Yep, I've read the 1st book, a couple times actually lol

I've been trying to read the supercharged, but I can't seem to get it from the library, it's always checked out GRRR! I put myself on the waiting list, hopefully I'll get it soon :)

But I know I'm supposed to add beans and dairy into my daily eating, right?

Zeff - You crack me up!!

I think it's like 2 cups of dairy a day which means milk and whatever else anyone can add to that. Cheese is a different group from the dairy and you're supposed to have cheese too.

Hey Ruth, we get mice all the time in our house. They rummage through the garbage, and they eat cat friskies too, LOL.. they leave their freakin little turds all over the place and chew through everything.. I have a pair of jeans they wrecked aside from all of mom's barbie doll collectables - boy is she gonna be pissed. Does Warfarin work to rid of them?

BTW, my cats do nothing to the mouse, they just stare at it, LOL

hmac, it was a meeting to determine if he needs his retesting, which they do every three years if necessary. He is just starting middle school and is having some issues with the transition, nothing extreme. He is diagnosed with a specific learning disability, which to me translates to: he can't spell worth anything and his handwriting is atrociously illegible. Otherwise he's very bright. He used to have big issues with reading, 2 grade levels below his age, but he had a great team in elementary school and did Read Naturally and is now on grade level with that.

zeff, you should do that sometime when your DH is around. He might enjoy having your lips glued together for a while. :lol: Sorry couldn't resist. I know mine would Especially if it's that bi*chy TOM

Hi Brie!!:wave: Welcome.

Mel your right on my friend request I got. I graduated HS with him, and yes I saw him on the Surreal Life, it was very painful to watch because that wasn't the guy I went to school with. We all hoped he would be at our class reunion but he was filming something is Canada at the time and couldn't get away. Poor guys has it rough, I sure wouldn't want his life. I'll take my boring same ole, same ole anyday!

Welcome Brie

Wow, I can't believe I was right! *does a Right dance* :lol:

You must have been pretty memorable since he still remembers you after 21 years and after all of the celebrities he must have met during the years since. Maybe as an old friend, you'd be able to help him out. From what I saw on the surreal life, seems he was in a very dark place. Congrats on getting back into contact with an old friend, it sounds pretty exciting. I wonder who I'll know in 21 years who has become a celebrity? Maybe me. :D Just kidding. I couldn't deal with their lifestyle.. like you said, I'd take my boring life any day.

Bathrooms done. I added some lemon and orange essential oils to my shaklee basic H so the bathrooms would smell nice and clean. It really worked! I washed all the curtains in the bathrooms and took down the blinds (DH can wash those later - I'm pooped!). I was surprised at how much brighter the curtains are now!

ok - lunch time. I need to put my feet up for awhile.

Mel - I really like that cat pose - that combined with other yoga poses have really done wonders to keep my body pretty limber. Also - elevating my feet when my back is sore helps.

Yep, cheese is considered a protein on SBD. I believe the beans are 1/3 to 1/2 cup. I'm gonna have to look up some bean recipes. I like them, but don't know what to do with them besides chili and bean soup :lol:

Can you come clean my bathroom? Heheh. The house is such a wreck right now. And I found something quite disgusting in the bathtub... kitten poop... and I've been doing everything to train them. Now I've got to fill the tub with hot water and bleach.

Cat Pose; everytime I did it BF would laugh wildly at me and said I didn't look like I was doing it right, like the woman in the video did. Ahh I remember how huge I was. I had bad acid in the back of my throat and sleeping comfortably was ****. In retrospect, if I had tried more to do the cat pose efficiently, it may have helped more. But I was so huge and bloated with an over 9 lb baby and aches and pains and everything else that the effort was intimidating. As you could imagine, I complained a lot during the latter stages of pregnancy and BF didn't pay me any mind. If only they could feel what it's like.. And I hardly exercised a day during pregnancy which probably had a lot to do with how hard it was for me to do certain things such as the cat pose and other things. I got high blood pressure and I had to be induced. The day before my due date, I was admitted into the hospital to be induced and it didn't take. The next day, they gave me the oxytocin again and then the doctor broke my water (horrible, horrible). So Liam ended up being born on not only his due date, but his father's birthday. The whole time he was overjoyed that the due date was his birthday, and he kept telling me Liam would be born that day, despite what I read about babies being born usually a little later or a little earlier than the due dates. But, that's what ended up happening! So we'll celebrate Liam's first birthday on his daddy's 28th... pretty cool, huh?

Yep, I'm all reliving my own experience because there's two preggos here and it's pretty exciting, I can feel excitement for you guys because I remember how it was, the bad and the good!

When are you due? Sometime soon, isn't it?
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Jelly, WHERE YOU AT!?

Did you watch DOOL? We must discuss!

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SheltieMomma, I don't know much of what to do with beans either. In fact I am not crazy about them, other than hummus which is a really great dip. Especially the garlic kind! Have you had that? Welcome to the SBD by the way.

My c-section is scheduled for Dec. 31. I was induced last time because I had a small, tilted pelvis and a very large baby (thanks to my DH who is 6'6) - they induced 3 weeks before my due date which led to a 28 hour labor before I finally ended up having to have a section. :(

JessieW is due very soon! and AutumnRose is another preggo....but she's due sometime in 2009 if I recall correctly.

Man, litter training is so simple. We just threw our kitty into the box, smushed his feet around a little and done.

btw, if you bathe the baby in that same tub - you may just want to use white vinegar instead of bleach. Same disinfecting properties - only not so lethal.

I am hoping this baby takes after her father, who is miniscule. :) And his only struggle with weight is trying to gain it. He is 5'5" and about 130 lbs. We all hate his kind, eh?

I really, really wish I had exercised more than I have during this pregnancy. I am worried about laboring being much harder because I am out of shape. I do the cat pose and other things to try to ease my back pain.

I am due 3 days before my DH's birthday and he really DOESN'T want me to have the baby on his birthday. LOL. He doesn't want to share. He also doesn't want a Halloween baby. Picky, picky. I will be so happy to have her out I don't care what day it is anymore. Although I would like her to wait a few more weeks and get good and healthy.

Whoa, 6'6! Nice! Tall men are the best. BF is 6'3 and I thought THAT was tall.

Oh yeah! I forgot about AutumnRose! But I recall reading about JessieW being due soon. It's pretty exciting.

Baby boy has his own personal bathtub BUT, I just cleaned out his tub last night with hot water and bleach and then repeatedly rinsed it. I didn't know that it was lethal to babies! Uh oh. I mean, I know if they ingest it and I know not to sit them in pure bleach, or even diluted bleach water but I thought cleaning the tub and then rinsing it was fine. Thanks for the heads up, I'll use vinegar from now on. I used that the other day to clean the countertops and kitchen floor when I was out of bleach. And it makes windws all sparkly.

hey gang.... welcoem Brie

Zeff my anniversary is December 31st!

Hey Mel, I haven't watched DOOL yet, have a headache (as always) i'm trying to get rid of.. and my dad worrying and blah blahing to me about the economy crisis doesn't make me feel any better.. I think his mouth is giving me headaches seriously.

When I was in labor, it took hours and I had to keep pushing and then give up, out of breath. I should have exercised more as well! But, eventually the baby's gotta come out. I think you'll do fine though. I'm excited for you.

I avoided being born on Halloween by just a few hours, was born the day after. I can see why your DH doesn't want the baby to be born on his birthday but, then again, it's really special. BF calls it his own very special best-ever birthday gift.

When are you due?

I'm due October 26.

I won't give anything away, (much), but you've gotta see the new low Trent Robbins has sunk to... Plus more allusion to Nicole's pregnancy.

Not to mention for a man probably pushing 60 if not already 60+, wow, he's got some body on him. Never noticed before, in his business suits and all. Today's episode, he was in a gray tanktop and he's really nicely built and tan. Wow. He can be my sugar daddy any day.

Chloe's boobs: Just something that needs to be mentioned in its own right. Where can I pick up a pair of those??! So jealous.

Mel - it is lethal to anybody...not just babies. I'm sure it is fine if you rinse it very well....just remember - especially when DS starts to crawl and walk that there hands are in everything that you clean with...even if they don't even touch the bottle. They put their hands in their mouths...blah blah, you get the picture. Vinegar and baking soda were all I used for a really long time until I started using Shaklee stuff - but I still revert to vinegar for things like windows and kitchen floors (put a little vanilla or essential oils in it to cut the smell) it makes for nice shiny floors and windows!

Nessa - We can celebrate with champagne! If it is a good night, we'll both be in a little pain...me from labor, you from laundry....:devil:

Jessie - how excited are you! Oh my....I'm super excited for you!

JessieW, I'm an idiot, after you mentioned Halloween and your husband not wanting the baby to be born that day, I should have figured it was somewhere around there. Homer Simpson D'oh!

That's not too long from now... a little over a month away... excited yet, or scared? Is this your first? I think I've read somewhere that this is your second child but most people here have kids so I've still yet to get everyone's individual stories straight.

Congratulations..

Soon!!!

I'm pretty sure this is Jessie's first baby....unless she is hiding them from us.

AutumnRose and I both have kids.

Shaklee makes vitamins and green & natural products, right? I think I've recieved samples in the mail before.

I'm contemplating trying Green Works, the next cleaning stuff. They've got dishwashing liquid now, too.

Oh, Moms: Tummy time trouble again. Everytime I put that child on his stomach he just rolls right back over to his back, no matter how many times I put him back on his stomach. I'm starting to think he'll never sit up by himself or crawl and that come christmas time, he'll be an almost 1 year who can't do anything and everyone will think I'm a terrible caregiver. Urgh. I can just hear my sister's smug comments now, although that's the least of my worries. I just want to make sure he's fine... I'm worrying.

EDIT: Sorry again JessieW. Congrats on your first. I knew Zeff has a DS, and Lady Nessa, and some others.. Didn't know about Autumn. I'll eventually learn.

He'll be fine, Mel. Just let him play on the floor. Rolling around on the floor is helping him develop those muscles as well.

How about putting him on a blanket, getting down on your tummy too and playing with toys? Make his stuffed animals make noises and run around in front of him. If he's distracted, he'll be less likely to remember that he hates being on his tummy. Also, sit him up (just use his arms to stabilize him) and play with him that way. He'll get used to it in no time. The good thing about babies is that they develop really quickly. They can go from showing no signs at all to doing just what you wanted them to in a matter of hours. :)

Alright, that sounds like a plan. I'm worried about how I quit giving him breast milk early on because my milk started drying up. I know breastmilk raises their IQ so they say, and I read something where Dr Sears said that the more breastmilk they get, the higher their IQ. I'm worried he won't be as smart as he could potentially have been since he only had breast milk for a couple of months.

My mother breastfed all three of us and we all showed signs of higher IQ's, were tested for such and then all were placed in AG, aka academically gifted classes, in school. I don't mean for that to sound braggy in any way, it's just that I want my son to go on to do the same.

I'm a neurotic mother it seems.

While there are studies done...I wouldn't place that as the cause of your son not sitting yet. I breastfed my son for only a few months before my milk dried up...he's just fine. I was an entirely formula fed baby and I'm a member of Mensa (not that that really means anything - please don't take it as me bragging). My DH was also an entirely formula fed baby and is a chemist and a mathematician....even though he acts like a zoo animal sometimes, he is pretty smart. Formula fed babies are not all going to be stupid and not all breastfed babies are going to be geniuses.

Also...he is 7 months old. I think it is just a tad too early to discount his intelligence, hon.

oh please both my boys were breastfed longer than ALL YOUR CHILDREN COMBINED.

both of them REMEMBER nursing. Mike was past 4 and daniel past 3 when i weaned them....

Mike is autistic spectrum
daniel did not even try to walk till about 13 months....

breast milk is great for the babies but it's not magic.

I think perhaps I should put down the Parenting and American Baby magazines for awhile... they constantly make me feel inferior (and paranoid, it seems) for having to cut his breastfeeding so short. What with all the studies cited about greater IQs applying to breastfed babies and whatnot.

Also, I didn't mean to imply anyone became stupid if they were formula fed.. I realized how it sounded. Foot in mouth! Nor did I mean that I was AG and superior because I was superiorly breastfed.. heheheh. Nothing like that! :)

I'm just very neurotic about how things are progressing.

Although he is very social, he looks around very inquisitively, understands that the kittens are not toys, but living things that can interact with him judging by the way he grabs at them and babbles at them excitedly and smiles at them, whereas with toys he just grabs them.

But the doctor's nurse was asking a series of questions they ask at each visit to check for milestones. She asked if he responds in any way when I say "no no" to him, for example if he pulls my hair, which he does. I don't really say 'no no' to him. So I wasn't sure how to answer the question. So she said, well does he seem to understand you.. I wasn't sure. Yesterday he pulled my hair so I said, "no no. That hurts Mommy. No no." and he just grabbed on tigher and looked at me with puzzlement.

I don't expect him to understand yet but according to the nurse, he should??

Okay, I know, I'm on this nonstop worryfest and it's probably a pain in the :censored:. I'll stop. For today anyway. Bwhaha. :D

Mel - he wasn't born with an inherent understanding of no-no. It will take him awhile to learn what no-no means. You also have to show him...if he is pulling your hair, say no and then take his hand away. If he does it again, repeat. If he is touching something else he should...tell him no. If you don't teach him the meaning of no....he won't understand it....just like everything else in the world.

Also, take parenting magazines advice with a grain of salt. Breastfeeding is the new black nowadays...when I was a kid, our parents were told to formula feed...I'm not discounting that is has purpose...but just because your child wasn't breastfed for a long time doesn't mean that he is going to not be smart. Well baby visits are the same way - just because a doctor sees your son for 10 minutes every few months doesn't mean that she knows him specifically...she is going off of what the average child is doing...unfortunately, not all children are average. Remember that the average is made up of kids that do it REALLY early and some that do it REALLY late.

Just let him develop and stop worrying about it.

dogs husbands and babies all have to be trained.


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Mel don't worry I am the queen of foot in the mouth! As far as the parenting magazines go, yes they are helpful but sometimes a bit overboard. Most of us turned out ok and our parents didn't have them when we were growing up! From what I can gather you are doing fine, don't stress so much, enjoy this time before you know it you'll be facing an empty nest and wondering where the years went!

ETA: one of the funniest things my oldest ever did is if you went through all the animal sounds (what does a duck say etc.) followed by what does mommy say, he would say no-no!

Thank you Zeff. It does give me some peace of mind to know that I am just overly worrying. If everyone was shocked and horrified at his development, that'd be another thing but I see I'm just stressing it when I should just let him do his thing. Thank god for this message board having other moms.. if not for other moms with experience, I'd go insane. The doctor is never very helpful.



Heheheh! Especially husbands/significant others.

Thanks Pacergal! Like I said, it really does help soothe my neurotic mind when you guys set me straight. A friend of mine who works at a daycare really had me going insane with her comments about he should be doing this and that and this and that at this specific time. Feels better to know that it's normal for everyone to develop at their own pace.

That is so friggin' adorable about your son. hehehe! I look forward to stuff like that.

It certainly is a chat these days. I have nothing to add except to say that I had a lovely afternoon sitting by the Lake drinking tea and watching two dogs have playtime!

It sounds so nice to relax by a lake like that. It sounds soothing, and peaceful and certainly fun for the pups.

It would be beautiful to live by a lake! I'd sit out there with some water bottles, the cats, and just me. BF is too loud and disruptive. I'd just sit there, watch the water and let any stress melt away.

I'm envious!

Hers are probably double d's.

Urgh, it sucks, all groceries are definitely going up. It's practically $2 for a 3 liter of diet pepsi nowadays, although I haven't had it in over a week. (I do miss it though.) It is unbelievable! We'll get the tiniest bit of stuff, even value stuff and sales, and it will still be like $80 at the register. Our monthly food budget depletes almost automatically in about a week. It's so ridiculous.

Ah, Ruth. How I could use a relaxing day by the lake. Your property sounds beautiful.

You'll become malnourished, Jelly!

Your mouser banter takes me back to the first cat I had as an adult. She caused me to have mice. We were poor newly weds living in a mobile home when Dusty walked into the house proud as could be of the mouse she caught. Of course I screamed which made her drop it and run and the stupid mouse got away. What a time we had with mice after that. This is the same cat that used to like to run down the hall and jump on the rug in front of my refrigerator and ride it across the kitchen … until the day she did it just as I was opening the stupid door. We were sure she had killed herself but she was fine, had her many many years after that. She also thought it was funny to walk on the electronic keyboard when I tried to play it, I guess she thought she was accompanying me.

Evangeline - :lol: Our kitty does the same thing with sliding around....it must be a cat thing.

Loriann - My boss (the owner of the vet office i work at) is allergic to cats. She has 4 cats of her own, and comes in contact with many cats each day. There are only certain ones that really cause her problems though. When one of these cats come in she has to be extra sure not to rub her eyes until she washes her hands. Maybe you're just allergic to the kitty you have now, but not necessarily to all kitties? Good luck! One of my cats often decides to play fetch in the middle of the night.

And on a side note about kitties - one of mine had been "hunting" one of her toy mice for about a week. The other night I came home to find most of the mouse in tact on my bedroom floor...the rest of it was in a pile of vomit in the dining room. So of course i took her to the vet the next morning...she's been fine since and apparently vomited (or pooped) out every bit of it that she ate.


:goodluck: Loriann!

I'm not rich either. It sucks. So we're going to change all of that. BF and I plan on going back to college in January, or whenever the next semester starts, and my grandmother has agreed to watch our son. BF already has computer tech certifications but wants to go for a full IT degree or something like that. Then one day we'll have decent jobs and actually own a place rather than renting.

It is hard to afford all of the food I need for the SBD so I understand where you're coming from. I try to buy bulk meat deals from the grocery store and stuff like that.

My friend is on food stamps, could your family qualify? It would probably help you greatly.