Hahaha Guess what world leader I am? I'll give you one hint: starts with A

Would that be Anakin?

Thanksgiving I am going to friend's house where there will be FRESH NEVER FROZEN turkey (she thinks this is great), ham, and other stuff. DS will work all day. Friday I intend to cook a turkey. For the fresh turkey feast, I am to bring a tray of celery and carrots. I don't know what else to put on it. Really. This is too dull. Maybe I'll say I forgot.

I have a movie to recommend for those who understand French or read subtitles. A La Mode. Very warm, funny, tender movie about 17 year old orphans who are apprenticed out to tradesmen. Boys not Jewish. Tradesmen Jewish. Boys weird and sweet and know-it-all like 17-yos I know. Adults very tender toward boys. I watched it twice so far.

Originally Posted by Kiwonk:
Sugar? Did I see in print that you have a BLOG? Where oh where? I must know!
Kiwi

Ja wohl! I've had one since April, but I just never got around to telling anybody. :D

I emailed y'all with the details.

Wabby, I DREAMED about rats last night. You need a cat. I don't think dogs care about rodents very much(unless you keep the dog hungry). My dog will sleep right through mouse visits. Please call another exterminator.
Remember "doubleclick"? It was Francine's company- it went public back in Cybermom days. I bought 10 shares, for about 4 dollars. Then they got caught selling information about their visitors and went in the toilet. Now they are subject to a class action suit. I am getting a settlement of about $0.30. I feel better now.
I must go force children to go to school.
Cat, Wabby, get a cat. If you see any more rats, don't tell us. It opens up too many possibilities.

Originally Posted by SugP:
I know most of you cows need to get through Thanksgiving first, but I'm already thinking about Christmas Displays. I have the urge to do creative things with cinammon sticks and dried orange slices. Sunday is the first Advent Sunday and I need to make a wreath to plop on the table. I have candles and ribbon already.

Oooh Sugah, so do I ... I'll be making a wreath for our door... and some decorated garland for the top of the kitchen cabinets.. and I looooove candles: burn them constantly in the fall/winter...so I'll pick up some cinnamony and piney ones for the holiday season.

Originally Posted by Wabby:
I do brine my turkey. It makes it so yummy it's worth the extra work.

How do you Brine a turkey???does it make the skin all crispy and brown ?? yummmmmmmmmm!

Originally Posted by kiwonk:
I am mungo depressed

Well this makes me mungo concerned. I think I will have a large glass of Baileys to commiserate. Does this have to do with the leaks and meeses..and what not with the house. I wish I knew how to help that wouldn't cost money...but I would do some strategic sabotage ... and pull a TAWANDA! (this is a reference to one of my fav movies: Fried Green Tomatoes, where Kathy Bates takes a hatchet to her walls...heh heh) :devil

Originally Posted by Cowpernia:
I am to bring a tray of celery and carrots. I don't know what else to put on it. Really. This is too dull.

OOoh yummy, snicky snack on veggies thats the best part of holiday fare... Add some Black/Green Olives, pepper slices, broccoli/couliflower and a easy dip lie sourcream and a packet of Good seasons dressing...
A.B.C.DELish!!!!!!!

m.u.s.t. g.e.t c.a.w.f.e.e. (why Lookie here, schatzi mastered the multiple quote thingy!)

I have updated my blogroll and sent an email about my blogs to everyone.

Well, two and a half weeks after giving up dairy, I might be down four pounds. Who knows. My scale is all wonky right now.

Kiwi- yay for your good news!

Schatz-- I don't like touching raw meat. We'd be vegetarian if I was responsible for the cooking.

Well, I just wanted to share the interesting news about my possible weight loss.

Day 2 of Rat Watch - I bought a trap and poison for DH to put in the basement. The trap is set, but DH hasn't put out the poison and I'm NOT going into the basement to put it out. When I'm home I spend most of my time talking very loudly to my doggies or singing "I am coming 'round the corner yes I am, I am coming 'round the corner yesssss I yammmmmm. All the rats had better hide out yes they haddddd, oh the rats had better hide out yes they haaaaddddddd" Of course to the tune of "She'll be coming 'round the mountain". I figure if I make enough noise I won't surprise a critter. I'm leaving no dry dog food out unless the doggies are actually eating it. Geez. It's all I can think of.

Kiwi, there is probably nothing more depressing than a leaky roof. Sounds like ya got a case of cabin fever. What happened to the roof guy you had fix it last year? or was that the year before? Grandpa Jim's mobile home has sprung a few leaks this year too. We hate to put a new roof on a 40 yr old mobile home that we're planning on demolishing when we move out, but we can't let Grandpa live in a leaky house either. What to do? Speaking of Grandpa Jim - we took him out to dinner and everyone was piling into the car. I was sitting in the front passenger's seat, and I shut the door on poor Grandpa's fingers as he was getting in the back seat behind me. Ohmygod. I felt sooooo terrible, and that was before DH kept going on and on about it. Then when we arrived at the restaurant and everybody wanted to know where Grandpa was (he insisted on staying home after I mangled him) and then after everybody else went on for a half hour about how I'd slammed his fingers in the door, I was ready to go slam my own head in the door just to shut them all up. It was an effin accident, people!!!!!Now that doesn't sound like Mother Teresa, does it?

Peaches, my turkey is a fresh, never frozen one too. Mostly because if I buy a frozen one, I never can seem to get it to thaw out in the fridge, and I'm afraid of poisoning everyone if I do the quick thaw in water method. Schatzi, to brine a turkey you soak it for 6 hours in a water, kosher salt, brown sugar, and spice solution. It does some chemical thing to the bird and makes it very, very moist. It makes it the most delicious turkey you will ever eat. Then I stuff him w/ celery, onions and whole garlic cloves, rub sage butter under his breast skin, cook him @ 500 degrees for the first 30 minutes, then 350 degrees to finish him off w/ a foil tent over the breast area. This is my baby sister's recipe she got out of Gourmet magazine.

Note to self: buy bottle of Bailey's on way home. Kiwi, you're a bad influence. :devil:

Lush, my dogs aren't much for being rodent hunters, but they would definitely terrorize a kitty.

Geez. My older sister just called. She's in Arizona w/ my parents. She called to let me know that my younger sister is having Thanksgiving w/ just her husband and son all by themselves and she strongly suggested I invite them for Thanksgiving dinner, which would be fine by me, but here's my dilemma - I have put out the word that we are having dinner w/ DH's family so that I wouldn't have to invite my whacky family for dinner. Because A. My brother is an alcoholic and even tho he's on the wagon now, there's a whole lotta water under the bridge that I don't feel like dealing with. B. I absolutely can not stand his GF. C. My niece is a stripper that I don't want to have to deal with. D. My other brother is an active alcoholic E. I've gotten tired of cooking for all of them, for them just to bring their appetites to dinner. F. I prefer my immediate family for company. The problem is that we really aren't having dinner w/ DH's side of the family. We're having dinner w/ our children and Grandpa Jim. A nice quiet dinner w/ no drama. Now I'd love to have my younger sister and her family for dinner, but I would have to ask her to keep it quiet or we will be besieged w/ everyone else. Isn't this exactly what Thanksgiving is not supposed to be? I'd love to feel like our home is open to everyone, but my family makes me crazy. Why wasn't I smart enough to move across the country away from relatives years ago?

Lush, I expect you have the answer to this dilemma.

I always get a fresh turkey, too. I don't brine it. Should I? Can I still stuff it? I'm thinking about it. I have to find something to soak it in. It is 25lbs....even though it's only us.
On the exciting front...RENT is in the theater today!!!!! I'm sure Peaches is running out to see all those buggering dancers hop across her screen.
I'm going to go chop things then brine. I am happy to be back.

Lusho, we are happy to have you back.

And wabbbbby, I don't ever every think that Mother Theresa was without emotion. I'm sure she felt fed up plenty of times. Remember when that committee wanted her to vote to condemn the actions of Sadaam Husein and she said NO, it is not for me to judge or condemn anyone! Remember when some celebrity visited her and tried to do the celebrity thing and she MADE THEM nurse dying lepers. She was no push over. Neither are you. She just did what she believed was right and meant the best for those who have the least. You?

I would say I now want a fresh turkey but it would be a lie. I want a pile of cooked sliced turkey breast. Smoked preferably.

I want to have Thanksgiving with a stripper. I have having it at my friends house with her friend who always visits from out-of-state. For the past several years, he's brought this girlfriend who is a step down from a stripper. They exchange Christmas presents at this time and one year she gave my friend's DH a new shirt with the shoplifitng-foolproof tag still attached. He had to throw it out.

Not going to see Rent. I will wait for Lush to tell me what I've missed.

Kiwi ... a week or so ago I emailed you about my depression and feedback I was getting about it. Then I gave up sugar and break and I am not depressed now. I AM NOT. If I were, I would forgive myself since my life is a crock o refried beans with lard, but I am emotionally stable and it's just that d**n sugar. Lush agrees.

Originally Posted by Cowpernia:
Would that be Anakin?

Nope. Albert.

Originally Posted by Cowpernia:
I am to bring a tray of celery and carrots. I don't know what else to put on it. Really. This is too dull. Maybe I'll say I forgot.

Well, since that's my only job pretty much at our family dinners, I do know what to put on it. If you are bringing a dip to go with it, there are lots of great things to add: Raw broccoli or cauliflower broken up into trees, different colored bell pepper sticks, grape tomatoes, mushrooms quartered or sliced thick. The dip should be made from veggie dry soup mix mixed with full fat sour cream. Or a dill dip is good too. If you're not bringing a dip, the only thing I can think of is black olives, which I don't even like and if you pour them all over the carrots and celery, I wouldn't eat those either...

My previous dog was afraid of mice. Not sure about this one yet, she hasn't seen any. I suspect she will be delighted to make their acquaintance and attempt to play with them. You should see her with one of our cats -- the cat lets her get pretty close and sniff her, but when she starts to try to play, the cat raises a paw to her (rarely hits her). Jet thinks this is fun too and frequently matches the paw raising, or hops around on her back legs to try to get the cat to play. She will never be convinced that the cats don't love her.

I had forgotten about Francine's company, Lush. I seem to remember I didn't like what she was doing, or maybe it was the way they just yanked Cybermom off the web without any warning, and then later wrote to us asking for our business for something or other. I'm glad she got sued. What kind of nasty person takes names entrusted to her and hands them over for $$ anyway?

Originally Posted by Schatzi:
.but I would do some strategic sabotage ... and pull a TAWANDA! (this is a reference to one of my fav movies: Fried Green Tomatoes, where Kathy Bates takes a hatchet to her walls...heh heh) :devil:

You're bad! But you give me ideas.... :chin:

More later, the more I write the more behind I get.

Kiwi

Kiwi, I googled Albert world leader and got Albert Pike, Bip Whoppe in the KKK. Surely not! Who the heck are you? I am Lincoln as it Paintyl

DS has been nominated for the USA Today All Academic Team. I know the name looks wrong and we don't know what it is except that we looked it up on the net. yay anyhow! It says he gets $100. Last year, he went National Science Something in D.C. and was supposed to get $100. So now we joke about it.

Wabby, the family thing is such a drag.
Let me ask you,do you remember drunken holidays? Worse, do you remember the reformed drunk sitting in the corner further aggravating the situation but making remarks to provoke the people who still get drunk? If you did, you wouldn't have a qualm about what you're doing. Don't have the sister. Don't feel guilty. It would be nice to have and open door policy but that isn't in the cards. You have your own family. Enjoy them! With grandchildren on the way, your children have a right to start their own family traditions.
I'm brining my turkey. No one answered about the stuffing, so I am stuffing it. I like it that way. My turnips and potatoes are cooking.
Peaches, isn't it depressing all by itself that sugar causes depression? After tomorrow, I think I will go off it so my Christmas isn't depressing. We went skiing last year and it was fun. This year, dd wants to work over vacation because she hasn't worked for so long. So, I dont' know what we're going to do. Maybe a movie. Maybe Atlantic City for a show.
gotta cook.

Too late, Lush, I already asked the sister. She's ok. She and her DH have a few issues, but they are good at keeping it under wraps even tho, of course, every one knows about it. I prefer the Don't ask, Don't tell policy.

Peaches, to tell you the truth, I wouldn't mind having my stripper niece over for Thanksgiving, but DH has a harder time tolerating her. I think he's much more judgmental about these things. I'm more understanding because when she was little I spent lots of time caring for her. Her mother was a very active alcoholic, she had no supervision and got pregnant at 15 and has generally had a pretty hard life, not that it qualifies her to live an immoral life, but it explains things. And I still do love her. My extended family just makes my heart ache.

Now my Mom just called to tell me she & my Dad will be here on Dec. 18th and they are planning Christmas Eve at their new house. Of course, if you're following our family saga you all know DH and my kids won't step foot in my parents house. So I'm looking forward to more angst next month. Lord, how I love the holidays. :snowball:

Lush, just don't stuff it before you brine it.

I almost forgot ----

:cp: :cb: :cheer: :encore: :bravo: :cp:

Yeee, haaaaa, Peach Boy! Atta boy!

Thanks Wabby, I think I knew that but you never know!
Congrats to the Cowmrade. Tell him to spend his 100 bucks well.
I'm still cooking. I'm trying to motivate the rest of the group to share my sense of urgency. This year, I told everyone that they have to contribute two items to the dinner. Boy was that a bad idea! Guess who's doing all the work.
Opps our recipe just loaded, bye

I got the Alton Brown recipe as a link from someone on SBD forum doing the same Brinning/seasoning... I will save for next year..too many missing ingredients and I'm making a dwarf turkey just for the 2 of us.

Wabby; Hugs ...that's all I can say.. are you sure we're not related..cuz there are soo many parallels . Do what your heart tells you , and your and your DH and DKs psyche and stomach can handle. cuz yer damned if ya do...and damned if ya don't darlin.

Peachy: Yay for Sonny Boy!!! He beeee Schmacht!

I'm Albert Einstein. How did they know?

Hope y'all have great fun with briney turkeys and pickled relatives. I will be spending a Thursday just like any other Thursday around here. Zzzzz.

Originally Posted by Cowpernia:
Kiwi, I googled Albert world leader and got Albert Pike, Bip Whoppe in the KKK. Surely not! Who the heck are you? I am Lincoln as it Paintyl

Ewww! Didn't you guys look at the descriptions of the possible results on that thing? There were only 6 or 8 choices. Think unruly hair, chalk dust.
Yeah, I know, not exactly a world leader, but neither is Mother Theresa.

Kiwi

See, Sugar? did you get my email? We were separated at birth.

OK my darling cowsies..... I'm signing off for the weekend...... just want you all to have a loverly
Happy Thanksgiving!!!! :turkey: :turkey: :turkey: and I hope you Canadians and Canadians in Foreign Lands have a good weekend too.

I'm off to slave over my hot oven!!! :happ3:

nope. I didnt see the descriptions. I messed around with and found Hilter which was quite enough messing around for me. You and Sugar are the same.

I want you all to visit my new blog and leave comments about me being a genius like Sugar did. Then I want you to come vacuum my carpet.

Thanks to Kiwi and Shots for the celery plate info. I have asked DS to bring home the appropriate things from work. And catfood. While he was out, I went to WMart. Think he'll notice?

Originally Posted by Wabby:
Day 2 of Rat Watch - .... singing "I am coming 'round the corner yes I am, I am coming 'round the corner yesssss I yammmmmm. All the rats had better hide out yes they haddddd, oh the rats had better hide out yes they haaaaddddddd"

..... What happened to the roof guy you had fix it last year? or was that the year before? ....

I absolutely do not blame you for the rat-singing. I would be doing the same thing. Last night DD and I had to battle a giant spider (DH had gone to bed). We were brave and true and we defeated the enemy.

Yeah, we had another roof guy work on it last year I think. And DH has patched it over and over. It just keeps leaking and leaking. It's pretty hopeless. Even if it were permanently fixed, the whole ceiling and whatever's above is rotten.

Can I come over for turkey tomorrow? It sounds sooooo good :hungry: !

Poor Grampa. I feel his pain. I cut my finger this afternoon and I keep banging it on things. So I have a leaky roof and a sore finger too. :hug:

DD is complaining that someone turns on the washer or starts doing dishes or something every time she gets in the shower. She usually takes her shower sometime in the evening, so it's not surprising. But she wants me to notice when she's taking a shower and not use the water. I told her she had it backwards -- her problem, she can jolly well tell me she's taking a shower and I will gladly not use the water. She's still arguing about it. Irrationality reigns.

Kiwi

He won't notice, Peach. He's a male. I'm sending DH down there to vacuum your carpet. He seems to be able to do that.

I remember pickled relatives. I miss that. Occasionally there are pickled rels at my family's in NC, but they are less amusing because they are more likely to be my husband. Or me :cheers: or another of my generation. It was fun when it was uncles and dads and the occasional tipsy aunt.

What is one step down from a stripper? Never mind. I don't think I want to know.

I have to go stuff some onions. I have had a very frustrating day. It's 9 PM and I've barely scratched the surface of my meager :thanks1: offerings.

Later.

Kiwi

P.S. the whole sugar thing -- maybe that's why birthdays and christmas are so depressing!

1. one step down from a stripper (actually lots of steps) = thief

2. I bought Ds a table at Wmart to use for a desk in his room. Think he won't notice that? It's possible.

3. I have the vacuum out.

4. I will enjoy the friends' friends because I have a new view of pickled people at the table. They drink and drink. They are from New Orleans. Apparently, other than losing some major stuff in Mississippi, they're ok. The National Guard camped on their land in Mississippi so what the storm didn't take, no one took.

5. If Kiwi and Sugar were separated at birth, then Sugar is really a Yankee?

6.Where is Bagz? It's not her holiday. No excuse.

gawwwwwwwwwwwd i am here---you people are just soooooooo talkative lately it takes me ages to catch up!!you are making me want a salt water turkey---i did laugh OUT loud when wabby said she wanted to slam her head in the door to make everyone happy!!! haaaaaaaaa------my niece who works for me most days was away today as her grandmother died -----not my mother of course----anyway--i was stuck working ALL the effin live long day---i even had ds11 in the shop helping me----no customers of course but i have to finish the damn decorating---- I WISH I WAS IN THE STATES FOR THE FRIDAY SHOPPING---I KNOW IT'S CRAZY DOWN THERE THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING!!!! i hope youse have a ball tomorrow stuffing your big cow faces---speaking of my large apron gut with several pockets----can anyone recommend a thread around here where i could find out how to loose some weight before christmas----and how do you totally give up sugar---i need a little in my morning coffee-----DO YOU HAVE TO GO COLD TURKEY---how do you do it???

Originally Posted by Kiwonk:
See, Sugar? did you get my email? We were separated at birth.

Got it! We're twins! :carrot: (oops, how'd that get in there? looks like a good candidate for a veggie platter)

I would seriously like to try giving up sugar but I don't know if I could do it since I tend to stuff things in my mouth without even thinking about it.

One of the few things I did today was vacuum. I had that graduate student coming in the morning for tutoring so I HAD to tidy up at least a bit. Poor thing - she got back from a vacation in China a few days ago, and on her first day back at work at the university she left her office for half an hour and some guy came in and stole her laptop AND her bag with money, bank card, ID card, car papers, keys etc. She was really upset, especially when she saw her laptop up for auction at eBay the next day! She tried to bid on it and buy it back from the guy, but he got suspicious and didn't go through with the auction. And the police say they can't do anything because of lack of evidence. Huh? She found out the guy's name and address and has the serial number for her laptop and hard drive, but they still won't get a search warrant. Great.

Other than that, I have developed a REALLY bad habit of going to bed somewhere between midnight and 1 a.m. even when I have to get up at 6:30 the next morning. I need to break the cycle and be normal again.

My voice must be heard-although I am in pain ..don't ask: A cooking episode...(what the h*LL- ?? The bold/Italiac/etal is Gooone! How can I express myself? EMOTE if U will..without THEM!!!!) I Can't go on... I will check back later.. hopefully full Functionality will return to the site... I can't say the same for my breastissI (is that the singular expression for breast Kiwi??) OKAY MY BOOB or BOOBI!...Dangling,pendulous breasts are fire hazards.

Schatzi!! What?? You burned your boob???? What happened? Is it going to be OK?

We had SNOW. I'm not sure I like it yet.

Why is the reply box this weird grey colour? And why is there a smiley drop down menu (see? I can talk like a geek) when they're still on the side anyway?

This is awful!!! Shots' boobi has been injured. And the story about Sugar's grad student is awful as well. How terrible to be violated and helpless. How do police do things in Germany? Serial numbers mean nothing?

Originally Posted by SugP:
Got it! We're twins!.....

I'm confused though, how did you manage to be so much younger than me?

Originally Posted by SugP:
Other than that, I have developed a REALLY bad habit of going to bed somewhere between midnight and 1 a.m. even when I have to get up at 6:30 the next morning. I need to break the cycle and be normal again.

Be careful, it's a vicious cycle. I haven't managed to break it after years of sleeping 4-5 hours at night and 2-3 hours in the daytime (which has become much harder with DH home and Jet to take care of)

Oh good grief, Schatzi, what have you done? Or maybe I don't want to know! Hope you feel much better soon.

The 3fc's say that you may need to do a hard refresh (F5) to get everything functional. Or maybe those things aren't working yet, not sure.

Oh Cool -- You Can Do A Quickie Edit -- Try It -- Hit Edit On Your Post.

That smilie drop down seems totally redundant, though.

There's a switch editor mode over in the upper right corner that looks interesting. Must try later when I have time. Gotta go now and sell Christmas ornaments for music boosters.

Nice work Kiwi. Where is YOUR blog?

I pulled the oven rack out to check on the sweet potatoes...pulled it out- reached a bit to grab the casserole dish- and sizzled a boob. Do you see the time???? I've been having such a spell of insomnia of late.. at least once a week I am up all night - I'll crash around 8 tonight...

I'm feeling very blobby fat. I would like to not have my belly fat lying on my thighs when I sit. Back to the diet tomorrow er today. And YAY for Cowie for doin a south beach type of eating. Use Splenda if ya can get it - you won't miss real sugar... and Whole wheat bread and pasta instead of the processed white flour ..and brown rice instead of white...Pretty much if it's White its Wrong. he hee.

Kiwi: YOU MAY HAVE A JOB IN SALES!!10 ornamentals?? Well done !

Sug: Oooh Snow.. I saw yer pics..quite picturesque and quaint..I can't believe that even though the student did all the investigative wokr the Police still won't do anything????

I hope Wabby caught her RATS and Grandpa Jim's fingers are better..what the heck Wabby...do you think Grandpa Jim is livin high on the hog since he thinks he won't be around to pay it all off so what the H*ll?

Bagzilla: RU Still decorating ????

Where is Lushie, Painty and Cherry...

I hate and despise sales. I sat there for 2 hours wishing I could go home. :lol: I'm so childish. Oh yeah, and ornaments, not ornamentals.

I also hate my blog so much I refuse to go there. Not really true, but the fact is I haven't written a word in many months. I suppose it is still findable by typing into Google "How to Build a House for Less". Actually I just looked and it's not. You'll have to type in How to Build a House in 425 Years or Less. :lol:

Sometimes I have to crawl under the desk and hang out with the dog while she eats the recycling.

I actually typed "log" instead of desk. I'm definitely losing it...

Kiwi

I can't find the blog and am pouting.

DS took a friend to a crafts fair in Dogpatch this morning. He said he'd take her to the book store after so I went there to wait. He knew I'd be there.

She's Asian. Lovely. They look wonderful together. They were looking at books outside and I went out and said, "HI!" She looked up and returned the "Hi" then eyes back to the books. DS whispered "That's my mom" and she looked up again, introduced herself and shook hands.

I could tell I wasn't needed.

Do watch "A La Mode." Wonderful happy movie about kids this age.

I can't find the blog and am pouting.

DS took a friend to a crafts fair in Dogpatch this morning. He said he'd take her to the book store after so I went there to wait. He knew I'd be there.

She's Asian. Lovely. They look wonderful together. They were looking at books outside and I went out and said, "HI!" She looked up and returned the "Hi" then eyes back to the books. DS whispered "That's my mom" and she looked up again, introduced herself and shook hands.

I could tell I wasn't needed.

Do watch "A La Mode." Wonderful happy movie about kids this age.

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