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redballoon 06-07-2005 07:46 PM

the sum of it all.........
 
Hi guys, feeling much better today. Got to the gym for the first time in ages. Walked there and back -- 50 mins each way -- just because I didn't feel like rushing there on the bike. I ate well yesterday too. don't know. Just hope I can continue this feeling.

jolly -- thanks for the life preserver. Maybe that is what helped me out yesterday. It was funny. I went to the gym yesterday thinking I had to find a new one. I said to myself, that if they had thrown my stuff out of my locker cause I hadn't renewed it, I would definitely quit. Well, the stuff wasn't touched. And also, I met a guy as I came in, an older guy who is always sweet and he remarked that he hadn't seen me in a while and that he'd been worried. Sweet of him. I told him I'd been busy and that on top of that I just didn't feel into it anymore, the going through the motions, the gung ho bodybuilders. The coach, who can be a great source of inspiration, but at the same time, can be a great annoyance. His entire life is bodybuilding. And I get increasingly pissed off when he chides me on not losing weight or not putting enough into my workout. But this older guy said, everyone feels the same. He has learned to just tune him out when necessary. He said, he didn't feel like getting stressed when his objective in coming to the gym was to destress. Then, I got talking to some other familiar faces and I realized that there are a lot of people like me there too and that they are sources of encouragement. I just have to learn to ignore the other ones, whose goals right now are different. So, I did my stuff, very light weights. I've decided I have too many other thing to be doing than expending all my energy in the gym. So, just saying, I'm hoping I can stay with this feeling. I lied when I said I didn't care about what I looked like, but I think I needed to say that in the face of what we so often encounter, people and society obsessed with appearance. I am SO much more than that. I am the sum of ALL parts and if someone tries to evaluate me on just one of those parts then I really can't let such idiocy get to me.

derry -- glad to hear from you but sorry you are feeling down. Look, you're not a failure, ok? We all go through slumps. There are reasons for this. It's natural. Life is all about cycles. Yes, getting back on track is one way of looking at it, but don't let the words get in the way of the actual picture. It's a cycle. You're not on or off. You're always on and sometimes it just feels like you're doing nothing. But you're not doing nothing! And you don't need us to monitor you. There's nothing wrong with eating. Anything. I'm afraid I could never do all the points and counting that I know you do. I would rebel something horrible. Maybe you need to loosen up, stop thinking of life as being on or off, on track, off track, on plan, off plan. Gosh, Linda, you're not even really heavy, not at all. I'm getting the feeling that you are just way too hard on yourself and that what you really need to do is start appreciating YOU. If you have to gain 50 lbs to do that, then maybe you should. Can you try to take your bodyweight out of the equation and start evaluating all the rest of you, the stuff that really matters. I think with me it wasn't until I got really busy that I realized I am doing damn well, because I know all the things I am juggling. The end result is seen by everyone, the cake out of the oven so to say, but only I know all the work, all the ingredients that went into that cake. YOU know what is going on in your life. Are the few extra pounds more important than handling what all you have to handle now? I don't think so. I'm not saying give up on your appearance. I'm saying, get it into a better perspective. Drop it on your priority list, perhaps.

Roxy -- After I get done saying all that to Derry, I come to your post and it's about points! :lol: But, we are all at different points in our weight dealings, aren't we? If you are happy doing this now and feel this is something you enjoy doing that will move you healthily toward your goals, go for it! Good luck, kid and keep up the good work! :yes:

Raven -- I hear you and I DO know what you'd been going through. I didn't mean to sound like I was green with envy or anything. I suppose I will get there...wherever that may be. I don't know if I'll ever have one specific thing to focus on like you do. I kind of think I won't. But, I do think the whole picture will start to get a little clearer. I can feel it now. I get down and stuff these days, but unlike earlier, I am so much more solid feeling somehow. It's like I know my strengths and the moods are just that, moods. Whereas they used to feel like strong ocean undercurrents, nowadays they just feel like waves and ripples on the surface, sometimes crashing, other times just whitecaps. But I can now always feel this strength that is me way under the surface and it feels really strong, like an unshakable force and one that has learned to allow me to look outward and to others more and more and in doing so, feel the connection with so many others.

momof2 -- welcome aboard. Glad to have you here and over on the challenge too! Good luck and post often, ok?

Apple -- don't worry about the pictures. You probably look tons better now! Good luck with the jogging! I am starting back to at the gym and it feels good. I have always preferred jogging to cycling. Something about feeling shaken up all over just feels good! :lol:


jollygirl 06-07-2005 07:53 PM

Hi again all. I just got back from a very nice ride. We went outside too. The first time we had a chance to this year.

I am feeling really good about the running. I had done this "10 weeks to your first 5k" program from Runner's World a few years ago. I ran two 5k races. Not fast, but it felt so good to complete this. I tried again a few different times and just couldn't - knee and ankle problems, etc. i have been taking glucosamine, and it feels really good to be doing it again. Amazing that I can get my body to do this.

I think you are right, Raven, about diet. I do need to increase protein. I could never be a vegetarian, but I don't eat as much protein as I should. I have made a commitment to decreasing how often I put carbs on my menus too. That is such a trigger for me, in that I don't follow portion sizes and I really overeat. So, here's to redoing my menus.

Have a great night all.

derrydaughter 06-08-2005 05:18 AM

Nice to see some new faces here. Hope I can offer some words of wisdom from time to time to help you out.
Raven, I appreciate what you said. I picture myself doing the same backslide thing that you did. I have no defense other than to say it's as if I am sabotaging myself. I know what I should be doing, but I just can't right now.
I must pick up the pieces and move on.
If I can't lose weight right now, I should at least try being healthy.
Linda

derrydaughter 06-08-2005 07:07 AM

back for another post this morning
 
OK, I have a new resolve today. On the spur of the moment, I decided to go back to the WW core plan for at least a week to see if maybe I might be more successful trying that approach, seeing as it's obvious that I am not doing something right or well with staying on the ww points plan.
Maybe my current emotional state is making it just too hard for me to keep track of what I eat and journal. I am hoping this new approach will be the thing to get me back on track? We'll see, but it can't hurt at least.

Linda

Roxymom 06-08-2005 10:05 AM

Hello - Another hot one here!

Good luck Linda with the Core plan. Hope it works for you.

Red - You got lots of exercise yesterday! 50 minutes each way to the gym! WOW! Good for you! Glad to hear you are feeling better.

Raven - Sounds like you are on the right track for the 5K. I'm proud of you! I could never do that. Keep up the good work!

I did better yesterday. Went over points by a couple but that is better than I have been doing. Today my goal is to say within my points. I also plan on walking for 30 minutes during lunch and then going to the gym after work. Had a muffin for breakfast. Brought a can of Progresso soup and some fresh strawberries for lunch. If I get hungry this afternoon I got a box of the snack size low fat popcorn packets I can make. Not sure about dinner yet.

Have a great day!

jollygirl 06-08-2005 10:24 AM

Good morning all. Even though I was running late today, I did 20 minutes of Precor, and 1 set of weights at the gym. I need to do better time managment in the mornings, so I can get more of a workout in. I was a bit discouraged, however, as I hopped on the scale and had gained???? And I had stuck to cereal for breakfast, even though I was craving carbs ( pondered making loaded hashbrowns or macaroni and cheese :( ) Ah well, that's what I get for getting on the scale more than just Mondays. Too depressing to see little ups and downs.

I want to get some nutrition books and a better log, to really track where I am overeating. The on line food charts just seem to take soooooo long. I don't have the patience. but I do know I need to cut back a bit on the dairy and grains, and up the meat and produce.

Good job everyone with getting moving in the right direction again. I know how hard it is. We can do this, and we deserve to do this.

derrydaughter 06-08-2005 10:34 AM

Thanks Roxy and Jolly.
For whatever reason (maybe it's enthusiasm for the core plan as a change of pace?) I feel so motivated today. That doesn't mean the entire day will go this way, but I am happy with today's choice and my new direction.
Maybe the old plan was too entrenched in past failures and boredom?
Sounds like you guys are really trying, great job.
It's 10:30 am and I am feeling pleased with my day so far... been up since 4:30 am, so the day is certainly well under way for me!
I was on the treadmill for 40 minutes and have stayed totally on the core program so far. I just finished a very early lunch/snack as I have a doctor's appointment at 12:15 kind of far away from here and have to leave soon. So, I will not be having my usual lunch at it's normal time. Hope the snack holds me until I can get home and have something else. Will bring a snack along in the car just in case for later.
Don't want to blow this by not being prepared.
Linda

RavenToy 06-08-2005 12:13 PM

Jolly - Cereal IS carbs. Try eggs? Or protein shakes? Yogurt? Though I tend to do oatmeal for breakfast, myself.... But on days when I know I'm going to be working hard, I make myself eat eggs for breakfast. Add lots of lean meats to your dinners and lunches. Do you like cottage cheese? Even peanut butter can be a surprisingly good snack, with good fat and high protein content. One of my favorite dinners is rotisserie chicken with a bunch of salad - I use the light ceasar dressing and just put it on the side. I'm having to get back into the more protein thing again too, so ... I feel your pain. It's not my favorite, either.

If you started lifting weights, I wouldn't be surprised if you gain. Stop looking at the scale!! Or look at it and then forget it. Watch your ratios, your calories, get your water in, and do your exercise. Those are the basics, right? If you get all those in line, you will get in shape. You will lose fat, and build muscle.

You know these things, chica.

Linda - Great to hear you're feeling a little more on the right path. Preparation is a big deal, so good for you!

Roxy - Sounds like you're doing well with your plan. :)

Today for me was abbreviated pilates. Was running short on time this morning - I'm like you Jolly, I need to manage my mornings better. I need to get to bed earlier, but that's so difficult for me - I want to spend time with my kids and boyfriend, and to do that, I end up staying up later than I should. Then getting up the next morning early enough to work out is very very hard. Of course, being tired all the time does absolutely nothing for my ability to work out well. And contrary to popular opinion, working out won't increase your energy level if you aren't getting enough sleep to begin with. :rolleyes: So - anyway, I did the back and tummy parts of pilates, and figured the legs weren't that important. I get a lot of legwork in already.

Tomorrow I'm going to get on the treadmill and see what kind of running I can do. I know these last couple weekends of hoof work have pretty much destroyed my running schedule. I'll just see where I'm at and go from there.

Water yesterday was just .. not. Every time I tried to drink water I'd literally just get sick to my stomach, sooooo... I didn't. This morning I was thirsty again, I drank water, and I was fine. Who knows. But I figured forcing water just to toss it back up again wasn't a good thing. As long as I'm ok today, I'll just let it go.

Food has been .. food. :shrug: Within caloric targets, uninspiring. *lol* Whatever. Why can't I be out working with horses? *starts chewing on arm*

jollygirl 06-08-2005 05:52 PM

Hey, y'all.

Raven, I am not in any way trying to do low carb. Just trying to get to the 6-11 servings per DAY the FDA recommends, vs 6-11 servings per MEAL. I did have a good lunch. I met a friend at Applebee's, and had the sizzling chicken skillet. Good seasonings. Yum. I need to get a better grip on serving sizes, and find some new reciipes to match.

Off to work soon, and want to pick out a new run route too. have a good one.

RavenToy 06-08-2005 08:10 PM

Jolly .. no, I know you're not trying to do low carb, you just said you were sticking to cereal even though you were craving carbs. Maybe I just misunderstood... *confused look*

Anyway.. I know you know all of that stuff anyway. I'm probably just typing because .. it's something to do with my fingers. :D

Personally I completely ignore the government. I find out what's right for me, not for the 'average' person, whatever that is.

jollygirl 06-09-2005 12:10 AM

I guess I was unclear. I was craving pasta or potatoes. Cereal has never been a big trigger for me. Who is going to binge on Bran Flakes, or whatever. The only cereal I am even tempted to eat more than a portion of is PB Cap'n Crunch, which I only allow myself to by once, maybe twice, a year.

Go ahead an give your fingers something to do. That's what they are there for :)

derrydaughter 06-09-2005 05:06 AM

Hmmm...talking about carbs when I just got up and haven't had a full cup of coffee yet makes me dizzy, almost. I'm a carb person, love them and I feel they are my downfall, sometimes. It's not that they are dangerous, in fact we all need them and they are good for us, but I have been eating the wrong carbs - especially lately.
I'm taking a long and serious look at what I've been shoving into my face these last few weeks and it's really very poor choices.
I did well yesterday, which was day 1 of my new regieme of being on the WW CORE plan. So, today will be day 2 and I hope to manage well. I think the best way to describe the CORE plan is nothing is processed food, all fresh and whole grain. No white sugar products, especially. Artificial sweeteners are ok.
So, last night instead of the frozen yogurt I've had lately, I have sugar free FF pudding, made with skim milk. I used one of my 35 flexpoints a week and put some lite cool whip on top. It was good.
Dinner was a 93% ff sirloin burger grilled. On the side was whole wheat pasta with diced tomatoes and FF feta cheese mixed in with it and also string beans, and I loaded up on them. I really enjoyed it.
Lunch was a chicken breast, no skin, with veggies and salad with FF mozarella cheese and lite rasberry pecan dressing (yummy) and for an afternoon snack I had 94% ff microwave popcorn. I also had a half banana at one point during the day and a few grapes. I drank all my water and that was an accomplishment as well. For breakfast, I had cream of wheat cerial with an orange and a small serving of FF/SF yogurt.
I don't know how many ww point that would have been and I felt kind of "free" as to not having to count my points. I didn't feel starving and out of control all day.
Not sure what that day will equate to as far as any kind of weight loss, but I did feel as if I was in control of myself and that I ate healthy.
Linda

jollygirl 06-09-2005 09:49 AM

Hi all. Good eating day, Derry.

I did my run this morning. I increased the distance by about a 1/2 mile. I want to keep increasing until I get between 3 -3.5 miles. The first run segment is always tough, then it gets better. I guess a body in motion really does stay in motion.

I love carbs too, Derry. Particularly pasta. My problem is that I just can't stay at one serving. Then, later, I sit there in a stupor saying "I can't believe I ate the whoooooole thing."

Well, off to work. Have a great day all.

RavenToy 06-09-2005 10:17 AM

>.>

<.<

Uhm. I didn't run this morning. Something came up.

^.^

*ahem* There are some interruptions to my regularly schedulded workouts I can deal with.

Linda - I don't know about WW and points and stuff.... but ... would you come cook for me? Please!? *beg* That food sounded scrumptuous! And healthy, too.

Jolly - :high: You go, girl! Good for you! I've always found the first run segment to be harder, too. As a matter of fact, anything before about the 20 minutes of movement is difficult. They say a 5 minute warmup. I seem to need more than that.

Mkay ... I seem to be getting more and more interested in more than just losing fat again. Ride the wave, yes? I am starting to want to eat RIGHT, not just in a good caloric range. My weight is holding at about 193, which is understandable. I told my daughter I don't lift weights, I lift horses. I looked at my upper body and the difference is major for the last three weeks. If this is the change after only doing a few horses, I'm reeeeeaaaaal curious to see what I'm going to look like doing 5-10 horses a DAY! :strong:

derrydaughter 06-09-2005 07:15 PM

Jolly, one thing you need to try out is whole wheat pasta, you might find you can eat less of it and it's more filling. At first I didn't like it, but now I love it. I used canned diced tomatoes last night over top of the pasta and it was pretty good with the ff feta cheese mixed in. I'd love to come cook for you guys, too bad I live so far away.
By the way, wouldn't it be nice to have a personal chef. Have y'all ever heard of Rosie, the chef who Oprah W. "stole" from a fancy health spa she want to. She loved the food and the cooking so much, she made an offer to this woman and hired her as her personal chef. Imagine being that wealthy to just hire someone like that? Oh well. Actually I do enjoy my own cooking, but would love the luxury of hiring a personal trainer as well as someone to CLEAN. I hate cleaing. Oh well, maybe I'll win the lottery some day?
I did ok all day today, I used one of my flex points and ate a low carb pita with my sliced deli roast beef at lunch. I also had vegetable soup. I wasn't craving sweets and cookies after lunch today and I was really happy about that feeling.
Breakfast was oatmeal, skim milk and brown sugar substitute as well as a pear. Mid morning I had a banana, no sugary snacks! Tonight was a small slice of ham, baked potato and olive oil margarine and peas. I have not been starving all afternoon as I usually am and running to the cabinet freaking out looking for snacks. I feel satisfied, which is unusual. I like feeling this way!
Dessert will be sugar free vanilla pudding made with skim milk and a dollap of lite cool whip over top and maybe a sprinkle of nutmeg on top.
Day 2 was a good day!
Let's report on what we've been eating, maybe that will help?
Linda


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