This really rubs me the wrong way...

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  • I agree with the above poster.

    I think there are two different subjects here. Does a person who is 10 lbs. overweight have as much right to their pain about it as the person who is 200 lbs. overweight? Absolutely.

    But should the 10 lb.-over person be moaning and complaining to the one 200 lb.-over person? No...not in my opinion. I think it is extremely inconsiderate.

    And come to think of it....it rarely, if ever, seems to be men who do this.
    And I agree with another poster above who said it's usually done to fish for compliments.

    deena

    PS...and Cali Doll....you look fabulous!
  • Deena, thank you very much!

    I'd also agree that no one wants to be around a constant moaner and groaner. What a total downer that would be.

    ETA:

    Quote: I think there are two different subjects here. Does a person who is 10 lbs. overweight have as much right to their pain about it as the person who is 200 lbs. overweight? Absolutely.

    But should the 10 lb.-over person be moaning and complaining to the one 200 lb.-over person? No...not in my opinion. I think it is extremely inconsiderate.
    Just thinking some more (danger! :-))... the above quote is, I think, based upon the assumption that the 200+ person is feeling badly about her size, right? What if the 200+ girl (or 50+ or 100+ etc) is very well known for being totally fine with her weight? Does that make a difference? Then is it OK for the 10+ girl to discuss her discomfort with her weight?
  • IMO it's all about context. On an individual level everyone is "entitled" to have a fat day or feel down on his/herself about size and weight. In a group setting, sometimes it's simply not kosher to complain about your weight when you are the smallest in the group. Other times it's perfectly fine, e.g. when talking to someone with whom you regularly discuss weight loss and diet etc. If the people you're talking to know what's up with you and are aware that you're concerned about your weight/are a work in progress, then I think it's fine to share what's on your mind. But it is always silly to insist that you are approaching cetacean proportions if you're not.
  • I don't think there's many women alive who haven't looked in the mirror and felt terrible about the reflection. While I'm not overweight, I have a higher body fat percentage making me feel poorly about my body. I also have no definite waistline, and that makes me feel large.
    I usually would not make comments about my feelings because I don't really want to alert attention to my trouble areas. With closer friends, I might express feeling "bloated" since every female can identify with that.

    I do know some very thin females who complain about being "soooo fat" solely in order to gain compliments and reassurance. That's really annoying and pathetic.
  • I wished I'd been bothered to act of my feeling fat when I wasn't very fat at all.
    It would have been so much easier if I'd had to watch what I ate for 3 weeks rather than 6 months.
    That fat feeling on gets greater - enough that you cave in an go up a dress size. Once you've gone up that dress size it's a paradigm shift.
  • I'd have to say that I agree with krampus regarding context....and I'm sure there are plenty of instances where the same or a similar comment could be made and totally not be inconsiderate.
    It's probably the way it comes across to me....if it sounds real and genuine, I'm totally okay with it. I can just sense the ones who are looking for compliments......or on rare occasions, just trying to make someone feel bad/worse.

    There are ways a person can speak on the topic and genuinely make you feel like they are actually trying to relate and to share with you. It's the ones that come across as almost intentionally inconsiderate that I don't appreciate. I always laugh it off because I'm not a very assertive person, but it does bug me.

    I lost a child in a MVA almost 6 years ago....and will run into friends, acquaintances...who struggle to say something sympathetic to me. And I always appreciate it, no matter what they say (though "dancing with the angels in heaven" is not all that helpful due to my religious beliefs). I know they are really trying to be nice and really don't know what to say. I actually feel sympathetic towards them for having to struggle with what to say to me and go out of my way to make them feel comfortable (assure them that I'm okay, etc.). Even if they say something that's kinda dopey, I still appreciate it.

    That's a different situation....and I can intuitively sense that they totally mean well and are being considerate.

    In nursing school they taught us that each patient's situation was a big deal to each one, regardless of whether it was as serious as the patient in the next room or not. The patient with gall bladder disease should be just as validated as the patient with terminal cancer, let's say. And I totally agree with that.
    But let's say that the person with GB disease is complaining and moaning in front of the one dying of cancer....could be a totally different story. Now perhaps the person has no idea of the other one's diagnosis/situation so in that case it's not intentional.
    But if the person does know.....and still does it....that's the type of situation I'm referring to.
    Or like the person who who always gets great grades is moaning about knowing she/he's gonna fail a test in front of someone with dyslexia who struggles to pass tests.

    And who, with considerate intentions, whines/complains about something to a person who clearly has it much worse (often when the speaker doesn't even have it at all, really) than the other person? IMO, Either the person is just that clueless and oblivious.....or they are doing it intentionally....and why in the heck would they want....or need....to do this?
    And if the situation is the one where the fat person likes being that way? Generally speaking, IMO, one should assume they can hurt someone's feelings until they learn that it happens to not apply in that particular case. Take the safe route and assume it would be hurtful....because it would in most cases.

    Now, can a person without a weight problem discuss worries about weight with a heavy person? Absolutely. It's all in the context of how and where it's said. And usually...it's me not liking it in defense of someone else in a group and I can intuitively sense it's just purely hurtful and inconsiderate. It's hurting me that the person is hurting the other one. You can just sense/intuit the context of it within seconds. The person who IS actually overweight may say to the first one, "gee, if YOU are fat, what does that make ME?" and the other will reply "oh, YOU'RE not fat." Really? Well, what is this then? Am I simply concerned about a problem I don't really have? Is my mirror at home a trick mirror?
    It's THAT sort of scenario that upsets me. I mean okay, if you said the first comment because you were just being oblivious.......don't make it worse by saying something that's clearly idiotic and just makes it worse.

    There are just things one should not say to or in front of certain other people. And it's usually quickly apparent when it's done intentionally and without any consideration. The person is usually fishing for compliments or is being insensitive or doing it intentionally. Some people need to make the person next to him/her unhappy/miserable in order to feel okay. The suffering of others makes them feel better....which is really sad for them, and when I really think about it. I'd rather have the weight problem than to be like that.

    deena