can talk all day and not convince you that your size is normal. You need help that we can't give you because you don't want to hear it. If you can't learn that your worth is NOT based on how you look, you will never be happy or at peace.

I beg you to confide in an adult you trust and get the help you need. You are too valuable not to.

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Yes yes yes!

I think same gave advice not realizing her age.
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Lin, Sacha, LockItUp and others who mentioned the age factor in this you guys are so right. I have 2 teen daughters and although they don't have weight issues, there are so many things that attack young girls (probably boys too, I don't have experience in that) these days. I have learned that I cannot fix things for them in a motherly, rational way - at least not all the time. I have had to learn to listen, listen, listen. OP, I hope you can sort through these words of wisdom that everyone has given to you, but do try to find someone in real life that will listen OR actually talk to someone who is already listening (therapist,teacher,family member). You may not think what those folks are saying to you is worth listening to, or that they are not really listening to you, but try to slow down and realize that maybe they really do hear you.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:49 PM   #44  
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I truly apologize.

I will take all of your advice and I will go talk to my doctor and therapist and stuff. Actually, I'm going to the therapist tomorrow. Perfect

Thank you all
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I truly apologize.

I will take all of your advice and I will go talk to my doctor and therapist and stuff. Actually, I'm going to the therapist tomorrow. Perfect

Thank you all
Good luck to you.
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