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jollygirl 06-01-2005 05:57 PM

Back to Basics - Everybody "June" in!
 
OK. so I do realize I am not as funny as I think I am. I shouldn't quit my day job for the comedy circuit. Or maybe . . . .

So. My goal for June is to lose an average of 2 pounds a week - or 8 pounds for the month. I want to exercise daily, and do weights 3 times a week. ( I also have a side goal of staying closer to my budget. I have not been doing so hot!)

So here's to all of us for June. Have a wonderful month!

:wave:

RavenToy 06-02-2005 09:54 AM

Hey Jolly - Your goals are good ones. I can join you on both of them.

Not sure what's going on with me. Feeling very cagey today. I know I'm frustrated with the job/work thing. Frustrated with money. Want things on the business front to move faster than they're moving. It's the 'wanting to chew my arm off to get out of here' feeling. Weight is WAY up today, and I know it can't be calories, so it's probably sodium. Money has been extremely tight this week, so food has been cheap-cheap. Not cool. *sigh* Thank goodness payday is tomorrow.

*throws herself against the bars of her cage*

jollygirl 06-02-2005 10:09 AM

I understand, Raven - the eternal struggle. The less money you have, the more you want to spend. At least I do. When money is tight, that is when I see that I am spending more on junk - just to prove I can, I guess.

I am also in a bit of a funk right now. Dealing with the whole low self esteem thing. If I do one thing wrong, it makes me a bad person. Yadda yadda yadda. I have to learn to learn from things, without taking it so darn personally. Or maybe skip the "learning" part, and just find good drugs. Skip the counseling. the weird dreams I have been having would send the shrink to the couch.

Well, I did my running this morning. Hurray for that. The first set is always slow and difficult, but then it eases up. I hope to do a 5k this year.

Have a good day!

Roxymom 06-02-2005 10:56 AM

Good Morning! I have been posting on the Back to Basics weekly posts and noticed this monthly one. Maybe this is where everyone went. Not many posting on the other one anymore. Hope it's ok to post here with you.

RavenToy 06-02-2005 12:13 PM

Welcome, Roxy! :) I'm not sure if we're the same bunch, but you are certainly more than welcome to join us!

Jolly - I've actually been doing better than usual with that kneejerk reaction to being broke. I've been really trying to focus on NOT spending money. It's just that the food I can buy with the little money I have is not the healthiest, you know? That depresses me. BUT like I said, payday is tomorrow, and though I'm certainly not rich, I'll be able to buy the right foods again. What I'm really agonizing about on the money front is that I desperately want to get more training on the hoof care, and I just can't afford it. The folks I trimmed for last weekend were all really happy with my work, and the gal in FL is having her other emergency trimmer come out and take a look at my work, to see what he thinks. A little nerve wracking, that. Sort of like you... if I'm not doing it perfectly.... you know? I just have to take a deep breath and remind myself I've only been doing it for about a year. I have a lot to learn, BUT I do know a lot. I just need more experience.

I did forget to mention my workout this morning. I did do that... such as it was. It was the Murphy's Law workout. Everything that could go wrong did, but .. I know I got at least a decent 20 minutes plus of either walking quickly or running in.

Water is good so far for the day. Food is .. calorie-wise, fine. *shrug* Tomorrow will be better. My fingers feel all poofy and so do my ankles.

Apple Blossom 06-02-2005 01:09 PM

Hi everyone! I am back from a week long vacation back east. We were in NJ mostly, and the Philadelphia area. We also went out to Gettysburg. It was nice to be east again. There are so many differences. Especially pizzerias and delis. Man, even bad pizza back east is better than the pizza here. There are exceptions of course, but you have to look hard and eat a lot of bad pizza along the way. And it's VERY hard to find a place that sells by the slice. :jeno: :jeno: :jeno: :jeno:
Believe it or not I did not gain any weight while I was gone. I was truly amazed when I got on the scale this morning.
My goal for the month is 5 pounds and I really need to pick up the exercise.
I might not be posting daily but I'll be around. Have a great day!

jollygirl 06-02-2005 05:48 PM

Hi all. Food did pretty well today. Also dealing with the work stress alright. No complaints. NO worries.

Welcome Roxy. Congrats on surviving vacation, Apple. Where are you from originally? Vacation sounds sooooo nice, but between time and money, it ain't gonna happen. Raven, glad you are doing better. Have you looked into whether there would be any grants, scholarships, student loans for trade school??? Then maybe you could afford to do the trainings faster. Just a thought.

Have a good one everyone.

Roxymom 06-03-2005 09:44 AM

Good Morning!

I went to the gym last night after work and did my normal routine. Thought I was going to die before I finished. Just wasn't into it. I made it through though. My goal for June is to loose 5 pounds. I still need to work on journaling. I do good at the beginning of the day and then just forget. Also need to drink more water.

Have a good day and a great weekend!

RavenToy 06-03-2005 12:33 PM

Apple - Welcome back!! Sounds like you had a good trip! I should have had you freeze me some pizza and send it in the mail... :o Sounds delicious.

Jolly - Keep on truckin' chickie. I haven't got the time to look into grants and stuff. Need to find someone who knows all the ins and outs of that. I'm far too busy trying to make this happen to spend hours LOOKING for stuff. Sad but true.

Roxy - I know what you mean... some days I just don't 'got it' you know? Sounds like you're on the right track! Water, food, exercise!

Ok I finally blew up last night and ordered chinese food. I did pretty good, got mu shu chicken, but ... SODIUM CITY! I feel like the michellen man (sp).

Then I stayed up till 2 this morning trying to get more content onto my website. So .. needless to say this morning I did NOT get up in time to work out. Today was payday, so I went out at lunch and got healthy stuff for work again. I feel secure again. I HATE not having good food to eat while I'm here.

Ok, back to work. Happy FRIDAY people!!!! :D

jollygirl 06-03-2005 07:01 PM

Hi all.

Financial security??? I am about ready to have to turn in my change jar.

I did go work out this morning, and managed to do weights. One day down. woohoo.

Of course, I have a similar problem, Roxy. I eat well at the beginning of the day, but by the end of the day, it is all downhill. I ate well today, then came home and made a huge pot of chicken noodle casserole. I am so overstuffed right now. How stupid! I need to figure out how not to self medicate at night.


Have a great weekend all.

redballoon 06-04-2005 08:10 PM

jolly, can it be that you're not eating enough during the day? It sounds like you may be so hungry that you come home and overeat. I have found that if I don't eat good food and then have even a little bit of sugar or something, I fall off the deep end. If I instead force myself to have carrots or celery or an apple, I can hold until I get a filling meal, and that stays with me. The good meal feels like way too much but in the end I don't eat all the junk, so the end calorie count is much lower. Now....if I can just remember my own advice..........

RavenToy 06-05-2005 07:22 AM

Hard to post on a regular basis when I'm working a full time 'day job' AND trying to start a business on the side. I went down to Macon yesterday to trim a friend's horse. While I was there I picked up another trim which will now be on a 4 week schedule. Then the barn owner came out, asked how much I charge, and could I please come back and take care of 6 of her horses? I had to think about that for about oh .. a split second. She rehabs off the track thoroughbreds and wants to keep them barefoot! I told her it's time consuming, but it can certainly be done! She said ok, lets do it! I love that kind of attitude.

So, off today to go trim! I almost have two weeks up to the low '7 horses per week to pay board' mark. That was my first goal. Two more weeks and I'll have that. Next goal will be to get to between 20-30 horses a week so I can quit my job at the office.

I need to buy some sunblock. *blink*

I think my weight is going to start dropping a LOT if I do this for a living. Which, I have to admit, was one of the reasons it was attractive to me. A workout disguised as fun plus I get paid for doing it. D'uh!?

jollygirl 06-05-2005 08:33 AM

Congrats on the new business, Raven. I am so happy for you. Red, no, it is not that I am not eating enough during the day. I eat plenty. It is more a psychological thing at night. What better way to unwind after a long day then to eat, right?

Well, I woke up this morning sore from wrestling my air conditioners upstairs, and still a bit congested, so I didn't run. But (drumroll please) I did throw in my yoga tape and do that. I realized how unflexible I have become. I need to try to do that twice a week. But right now i am just glad I got a workout in. Of course, I also have a dog in a snit. I told them to go lay down and leave me alone while I did the tape, or I would have to lock them up. My girl was ok, though by the last prone pose, she had enough, and came and laid down right next to me. My boy was mad that I told him to go away. Still in a snit as I type. Funny.

OK. OH yeah, a NSV to report. I came home from work early yesterday due to being all stuffed up. I did not dig into the food. I finished cleaning, did my nails, and had 1 sugar free fudgsicle. Not bad, since before i left I was fantasizing about stopping for chips and dip, or throwing in a pizza.

Well, off to breakfast, church, and work. Have a great day all.

Apple Blossom 06-05-2005 01:03 PM

Jolly, my dogs do the same thing. As soon as I'm down on the floor to do some exercises they think it's play time or petting time and either I try to work around them or thow them out. I could not do yoga with a dog in my face...
I am originally from NY. I moved out to California in my late 20's. I miss the east alot, but I'm happy here too.
I haven't made any behavioral changes since my last post. 5 pounds might be an unreasonable goal. Actually, time based goals don't seem to work for me. I think I'll just stick to getting an exercise program going on a regular basis.
Hope everyone's having a great week-end!!!

jollygirl 06-05-2005 10:17 PM

It was pretty funny, Apple. They always think that floor time equals play time, and boy were Bubba's feelings hurt:rofl:

So, another NSV to report. I came home from work and did not eat. It was a tough battle, but at least I did it.

Here's to a great week for all of us.

RavenToy 06-06-2005 08:56 AM

Jolly - Thank you! Lets just hope it keeps building at this rate, and if the work doesn't kill me before I'm used to it, I'll be doing great! Congrats on resisting the call of the munchies. I know how hard that is.

Apple - I set a goal, then just see what happens. I mean .. like my scale goal for last month was to lose ten pounds. I lost eight. I consider that a win. :) But I have other goals that I shoot for - water intake, calorie intake, exercise. I don't always meet them, but I just keep them in mind. It's not a pass/fail - it's something to shoot for. If you fall a little short, you're still doing better than if you hadn't done anything at all!

Two horses on Saturday, five Sunday. My hands are sore. One of them was sure 'nuff determined to kick me off that rear hoof, yep. So my shoulders are a little sore, too. But he didn't get me. ;) Eve was great training. I'm a little more sunburned, even with the sunblock. I kept TRYING to drink enough water to keep up with the sweating. Muscle building is warring with dehydration... very hard to tell how much I weigh. So... who cares. I know my jeans are fitting again straight out of the dryer. I know I feel stronger, more flexible, better. I'm going to need to tighten up the belt on my chaps again. :D

I need to find foods I can take with me out in a pasture... maybe pick up a little cooler for ice.

In four weeks, that 7 horses over two days goes up to 9 horses in one day. One week goal achieved. Nothing scheduled for this weekend... that's good and bad. I haven't had a 'day off' in three weeks. My house is a disaster. I knew this would happen, so ... it's just a part of the transitioning.

Ok .. back to work, off to drink water... back to the 'office job.' Bleh.

jollygirl 06-06-2005 09:48 AM

Good morning all. I am feeling pretty good today, for payroll MOnday. I resisted food again last night after work. And, I did do weights this morning. I am not doing a lot yet, but am trying to get into the routine of doing them. I figure then I can increase weight and reps, and eventually work with a personal trainer to design a more specific routine. After the habit is set.

So all in all, I feel good. Eating choices are improving, even if they aren't perfect yet. And I lost 1.9 pounds this week. A win all around.

Have a great day all.

Roxymom 06-06-2005 10:32 AM

Good Morning!

Jolly - sounds like we are alot a like with the eating when we get home. It's not because I'm hungry. I just do it. I need to control it more. Went to the store and bought apples, strawberries and cantalope. If I grab something tonight, I'll be ready!

Today is my Mom's 79th birthday and I'm taking her out to lunch. I told her it was her choice. I hope it's someplace that I can stay within my points. As, I can relate to feeling like the Michelin Man today. I'm so bloated and have cramps soo bad. Not sure if the exercise will be happening today. I will try to get a walk in with the dogs tonight.

Raven - Sounds like you business is getting a great start. Good Luck!

Kathy

jollygirl 06-06-2005 11:27 AM

Good luck with dinner, Kathy. I hope you have a nice time, and stay within points.

I just need to ramble right now. I am craving junk food sooooooo bad. And I am coming up with perfectly logical reasons why I "must" go to the store right now, or worse, why I "deserve" a little treat. Sometimes it is just so hard to keep the end goal in mind. I want to eat! I don't care, I don't care, I don't care.

But I do care. I don't want to look like this. I feel fatter now, since gaining 15 of the 35 I lost last year then I did at my highest. It is all psychological I know. I want to be healthy. I want to be more flexible and athletic. And most of all, I don't want to make excuses for myself. Unfortunately, I can't do my nails at work to keep me from food. I do have plenty of work to keep me busy, but it is the sort of work I usually self medicate or try to run from. Boring paperwork. Sigh.

If anyone sees my motivation, please have her send me a postcard at least. That might be enough to get me through the cravings until she comes home.

RavenToy 06-06-2005 11:48 AM

Ok Jolly - Talk yourself into the right frame of mind! You've already gotten a great start! What do you want? Really want? That food? Is it really going to taste that good? Will you feel good after you finish it? It's NOT going to taste that great. Chances are, you won't even taste most of it. And when you've finished..... well, you know how you'll feel about it.

Be proud of yourself, proud of eating your fruits and veggies and just tell yourself over and over and over that junk food really sucks. It tastes nasty, it makes you feel nasty, it contributes to weight gain. It's GROSS!!

Roxymom 06-06-2005 02:23 PM

You can do it Jolly! We are here for you but I know it's hard when you are sitting there by yourself. Like Raven says, keep talking yourself out of it. Try chewing a stick of gum. Sometimes that helps me. Hang in there!

Kathy

jollygirl 06-06-2005 05:46 PM

Thanks everyone for the support. I got through it by eating lunch early. That took care of the hunger. I am doing bills now, so that helps me not want to spend $. It doesn't help that I have been PMSing for a month. Can't wait until I can talk to the doctor about this one.

Have a great evening, everyone, and thanks again for the help.

redballoon 06-07-2005 12:58 AM

...and jolly makes two of us.....
 
Heh guys, trying to come up with a post. Am so far behind though, so it's either just a little bit or nothing. I am in the same frame of mind as jolly I think and it's not good. I have probably been in a slow downslide since last fall. I have lost tons of muscle and so now, even though I am eating less than before, I keep gaining fat. I feel tired, lethargic and just more or less not really wanting to do anything. The gym is a big turnoff, whereas before I used to like doing it. I don't know. It got so crowded and I got sick of the gungho bodybuilders, so hung up on muscles and dieting. Whereas before I liked seeing the familiar faces, now I'm bothered by the fact that they are just like always there and I struggle to get to the gym for lack of time, when lack of motivation or energy. To tell your the truth, I really don't care that much about how I look. I mean, it's not a priority, though of course I would love to look great, I more just want to feel healthy and strong I suppose. The gym people seem so hung up on appearance, bodybuilders and aerobic anorexics alike. I am thinking of finding another gym, yet again, somewhere where people are serious but not fanatical. I will just have to try to get out there and plug along I think. I am trying to get away from this whole perfectionist idea, just enjoy things more. It's hard though. So many people are sooooo into appearance it seems here in Tokyo, and I don't just mean for socializing, I mean as work and for work and for getting the recognition you need in order to find work.

Raven -- I am loving what I am reading in your posts. The work coming your way! At last! And yes, you will lose weight, not that I think this is even going to be a priority any more for you. But, if you don't eat garbage, you will undoubtedly be getting leaner and stronger. I'm really glad this is happening for you. I am jealous and depressed actually by it in some ways, because I can't see anything similar happening to me. I don't even know what I want, that is the big problem.

Apple, how is your exercise program going? Did you get anything thought out yet?

jolly -- as I said above, I'm in the deep end floundering a bit like you. That said, you sound like you are still doing a lot even though you say you have no motivation. All those saves as well and handling the not eating at night. You're doing a lot better than me by the sounds of it.

Roxy -- hello there. Welcome aboard. How did your mom's birthday go? I hope you had fun. Hope you're feeling better.

jollygirl 06-07-2005 06:49 AM

Good morning all. Thanks Red. I do realize I am doing better overall. It is just times like yesterday, when all the food cravings come rushing back. And I can just hear those internal voices trying to "help" me get to the food. I did overcome it. Really, the only thing I can regret is that I did have some chips when I got home from work last night, but I was actually hungry. Stomach growling hungry, not bored/tired/upset hungry. I should have grabbed something healthier. Oh well.

I did my run this morning. 5 blocks jogging and 2 blocks walking. Felt good, even though i am still coughing up stuff. I have such a good little personal trainer. If only she didn't stop dead in front of me any time she found some tasty little garbage. Of course, I do get good sprints in when she sees rabbit or squirrel :rofl:

Red, I am tossing you a life preserver, to help you out of the deep end. Seriously though. It is so hard when you are floundering. When you can see where you want to be, but all the old habits seem to be dragging you down. I don't know how to drop them off for good. But my thoughts are with you. Good luck finding a different gym.

Take care all, and have a good day.

derrydaughter 06-07-2005 07:16 AM

Thanks for the link to the new thread, guys. I'm feeling really blue. The scale is up, I've not been visiting here and have skipped my ww meetings. I feel like a complete and utter failure and hope to get back on track, yet again.
I did pull out my journal and write down breakfast today. I'm not giving up but I am totally bummed out.
I wish I had you all right here at my house (not just on the computer) to follow me around and caution me every time I put something in my mouth....
Wonder if people could be hired to do "weight loss shadowing".... only kidding, but I feel like I need my own personal monitor here.
Linda

Roxymom 06-07-2005 09:53 AM

Good Morning all!

Sounds like we are all having the same problem. I didn't do too bad yesterday. Lunch with my Mom was at her favorite Mexican restaurant. I had a taco salad and didn't eat it all. I also had a small piece of birthday cake. Just used some of my weekly allowance points. Now I really have to be good this week.

Jolly - glad you made it through the day!

I'm feeling a little better today but still have those darn cramps. Good thing is it makes me not want to eat!

Have a good day.

Kathy

RavenToy 06-07-2005 10:28 AM

Heyas Chicks..

All of you.. Red, Jolly, Derry, Apple - For those of you who have been here for a while, you know I went into a massive backslide last year. I gained back 30 pounds, lost virtually all my muscle that I'd worked SO hard to build, stopped running... turned into a total sloth. I suppose there were 'reasons' it happened. But it truly bothers me that when life gets hard, I resort to hiding behind food and the TV in an attempt to escape. Or when life gets threatening to me because I'm not invisible anymore. These are things I'm facing THIS time around.

Red - I'm 45 years old and I'm finally just now figuring out what I want to do with my life, and being either stupid enough or brave enough (depending on my mood at the moment) to pursue it. It's terrifying, but exhilarating. I've never been so exposed, if you will. All my mistakes, my knowledge, my skills (or lack thereof) - right out there for everyone to see. I can't hide anymore, and it's been very, very good for me. During that 'down' time, I'd watch people here having such great successes and making goals and I'd feel so dejected. I wanted to do it. I knew what to do. I just couldn't seem to get there. I guess I really needed a reason. I mean a tangible, put my hands on it, physical reason. Looking better, feeling better, being healthy - wasn't enough. Sadly, even doing it as an example for my kids was not enough. I needed to do it for me, and even doing it for me, I needed a WHY. I'm built that way. So are my kids, darnit. I think that's why I needed a job, and I knew it, in which I was working with my body, my hands - and my brain. It's all coming together now. But I've been agonizing about this for about 4 years. I knew I needed more in my life, and it found me, I didn't find it. I was just open to it when it hit, that's all. Like I said... it's scary. It's all on me now, you know?

Jolly - Good for you for finding a solution to the hungries! We're all a puzzle. We need to be flexible, because our needs will change daily, just about. I find that when I start lifting (and I thought I was some sort of freak till I realize this is actually VERY normal and just about everyone goes through it) I was HUNGRY! I mean .. like .. chew the table leg off hungry. I had to start working harder at watching the nutrition content of my food. I needed much more protein than I was used to eating. I needed higher fat levels - but I couldn't drop my carbs too low, or I'd start getting sick to my stomach and weak. Your body might be telling you that you NEED better food. But I'm not sure what you're eating, so ... I'm just spouting off stuff. Feel free to ignore at will. :D

Linda - Been there. Probably will be there again, though god bless it I hope it's not soon. Please, whatever you do, don't beat yourself up over this. That won't help. Crappy feelings just beget more crappy feelings. Positive thoughts beget positive thoughts. And what I've found is that the thoughts usually result, ultimately, in positive actions. It may take some time, though. And don't expect total adherence or consistency when you're trying to get back on track, just do the best you can. Really.. the best. That's all you can do. And sometimes the best isn't going to be that great. But it will be what you can do. And then - hopefully soon - your best will be fantastic. *warm hug*

momof2r's 06-07-2005 10:59 AM

Hi all, I am new to the site and hope you don't mind my posting. I can relate to everything you guys are talking about. I know how finances can truly affect the dieting front it seems like all of the good for you food is so expensive! Jollygirl I read you are going to try to run a 5k this year and I am trying to train to do the same. Right now I am just walking six days a week and trying to lift weights three days a week but hop to work up to running soon. I have a sister who runs marathons and I want to run a 5k with her I know it will be very easy for her but she is willing to run with me for support. I am looking forward to hearing when you reach your goal. Well anyway I hope it is okay for me to jump in on your site and I look forward to hearing how things are going for everyone.

Apple Blossom 06-07-2005 02:37 PM

Just a quick hey and hang in there everybody!
No exercise plan really, just a daily walk and some sit ups. Next week school will be out and I want to start some jogging, just adding it to my walk gradually so my knees can get used to it.
Hate to bring it up but a friend of mine gave me a few pictures of me and my daughter from 2 years ago and YUCK. I hope I look a little better than that now......
Hi momof2r's....I'd love to run a 5k too....on another thread someone challenged herself to run a 5K every month for a year. If my knees agree to that I'm going to try it, but I won't make that decision for another month or so. I need to get moving first. How did you come up with your user name?

Roxymom 06-07-2005 03:44 PM

Welcome momof2r's!

I could never run. My knees would give out. I do get on the eliptical machine at the gym. Plan on doing 30 minutes on it tonight after work.

redballoon 06-07-2005 07:46 PM

the sum of it all.........
 
Hi guys, feeling much better today. Got to the gym for the first time in ages. Walked there and back -- 50 mins each way -- just because I didn't feel like rushing there on the bike. I ate well yesterday too. don't know. Just hope I can continue this feeling.

jolly -- thanks for the life preserver. Maybe that is what helped me out yesterday. It was funny. I went to the gym yesterday thinking I had to find a new one. I said to myself, that if they had thrown my stuff out of my locker cause I hadn't renewed it, I would definitely quit. Well, the stuff wasn't touched. And also, I met a guy as I came in, an older guy who is always sweet and he remarked that he hadn't seen me in a while and that he'd been worried. Sweet of him. I told him I'd been busy and that on top of that I just didn't feel into it anymore, the going through the motions, the gung ho bodybuilders. The coach, who can be a great source of inspiration, but at the same time, can be a great annoyance. His entire life is bodybuilding. And I get increasingly pissed off when he chides me on not losing weight or not putting enough into my workout. But this older guy said, everyone feels the same. He has learned to just tune him out when necessary. He said, he didn't feel like getting stressed when his objective in coming to the gym was to destress. Then, I got talking to some other familiar faces and I realized that there are a lot of people like me there too and that they are sources of encouragement. I just have to learn to ignore the other ones, whose goals right now are different. So, I did my stuff, very light weights. I've decided I have too many other thing to be doing than expending all my energy in the gym. So, just saying, I'm hoping I can stay with this feeling. I lied when I said I didn't care about what I looked like, but I think I needed to say that in the face of what we so often encounter, people and society obsessed with appearance. I am SO much more than that. I am the sum of ALL parts and if someone tries to evaluate me on just one of those parts then I really can't let such idiocy get to me.

derry -- glad to hear from you but sorry you are feeling down. Look, you're not a failure, ok? We all go through slumps. There are reasons for this. It's natural. Life is all about cycles. Yes, getting back on track is one way of looking at it, but don't let the words get in the way of the actual picture. It's a cycle. You're not on or off. You're always on and sometimes it just feels like you're doing nothing. But you're not doing nothing! And you don't need us to monitor you. There's nothing wrong with eating. Anything. I'm afraid I could never do all the points and counting that I know you do. I would rebel something horrible. Maybe you need to loosen up, stop thinking of life as being on or off, on track, off track, on plan, off plan. Gosh, Linda, you're not even really heavy, not at all. I'm getting the feeling that you are just way too hard on yourself and that what you really need to do is start appreciating YOU. If you have to gain 50 lbs to do that, then maybe you should. Can you try to take your bodyweight out of the equation and start evaluating all the rest of you, the stuff that really matters. I think with me it wasn't until I got really busy that I realized I am doing damn well, because I know all the things I am juggling. The end result is seen by everyone, the cake out of the oven so to say, but only I know all the work, all the ingredients that went into that cake. YOU know what is going on in your life. Are the few extra pounds more important than handling what all you have to handle now? I don't think so. I'm not saying give up on your appearance. I'm saying, get it into a better perspective. Drop it on your priority list, perhaps.

Roxy -- After I get done saying all that to Derry, I come to your post and it's about points! :lol: But, we are all at different points in our weight dealings, aren't we? If you are happy doing this now and feel this is something you enjoy doing that will move you healthily toward your goals, go for it! Good luck, kid and keep up the good work! :yes:

Raven -- I hear you and I DO know what you'd been going through. I didn't mean to sound like I was green with envy or anything. I suppose I will get there...wherever that may be. I don't know if I'll ever have one specific thing to focus on like you do. I kind of think I won't. But, I do think the whole picture will start to get a little clearer. I can feel it now. I get down and stuff these days, but unlike earlier, I am so much more solid feeling somehow. It's like I know my strengths and the moods are just that, moods. Whereas they used to feel like strong ocean undercurrents, nowadays they just feel like waves and ripples on the surface, sometimes crashing, other times just whitecaps. But I can now always feel this strength that is me way under the surface and it feels really strong, like an unshakable force and one that has learned to allow me to look outward and to others more and more and in doing so, feel the connection with so many others.

momof2 -- welcome aboard. Glad to have you here and over on the challenge too! Good luck and post often, ok?

Apple -- don't worry about the pictures. You probably look tons better now! Good luck with the jogging! I am starting back to at the gym and it feels good. I have always preferred jogging to cycling. Something about feeling shaken up all over just feels good! :lol:


jollygirl 06-07-2005 07:53 PM

Hi again all. I just got back from a very nice ride. We went outside too. The first time we had a chance to this year.

I am feeling really good about the running. I had done this "10 weeks to your first 5k" program from Runner's World a few years ago. I ran two 5k races. Not fast, but it felt so good to complete this. I tried again a few different times and just couldn't - knee and ankle problems, etc. i have been taking glucosamine, and it feels really good to be doing it again. Amazing that I can get my body to do this.

I think you are right, Raven, about diet. I do need to increase protein. I could never be a vegetarian, but I don't eat as much protein as I should. I have made a commitment to decreasing how often I put carbs on my menus too. That is such a trigger for me, in that I don't follow portion sizes and I really overeat. So, here's to redoing my menus.

Have a great night all.

derrydaughter 06-08-2005 05:18 AM

Nice to see some new faces here. Hope I can offer some words of wisdom from time to time to help you out.
Raven, I appreciate what you said. I picture myself doing the same backslide thing that you did. I have no defense other than to say it's as if I am sabotaging myself. I know what I should be doing, but I just can't right now.
I must pick up the pieces and move on.
If I can't lose weight right now, I should at least try being healthy.
Linda

derrydaughter 06-08-2005 07:07 AM

back for another post this morning
 
OK, I have a new resolve today. On the spur of the moment, I decided to go back to the WW core plan for at least a week to see if maybe I might be more successful trying that approach, seeing as it's obvious that I am not doing something right or well with staying on the ww points plan.
Maybe my current emotional state is making it just too hard for me to keep track of what I eat and journal. I am hoping this new approach will be the thing to get me back on track? We'll see, but it can't hurt at least.

Linda

Roxymom 06-08-2005 10:05 AM

Hello - Another hot one here!

Good luck Linda with the Core plan. Hope it works for you.

Red - You got lots of exercise yesterday! 50 minutes each way to the gym! WOW! Good for you! Glad to hear you are feeling better.

Raven - Sounds like you are on the right track for the 5K. I'm proud of you! I could never do that. Keep up the good work!

I did better yesterday. Went over points by a couple but that is better than I have been doing. Today my goal is to say within my points. I also plan on walking for 30 minutes during lunch and then going to the gym after work. Had a muffin for breakfast. Brought a can of Progresso soup and some fresh strawberries for lunch. If I get hungry this afternoon I got a box of the snack size low fat popcorn packets I can make. Not sure about dinner yet.

Have a great day!

jollygirl 06-08-2005 10:24 AM

Good morning all. Even though I was running late today, I did 20 minutes of Precor, and 1 set of weights at the gym. I need to do better time managment in the mornings, so I can get more of a workout in. I was a bit discouraged, however, as I hopped on the scale and had gained???? And I had stuck to cereal for breakfast, even though I was craving carbs ( pondered making loaded hashbrowns or macaroni and cheese :( ) Ah well, that's what I get for getting on the scale more than just Mondays. Too depressing to see little ups and downs.

I want to get some nutrition books and a better log, to really track where I am overeating. The on line food charts just seem to take soooooo long. I don't have the patience. but I do know I need to cut back a bit on the dairy and grains, and up the meat and produce.

Good job everyone with getting moving in the right direction again. I know how hard it is. We can do this, and we deserve to do this.

derrydaughter 06-08-2005 10:34 AM

Thanks Roxy and Jolly.
For whatever reason (maybe it's enthusiasm for the core plan as a change of pace?) I feel so motivated today. That doesn't mean the entire day will go this way, but I am happy with today's choice and my new direction.
Maybe the old plan was too entrenched in past failures and boredom?
Sounds like you guys are really trying, great job.
It's 10:30 am and I am feeling pleased with my day so far... been up since 4:30 am, so the day is certainly well under way for me!
I was on the treadmill for 40 minutes and have stayed totally on the core program so far. I just finished a very early lunch/snack as I have a doctor's appointment at 12:15 kind of far away from here and have to leave soon. So, I will not be having my usual lunch at it's normal time. Hope the snack holds me until I can get home and have something else. Will bring a snack along in the car just in case for later.
Don't want to blow this by not being prepared.
Linda

RavenToy 06-08-2005 12:13 PM

Jolly - Cereal IS carbs. Try eggs? Or protein shakes? Yogurt? Though I tend to do oatmeal for breakfast, myself.... But on days when I know I'm going to be working hard, I make myself eat eggs for breakfast. Add lots of lean meats to your dinners and lunches. Do you like cottage cheese? Even peanut butter can be a surprisingly good snack, with good fat and high protein content. One of my favorite dinners is rotisserie chicken with a bunch of salad - I use the light ceasar dressing and just put it on the side. I'm having to get back into the more protein thing again too, so ... I feel your pain. It's not my favorite, either.

If you started lifting weights, I wouldn't be surprised if you gain. Stop looking at the scale!! Or look at it and then forget it. Watch your ratios, your calories, get your water in, and do your exercise. Those are the basics, right? If you get all those in line, you will get in shape. You will lose fat, and build muscle.

You know these things, chica.

Linda - Great to hear you're feeling a little more on the right path. Preparation is a big deal, so good for you!

Roxy - Sounds like you're doing well with your plan. :)

Today for me was abbreviated pilates. Was running short on time this morning - I'm like you Jolly, I need to manage my mornings better. I need to get to bed earlier, but that's so difficult for me - I want to spend time with my kids and boyfriend, and to do that, I end up staying up later than I should. Then getting up the next morning early enough to work out is very very hard. Of course, being tired all the time does absolutely nothing for my ability to work out well. And contrary to popular opinion, working out won't increase your energy level if you aren't getting enough sleep to begin with. :rolleyes: So - anyway, I did the back and tummy parts of pilates, and figured the legs weren't that important. I get a lot of legwork in already.

Tomorrow I'm going to get on the treadmill and see what kind of running I can do. I know these last couple weekends of hoof work have pretty much destroyed my running schedule. I'll just see where I'm at and go from there.

Water yesterday was just .. not. Every time I tried to drink water I'd literally just get sick to my stomach, sooooo... I didn't. This morning I was thirsty again, I drank water, and I was fine. Who knows. But I figured forcing water just to toss it back up again wasn't a good thing. As long as I'm ok today, I'll just let it go.

Food has been .. food. :shrug: Within caloric targets, uninspiring. *lol* Whatever. Why can't I be out working with horses? *starts chewing on arm*

jollygirl 06-08-2005 05:52 PM

Hey, y'all.

Raven, I am not in any way trying to do low carb. Just trying to get to the 6-11 servings per DAY the FDA recommends, vs 6-11 servings per MEAL. I did have a good lunch. I met a friend at Applebee's, and had the sizzling chicken skillet. Good seasonings. Yum. I need to get a better grip on serving sizes, and find some new reciipes to match.

Off to work soon, and want to pick out a new run route too. have a good one.

RavenToy 06-08-2005 08:10 PM

Jolly .. no, I know you're not trying to do low carb, you just said you were sticking to cereal even though you were craving carbs. Maybe I just misunderstood... *confused look*

Anyway.. I know you know all of that stuff anyway. I'm probably just typing because .. it's something to do with my fingers. :D

Personally I completely ignore the government. I find out what's right for me, not for the 'average' person, whatever that is.


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