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Cowpernia 11-19-2005 12:26 PM

Cownucopia
 
Last night, I had a parenting nightmare. Just couldn't grasp what was happening for a bit nor what my motherly response was supposed to be.

DS went to a dance at his school which is 20 miles away in another town. I told him to call if he wouldn't be home by 10:30 since the dance ended at 10:00. He called and said he was going to a movie.

I tried to wait up but got sleepy and went to bed to read. I fell asleep but woke at 12:30 and called him to have him whisper on the phone that he was in the theater.

At 1:00, he called back and said he couldn't get to his car because he'd left it on campus and they'd locked all the gates. So, he asked, could he spend the night at Jeff's house? He's been hiding his friends names from me so I didn't have an idea who Jeff was BUT DS had to be at work at 7:00 a.m. today which I pointed out.

He seemed to want to sleep at this Jeff's house so I asked Jeff's phone number and got it. Where does Jeff live, I asked this boy at 1:00 in the morning, and he lives near the school EXCEPT THAT during the conversation Jeff turned into Beth and here I was on my way to giving sleep over permission.

But you have to be at work early, I said, I'll come get you. They were driving around and I couldn't pin him down on where to collect him. Besides everything was closed and it was a creepy idea.

Can Beth bring me home? he asked.

We don't want a GIRL to have to drive around by herself late at night, I answered.

He insisted. But it would be OK? She doesn't mind.

I got him to have Beth meet him halfway between. It was a schocking situation because I was making decision almost alseep and was saved largely by the 7:00 work schedule.

Once home, I had a nightmare that I'd fallen asleep in the living room after I got him home and someone tried to break in. In the dream, someone loudly shook the door and tried to open it, then went away. I only know it was a dream because I went straight to bed and was not in the living room during that time frame.

Now, he's at work and I'm exhausted.

By the Way, I want TONS OF SUPPORT from you all. I have decided to enroll in school in January and enter this new Florida program that turns people with college degrees into people with full-fledged teaching credentials. I need support from you because I know a bunch of teachers and expect NO support from them. I think there's a tendency there to see these newly trained, second thought teaches, as "not real teachers."

SugP 11-19-2005 05:00 PM

Oh my goodness, Peachy! I am NOT looking forward to my kids having a teen social life. :?: :?: Sounds like it's curfew time. At least he knows now that he can't leave his car on campus if he's going to be out late. So glad that everyone got home safely and I HATE those dreams with noises - so scary.

And YAY for enrolling in the training program!! :hug: You know we'll always support you. Ignore anyone else who tries to get in your way.

Cowpernia 11-19-2005 07:21 PM

Hi Sugar Plum, I'm sure that DS is totally innocent. Kids are different today. They don't date. They hang out with friends. He's so inexperienced in this hanging out since he's shy and we live in Stickville PLUS he has a male brain. But can you imagine a teen girl's parents having her come home with this boy to spend the night at 1:30 a.m.? I dont' think he meant anything wrong at all. Just not seeing it right.

Schatzi 11-19-2005 09:38 PM

Peachie: Good GAWD!!! That started out sounding like it could have turned out very bad... think about this: DS loved and trusted you enuf to call you with this problem...and you handled it very well, and with diplomacy so that BETH/JEFF didn't come off badly nor did your son... IMAGINE what you could do Awake and ALert!! .. I think going for a teaching cert is a wonderful idea! You can do this!! and you will be FABULOUS at it!!

Schatzi 11-19-2005 09:51 PM

Alrighty then: Since I'm the newest cow here :moo: , I will take on the chore of compiling the addy list for cards and what not for the holiday season.. so.. IM me with your email ..so I can get yer address--and then I will send to all--

ps: I'm only doing this so that I can get a box er pound of chicken bones outta the deal. hee heee ;)

Lush 11-19-2005 09:59 PM

Post regarding management of teenaged kids:

Oh dear. This is no fun, is it? How are his grades? Are they fine? Is he getting to work on time? Is his life running well? If he’s doing the things he has to do, there is no reason to worry. He’s a good, smart kid. However, I’m sure he is not unaware of his slippery nature. He doesn’t want you to know what is going on and that is why you don’t know what is going on. I have no idea who my kids are with most of the time. My mother had no idea who I was with, either, but she thought she did. He could lie to you and you would feel better. He doesn’t, so that is a plus.

It isn’t that he did anything technically wrong; it is that his actions had unintended consequences. You thought of Beth’s welfare when he suggested that she drive the 40 miles round trip by herself; he should have thought things through in the same way. He should know that he is responsible for the outcome when he chooses a certain course of action. The fact that he can’t predict what that outcome will be is what he has to learn; it is why he lives with you and is not ready to live alone.

Choosing to leave his car behind when he goes to a movie at 10:30PM has a thousand possible outcomes. I’ll bet 990 of them are negative. The fact that you had to be up at 1AM isn’t workable. He needs to be more considerate of you. In NJ kids under 18 can’t drive after 12. It would not be unreasonable for the two of you to agree on some boundaries, such as a curfew, that would make living together more pleasant. You aren’t a mother and child living together anymore. You are a mother and a (just about) adult living together. He needs to act like an adult by being courteous to you and being responsible.

My next post will deal with career considerations.

Schatzi 11-19-2005 10:09 PM

I am obviously the barren cow :^: Lushie speaks volumes of knowledge.

Lush 11-19-2005 10:30 PM

I just read my last post and it sounds very "Mrs Know-It-All" ish. I'm sorry. I'm too lazy to edit. Now Shatzi won't like me. Oh well.
All I meant is that I've had the same problem. I have made peace with it. I approach it from the me-adult/he-adult point of view rather than the mother-punishing-kid point of view. It is harder with DS than it was with DD. I suspect that may be because she was sneakier.


On the career thing. I believe NJ was the first state to institute alternate route teacher certification. At first those teachers did have to prove themselves but now it is 20 years later and it is fine. Many teachers who get a job right out of college and teach for 30 years do not have the life experience to be effective. That is why so many of them do such a terrible job. Our school has many alternate route teachers. I am the only contracted sub who has a traditional teaching degree, the rest are all alternate route. They actually like teaching because they chose it when they were old enough to make such a choice.

I think it is a great idea that you're doing this. I work with a girl whose mother(our age) is in medical school. This is the time to do it, you aren't getting any younger. Remember, we have a long way to go in our work life. We should do something we like.

On that note, I have a new secret, secret life plan. DH, whom I adore, is looking again at retiring. You may remember that he does this every 10 years~~~~ then moves right back into workaholicism at whatever endeavor he has chosen. What is new is that after not working at a job all last summer, he thinks he will set up a shop here and do more car/furniture restoring and arty stuff. That means he will be home. He has this vision of us being here, working on projects...living a more inner-directed life. This is a sure sign that it is time for me to think about not being home all day. I love him but not 24 hours a day. He makes me tired with his constant activity and he makes me look lazy.

So I am starting school. I am not going to medical school, but I am going in a medical direction. I am starting with basic anatomy classes that can go in a variety of directions. I haven't burst dh's bubble, he thinks I am just doing this because I want to understand dd's situation better. I also don't want to commit myself just in case I decide it isn't for me.

Lush 11-19-2005 10:47 PM

On other news.
Life is getting back to normal. Do you see that it is Saturday night and I have nothing to do but hang on the computer? Isn't that nice?

Shatizi, who are you? I live in NJ~ in the Pinelands. I have three kids-18, 15, 13. I am supposed to be a teacher but the fact that I hate other people's kids limits my enjoyment of the job.

I weigh about 160(used to be 150) for one day every September. Then I spend 6 months gaining a ton and six months losing a ton. Then it is September again and I have my day of glory. Usually this day passes without me noticing because I still think I will someday get into my Sergio Valente jeans.

As you see, overall, I'm not very interesting.
Tell me about you.

Schatzi 11-19-2005 10:47 PM

WHATCHOOO TAWKINBOUT LUSH!!! I may not know ya and we haveno cow history but let me LIST the reasons the Schatzinator could not NOt like Lushious

1. Umm ..yer from Joisey
2. Like a joisey broad you speak plain n true FAGGABOUTITTT
3. You make lists
4. Your dog looks like precious from Silence of the lambs
5. You know what a Schmattah is
6. You know what a bagel with a schmear is
7.You make lists that you can actually cross **** off a
8. umm. Yer from Joisey.

Schatzi 11-19-2005 10:57 PM

I sent youse a PM... cept Cherrycow came back as not a name.. I tried 2x with no luck...

Lush 11-19-2005 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Schatzi
WHATCHOOO TAWKINBOUT LUSH!!! I may not know ya and we haveno cow history but let me LIST the reasons the Schatzinator could not NOt like Lushious

1. Umm ..yer from Joisey

Actually, I'm from Pennsylvania. I'm held in NJ, against my will, by the bonds of marriage.
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2. Like a joisey broad you speak plain n true FAGGABOUTITTT

I have a PA Dutch accent and upspeak at the end of my sentences.
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Originally Posted by Schatzi
3. You make lists

Do you know about System Goddess? Please don't join. It is too hard on Kiwi. I forget the password and so she has to manage the whole thing.
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Originally Posted by Schatzi
4. Your dog looks like precious from Silence of the lambs

Really? As cute as my dog? I saw that movie but don't remember the dog. I will investigate.
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Originally Posted by Schatzi
5. You know what a Schmattah is

Well, I do now. I looked it up and I will use it in a sentence tonight. I don't live in a Schmattah part of NJ. I live in the Canoli section where the restaurants have no windows.
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Originally Posted by Schatzi
6. You know what a bagel with a schmear is

Yes, my problem is that a schmear is never enough.
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Originally Posted by Schatzi
7.You make lists that you can actually cross **** off a

Well, I guess I could cross things off if I ever got off my duff and did anything. Mostly I make lists.
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Originally Posted by Schatzi
8. umm. Yer from Joisey.

That I am. Where did you escape to?

Schatzi 11-19-2005 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=Lush]Actually, I'm from Pennsylvania. I'm held in NJ, against my will, by the bonds of marriage.

you married either an eyetalian, Irish or wayward german

I have a PA Dutch accent and upspeak at the end of my sentences.


Can you make them egg noodles or funnel cakes???

Do you know about System Goddess? Please don't join. It is too hard on Kiwi. I forget the password and so she has to manage the whole thing.

No, I don't Is this the WAKEYBAKEY GET ON THE BUSY BUS club?


Really? As cute as my dog? I saw that movie but don't remember the dog. I will investigate.
IT PUTS THE LOTION IN THE BAAAASKET scene... Classic dahlink

Well, I do now. I looked it up and I will use it in a sentence tonight. I don't live in a Schmattah part of NJ. I live in the Canoli section where the restaurants have no windows.

I am devastated. I thought fer sure ya wear one wit pride: Yummm Cannolis....

Yes, my problem is that a schmear is never enough.

I think cream cheese should be its own level on the food pyramid

Well, I guess I could cross things off if I ever got off my duff and did anything. Mostly I make lists.

ahh, but you could always Cross off " Make a list" from the list.. (Thats usually my first entry....such a sense of accomplishment )

Cowpernia 11-20-2005 08:55 AM

It is such a thrill to see Lushie here and especially heartwarming to see her playing so nicely with Shots.

Shots I will tell you about system goddess. Once, a long time ago, Lush had this idea that .. as a joke ... she would start a yahoo group for women to become perfect in the next year. Problem was non-cows found it and became quite involved and this meant work for Lush. But Kiwi, always the sweetheart to everyone, said she'd help and then ... Lush completely totally abandoned it. I think she may have withdrawn her membership. Anyway, it all fell to Kiwi who continued to respond to people who posted there. I don't know it it's still going or not.

I want you ALL to send me your blog names. I have lost Painty's and Kiwi's and adore Sugar's. Email them to me not private message if possible as PM is too hard to use.

Bye Lushie ... stay and talk about your new goals. I need to hear this.

Lush 11-20-2005 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowpernia

Shots I will tell you about system goddess. Lush completely totally abandoned it. I think she may have withdrawn her membership. Anyway, it all fell to Kiwi who continued to respond to people who posted there.



I see I have to mount a defense. Shots, SG started as a joke it is not my fault that people took it seriously. After I started it, I went away for a few months so Kiwi was in charge. Then when I came back, I tried to make it disappear but I lost the password. Because I gave a fake birthday and fake information the password is lost because I can't remember any of the fake information I gave to Yahoo in order to prove I am who I am so I can't delete it. If you're interested, here it is:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/W...441/index.html


For Kiwi's sake, please don't join.

Peaches, I am too lazy and boring to have a blog.

PainterWoman 11-21-2005 12:08 AM

Who was going to tell me the thread changed? Hmmm? Hmmm? !!! ;)

Oh... and another thing!!
Would you go to to this map thingy and put a push pin and a hello where you are? Maybe I can get everybody accurately located!! Thanks!! :o :dizzy:
And my blog is here

Cherry Cow 11-21-2005 06:45 AM

Blogs? I'm not the only one with a blog? Fascinating! I'd also like to know everyone's blogs. I know Kiwi's house blog and the fabulous System Goddess, but that's it. I lost the rest of my bookmarks.

Peachy, I think it's a great idea that you're going to be a teacher! I think Lushie is right, and she would know, that kids who go into it out of high school don't have enough life experience (it's ever so fun to be lectured about child-rearing by a childless 22-year-old with a six-month practicum under her 26-inch belt.) I work at a teacher's college and sometimes I look at these little girls and wonder if they've really thought about why they're going into teaching. I know it's possible to have a calling for it, but I think they should do something else for a few years-- get a taste of what life is like for the rest of the world-- and then go into teaching. I suspect that there would be fewer cases of burnout, which is really common among new teachers. I think sometimes kids get into teaching because school is the only workplace they understand and maybe they're a bit afraid to leave it. I'm glad I'll have so much experience elsewhere before I get my certification.

It's Thanksgiving break, so I'll have a whole week to hang out here and obsess about weight loss! I'm considering starting the McDougall plan, which I expound upon at length on my blog. I have to do something about my health problems, because it's only sheer will that keeps them from interfering with my life and my education.

Hi to all the cows!

Bagzz 11-21-2005 09:59 AM

oh my GAWD!!!!---lushie has been resurrected in true Catholic Glory from her blueberry patch!!! what a WONDERFUL christmas gift for the Cowpatch!!!---i can't even read all of this and absorb it---i will be back to make loud EFFIN comments-----WHAT A STORM OF INFORMATION--- i was on my way to the shop and thought i would check in for a second and WOW!!!--gotta go to work but i do have to say to peacharse--- YOU GO GIRL!!!! FABULOUS IDEA---AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE ANYWHERE AND TEACH ANYWHERE!!!!! YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Lush 11-21-2005 10:26 AM

I'm here. I'm addicted to a new thing. It is called Spider Solitaire. Remember when I used to be addicted to Freecell? Spider Solitaire is so much better. It is practically impossible to win. It is very hard. AND you can keep playing and playing the same game all different ways until you see if it is winnable. I love it. It wastes all the time I could be wasting with you.
Hi Bagzie, how's tricks? How is the store coming along? I guess you're busy with the holidays...any displays to show us?
I went to college to be a teacher because that was all girls did when I went to college.
Peaches there are a thousand practice Praxis tests on the internet. The only part that is hard for people or our age is all the 'new age' child management and child psychology phooey that they want you to know about. The rest is trivia.

L

Cowpernia 11-21-2005 10:49 AM

What is Praxis. Personally, I'm not afraid of spiders but I'm not inclined to play with them either. Now, cockroach solitarie would eliminate me immediately. Dog solitarie might. I don't like their:

1. Voices
2. Feet
3. Tongues

Jet is adorable but so nicely far away.

Cherry Cow 11-21-2005 11:17 AM

Lushie, I know what you're saying. An older member of my family might have been a mathematics researcher or computer engineer, but because she was a girl, she became a math teacher. She doesn't even like children.

Peachy, becoming a member just means clicking the "register" link and putting in your name and email address. I had to do that because of spam. As far as I know, I'm the only person who has access to the info. Also, I don't watch TV news shows about dirty houses... they have no sense of perspective. Books are not dirt-- except to journalists.

Kiwonk 11-21-2005 12:06 PM

Great thread title, Cowpeach!
 
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Originally Posted by Schatzi
Alrighty then: Since I'm the newest cow here :moo: , I will take on the chore of compiling the addy list for cards and what not for the holiday season.. so.. IM me with your email ..so I can get yer address--and then I will send to all--

Schatzi dear, as the newest cowchick, there is no need to compile a new list. It's in your email by now; add your name and send it back to ever'body. Lushie, not sure what email you are using; I sent it to a yahoo addy. Yoohoo, Lush, is it Yahoo?
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Originally Posted by PainterWoman
And too too bad about Europe tour deal... is there anychance she could go with some OTHER group and apply the '"down payment"? DD went on that Winjammer yarn cruise with mostly retired women, and actually had a blast. I'd certainly rather go to Europe with a bunch of high school students than old farts with walkers.

Yeah, me too. I think it would be a blast to take a few kids to Europe. And heck, maybe that's just what I should do -- we could have our own edumacational tour. I'll bet I could do it for half what they were going to charge anyway.
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That really sucks about the mammo, Kiwi! I think EVERY woman should be entitled to a free one or at least at a reasonable cost. I guess I'll be due for one some time soon but it's only covered if they already suspect something. Duh.

Ah. Good point -- this is a retest (they said to be retested in 6 months or so, but didn't say why -- not that I am particularly worried) -- if I had normal insurance, it should be covered. However I have only major medical now -- $10,000 deductible :eek: -- so I'm looking for other ways to pay less.

Oy, Peachie, you are having fun, aren't you? My first reaction is that you need to be all over him about this, but that probably wouldn't help. You are right about the way kids do things now, it's hard for us to figure out what they're doing because we were different. I think you should play up the poor mom having a heart attack with worry angle and insist that you have an open conversation about his friends. I would be having the same problem if DD's school were as far from home as DS's (and if I didn't stick my nose in rather frequently in her activities, which I know you do too). Maybe you could tell him you're worried he's "getting hopped up on drugs". He'd feel so sorry for your completely hopeless uncoolness that he might feel the need to explain what's really going on. Or not.

Anyway, way to go on the edumacation decision. I think that will be great! Believe me, if your future coworkers didn't snipe at you for being in that program, it would be for something else, best develop a thick skin! I'm always horrified at how political some workplaces are and schools seem to be as bad as anywhere.

Have to go help DH with the boat cover. Will read the rest of the discussion later, hopefully what I have written is not too hopelessly outdated.

Kiwi

Cowpernia 11-21-2005 12:16 PM

I had to delete my previous list in a panic. While registering with the Us Department of Ed, I copied and emailed some stuff to myself. Accdientally, then, I pasted it in my post.

So new list:
1. exercise
2. clean for a hour
3. Look at the financial aid thing again.

What I did :dance: is request 3 transcripts be send to Fl DOE; apply to FL DOE; look at financial aid see that I have to get something in stupid snail mail to continue; apply at US Dept of Ed for PIN number and see that it takes 3 days to arrive in email; fill in aplication for emplyment at college and put in mail. :beach:

Schatzi 11-21-2005 12:42 PM

Kiwi, you are the System Goddess! How organized you are ! Thankyou for the Xmas list..I've updated and returned to all....
I think that some areas come around with the mammomobile where you can get free mammograms... perhaps you can call your health insurance carrier to help you with a low cost or free one....And.... why won't the school make you whole on the money you put down for this trip? Something just sounds fishy to me...its just not right I say!!!!

Peachpit: I sense such enthusiasm in yer list!! I think this is gonna be wonderful for you and thanks for the background on system goddess...yer the historian round here!

Painty: I added my locale to yer Frapper thingie...and Hmmmm I'm Abe Lincoln tooo...and my movie is Raiders of the Lost ark...how amusing.

Lush: The system goddess made a interrrresting read... however since math was never my strong suit I would fail in the point calculation portion of the system...I held back my desire to JOIN THE LIST indeference to Kiwi...

Oh woe Cherry! Health issues??????Good Gravy ...and I dont know where your blog is lest I would read it along with Paintys and Cowpeach

This weekend was spent raking pounds of leaves, trimming hedges, and massive ninja like pruning on a Laterna out front... we then went to pick up a cord of wood for the fireplace... I thought fer sure I would suffer from Flipper Syndrome since I havent had n upper body in years....but thankfully I can lay my elbows on the table as I type this...as the most I can manage with my arms is ummm Penguin like mobility.

Wabby 11-21-2005 05:10 PM

Schatzi-this weekend should have been spent raking leaves and such, but I spent the majority of it being lazy. We went to see Walk the Line which was a good movie. Napped. Ate. Little bit o' shopping. You get the picture.

DH's brother and sil are in town, visiting from Texas. I expect to be going out to dinner tonight and eat and drink waaaay too much.

Peach, I'm so relieved to not have those late night worry sessions anymore. I think you did just fine. If DS were one to get into trouble you might have reason to be concerned, but he's proven himself to be pretty responsible and level headed. I think the actual parenting ends somewhere around the 15 to 16 yr old range. After that, we just have to trust that what we've taught them sticks. Oh, and worry - we always have to worry..... of course you will be a wonderful teacher..... you can do anything you set your mind to, darlin'.

Painty - I'm Mother Teresa. I really, really don't like that. I need to work on it.

Hi Lushy, I'm so glad to see you hanging w/ the herd - but you knew that. :yes: I'm a closet Spider Solitaire addict too.... but only the first level because I like to play solitaire and let my mind wander.... kind of like computer meditation. Instead of repeating a mantra, I play solitaire. It will completely empty your brain. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to refill it with anything useful.

Hey to the rest youz cows too - didja have a good weekend?

Cowpernia 11-22-2005 09:35 AM

Thank you for the encouragment Wabbo.

It has been at least a week since I cut out sugar and bread. I feel better MUCH BETTER but my butt has not shrunk. Why is that? What am I supposed to snack on? Not cheese and dried fruit? Chocolate Silk? (so good) Celery with peanut butter?

Schatzi 11-22-2005 11:02 AM

I snack on celery with natural PB...and celery stuffed with egg salad...turkey or salami rollups "buttered" with Lite Laughing cow... also roasted chick peas are good...

Cowpernia 11-22-2005 11:09 AM

How do you roast a chick pea?

Wabbo, I wanted to point out to you that I messed around with the questions on the World Leader survey and became Hitler!! You should be very very proud to be Mother Theresa, I think. If I really got Hilter with my true answers, I would tell no one.

Schatzi 11-22-2005 11:15 AM

I have nothing to say today...so I thought I would share that I have a crippling aversion to sticking my hands in a turkey carcass... This has led me to creative methods to the cleaning and stuffing of the turkey which keeps my hands outta it's cavity.(Patent pending).

1) put turkey in sink
2) Holding by legs, use the sink sprayer to wash out the innards
3) Using a long handled spork, gently scrap out any remaining turkey lungs
4) Repeat step 3
5) Turn turkey upside down to drain the water
6) Wrap Paper towels around a Potato masher - secure it with a rubber band and proceed to dry the carcass out by plunging and extracting the masher.
7) Using a long handled ladle as a catapult, I wing sling the stuffing into the turkey carcass
8) Mash the stuffing down with the Masher (sans paper towel)
9) Repeat steps 7 and 8 until chockfull
10) Sew up the turkey hiney and roast.

Cowpernia 11-22-2005 11:40 AM

That is motivational but PLEASE SAY you aren't putting that stuffing in now. You're defrosting a bird, right?

Wabby 11-22-2005 12:15 PM

Of course Schatzi isn't stuffing her bird yet. She's safely defrosting it in the refrigerator. I don't stuff my bird. I cook Grandma's cornbread stuffing in a casserole. I do brine my turkey. It makes it so yummy it's worth the extra work.

You absolutely can't believe my ordeal this morning. I have a crippling aversion to rodents of any kind. (Turkey carcasses don't bother me, by the way.) Anyhoo, I dragged myself outta the sack this morning and I was sitting in the front room w/ my cuppa joe. You can see into the kitchen from there, and around the corner into the kitchen a rat sauntered in..... not a mouse----- A RAT!!!!! :fr: :fr: :fr: :fr: I am totally freaked out. I had to wear jeans to work today because I'd have to go thru that area of the house to get to my laundry room so I couldn't iron any slacks. I don't know how this critter decided to move into my house. We have an unfinished basement. Maybe he got in there. I hate living in an old farm house. Do new houses ever get rats? I'm calling an exterminator today. DH says he's looking for dog food, but I keep the dog food in a plastic tub w/ a lid on it. I guess we won't be able to leave dog food out in my doggies dish anymore. What's really freaking me out is the old saying "if you see one rat, there's 10 more you don't see". Eeeeek.

My sil is here visiting. She's an executive for Dell Computers. She travels constantly to exotic places in the far east. She's living my alternate life..... D*mn it. I bet she doesn't have a rat.

Cowpernia 11-22-2005 12:27 PM

Don't you have a little dog or cat to chase the rat? Icky icky rat. I had to quit leaving cat food out because of ants. Now the ants have gone and I can leave it out again. But rats are WORSE. Poor Wabby.

Does sil speak the native language of India? I don't enjoy talking to those people because they're just hard to understand. I've had my share of Dell problems already.

DS just called to say he's going to a movie after school. I'm glad. He needs a social life. I suggested he be home before 11 and not get his car locked up anywhere.

Wabby 11-22-2005 12:47 PM

I have 2 BIG dogs. Apparently I shouldn't have gotten a Golden Retriever. I should have bought a Rat Terrier. My Golden Retriever was sleeping at my feet when the rat skittered in. He slept thru it.

SIL claims no responsibility for east Indian tech support. She knows all kinds of interesting stuff about China, though. She drinks Scotch just like a grown up.

Schatzi 11-22-2005 01:00 PM

Peach: here's a link to the South Beach Recipe for Roasted chick Peas... they have lots of A--B--C--DElicious recipes on that forum...http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31582


OH WOE WABBY!!!!! RATS EWWWWWWW Yer a better woman than I -I would have ran outta the house SCA-REEEEEMING nevah to return before the Exterminator exterminated that vermin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm with peachy, I hate the fact that Dell outsourced the dell Support... unfortunately I had my run ins with india and outsourcing coding and claim processing.... A DISMAL FAILURE... The company slowly withdrew from oversea outsourcing...cept fer Ireland.. oooh SIL get's to travel to far off exotic locales..must be wonderful. ..I don't drink scotch...ergo ipso...I STAY FOREVAH A CHILD IN A WRINKLY BODY!!

Cowpernia 11-22-2005 01:17 PM

Thanks Shots. I'll be making them.

I don't drink nothing which makes me a bore at times. But I'm missing those who do: Bagz, Kiwi, Lush in alphabetical order.

Wabby 11-22-2005 04:09 PM

I made an appt. w/ the exterminator. They can't come until Dec. 1!!!! They suggested I buy a big trap until then. Argh. How am I going to sleep tonight?

SugP 11-22-2005 04:11 PM

Boy, Schatzi, that's some way to stuff a turkey. :D I usually just bite the bullet and yank everything out with my bare hands, hoping not to turn the whole kitchen into Salmonella Station.

Rodents don't bother me much. But I don't like martens - one chewed through the ignition cable on my car, the little devil.

I know most of you cows need to get through Thanksgiving first, but I'm already thinking about Christmas Displays. I have the urge to do creative things with cinammon sticks and dried orange slices. Sunday is the first Advent Sunday and I need to make a wreath to plop on the table. I have candles and ribbon already.

I barely ever take a drink of anything alcoholic, but last summer I discovered Bomby Sapphire Gin and it's SOOOOOOO good.

Anybody every grown a lemon tree inside? Dh brought one home and there are about 20 l'il green lemons and two big ones on it. I'm hoping it's a dwarf tree because I read the regular ones can grow up to 25 ft high. :o

Cowpernia 11-22-2005 06:15 PM

I've sprouted lemon seeds and made tiny trees. They needs lots of sun. Actually, citrus doesn't even grow as far north as I am here in Florida. Maybe indoors in a good idea. Can we name it?

PainterWoman 11-22-2005 10:27 PM

Um... addenda: If you want to have a copy of the address list e-mailed to me... you'll need to either email ME, or include your email in the PM..... My email is:
4dana(at)airmail(dot)net

thanks.

Kiwonk 11-22-2005 10:34 PM

Oh my god Wabbit! Move out! What am I saying -- I live with a roof-full of bats and a basement full of mice. But still, EEEEEK!!!!

Schatzi, I am the most DISorganized human being ever. The only reason I can appear organized is through the magic of computers. See, I never throw anything away pretty much and that is not very helpful in the house, because just because I have it doesn't mean I can put my hands on it. However, on the computer, nothing really gets lost because of handy dandy search. So I can go and look at email messages from last December and drag out all those addresses. Voila! Organization!

I cannot believe you printed that SG url, Lush. Do you know they started up again and I had to approve a bunch of new messages a couple of weeks ago? Oy, I suppose I'd better go look again.

I used to play Spider, but I always played medium level so I won most of the time :lol:

How long does it take for fruit flies to go away once you find the thing they were feeding on?

We went to parent/teacher conferences this evening. Everything is a-ok, but the funny thing was that almost every teacher referred to DD and her bf in the same breath. Now granted that they are the #1 and #2 student in their class and take apparently almost every single class together (that predates their "item-ness"), but they all were aware of the fact that they were going out together and said something about it (they did say it wasn't a problem). I have never had this experience before, is this common? It is very wierd. I guess it wouldn't be like that if he wasn't the kind of kid that teachers like, but geez it's disconcerting.

I also got to see part of the play this afternoon. It's way fun.

However I am mungo depressed. It has been raining since early this morning. After p/t conferences, DH & I hit the :mcd: drive-thru and we both got lovely grilled chicken caesar salads. However when I got home, the kitchen was leaking again in spite of the fact that DH patched the roof again a couple of weeks ago, and I had to mop up water and rearrange the dog pen to accomodate the drips and take the dog out who was very antsy because of being inside so much today. And then I had to take her out again because she was driving me crazy and I knew I wouldn't be able to eat my dinner in peace. I finally sat down at the computer with my salad at about 8:30 and soon discovered that I would need a knife for the chicken (why would they bother slicing it 75% through?). Then I discovered that I'm allergic to something in the salad and my throat was itching like crazy. Meanwhile the dog was driving me crazy, grabbing paper and hiding under desk (yeah, that was cute the first 500 times you did it, puppy). I finally gave up, put the salad in the fridge and poured myself a giant glass of Bailey's. I am planning to get drunk, but I keep typing so much, it seems doubtful. My life is so stupid.

:thanks2: :happ3: :thanks1: Very interesting method of turkey cleaning, Schatzi. You are quite inventive. Me, I don't have a problem with sticking my hand up a turkey butt.

Movie = necking

I'm just saying.

Oh yeah, I got my boobies squooshed today. It were okey-dokey, no big d. Hope there was no good reason for this 6 month followup. Good grief they hire some young little chickies at the lab -- the tech couldn't have more than 12. But very personable.

Sugar? Did I see in print that you have a BLOG? Where oh where? I must know!

Kiwi


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