[sallyjayd]

I'm NEW to this lifting life.
At home I have a weight bench with free weights and over head pull down bars. nothing to fancy.

for arobics I have a treadmil, stepper. gazelle. heart monitor with calorie burn guide on the watch.

Really want to get a glut machine the one you bend over and straight in up to do the buns.

AND WAYS My questions are: 1. when I DO BUTTERFLIES or BENCH PRESS my neck & shoulder hurt to much to go on and I never really feel it in my chest. am I doing them wrong??? 2. Also I can't do situp without my back hurting?

My husband tells me that my neck shoulder are just weeker then my chest. and this is normal until they get stronger (I don't really want a big neck)
after my neck & shoulders get stronger that I will start to feel it in the chest. make sense to anyone?


I will amit my shoulders need ALOT of work! shoulder raises kill me after 10 with NO weight.

My neck hurt most of the time from the weight of my chest (big breast wouldn't cures them on my worst ememy) could this becauseing it?


He really doesn't want me having a trainer. I have suggested it to him even a girl. He lifted weight when he was younger. and just started to lift with me. he tells me the proper form?? and is insulted when I sugest about the trainer I just don't think I'm doing it right

same with situps full or crunches. My back always hurts even if I keep it pressed to the ground.

Is there a better exercise for me to start out with???

And info will be very helpful.


Thanks for the time.

[luv2lift]

Hi Sally

I think your lack of deltoid strength and stress from large breasts could be playing a role. It's very difficult without seeing your form. Your not going to get a big neck because this excersise doesn't recruit the traps. It does,however, recruit the shoulders. If your hands are too close together on the bar, you will be recruiting the triceps and shoulders much more. Grip the bar at elbow width, not shoulder width and be sure your not squeezing your shoulders or traps during the excersise. (scrunching up your neck) Keep neck long, shoulders flat and bring bar down to nipples (pardon) not to clavicle area.
Like I said, it is difficult to help without seeing your form. These are just some common mistakes I se people make so I am throwing it out there.
Maybe your husband would go for the two of you seeing a trainer together even for one or two sessions?
Even professional athletes who have been training for years seek advice and/or have their own trainers. Even *trainers* often have partners who correct their form. It always helps to have an objective eye. Perhaps presenting it this way will prevent him from feeling threatened??
Men...Argh!
I know, I have one too
Best of Luck
XOXO
L2L

[sallyjayd]

luv2lift

thanks,

I always brought the weight to the clavile area instead. Jay did make a comment on this all the time (oopps my bad) & I'm sure I don't keep my neck long enough. I will make Jay yell at me and watch me closer. I usally use dumbells. 20lbs each butterfly 10lbs each

I can't do the close grip I would drop even 5 pound on me. My shoulder are pathadic. They are really worse they you can picture

Is there any really good exercise for my weak shoulder??

would it be a good Idea to skip the bench & butterflies and just work on my shoulders first?

I'm going to drop down to a light weight and just get use to the form.

then go heavier in a couple of weeks. is that a good idea?

I can do a over head pull down no problem just the front & top of shoulders are bad

No trainer!!!! Jay Just would hear of it I tried to suggest it again yesterday (while my neck really hurt, enought that I can't stand it) Told him just one week JUST ONE WEEK he could go and get some training advice so he could keep an eye on me the next week. He just not intrested in "waisting" money on something he knows how to do. He also fixes everthing maybe sometime a couple of time.

[luv2lift]

I usally use dumbells. 20lbs each butterfly 10lbs each

Same thing with DB's as with BB's. Bring the weight down to the nipple area, not the clavicle. You have to have your hands a little closer because of the fact that your using DB;'s but be concious that on the downward portion of the excersies your bringing the dumbell to the lateral chest area, so that the inner portion of the DB is more or less on the sides of your breasts, not on top of them. Push DB's up and you can bring them together at the top if you want to give the pecs a good squeeze, but widen as you come down so DB's are on the sides of the breasts, not up in your clavicle area...


would it be a good Idea to skip the bench & butterflies and just work on my shoulders first?

No, continue to train your chest (and all of your bodyparts, for that matter) even when your trying to bring up a weak part.

I'm going to drop down to a light weight and just get use to the form.

then go heavier in a couple of weeks. is that a good idea?

Probably, yes. Form is the first thing you need to master, before focusing on strength gains. The last thing you want to do is injure your self. If you can do 12 to 15 reps with the weight your using then it is probably light enough that you can still pay a lot of attention to your form. If not, then I would lighten up for awhile while you get your form down to where it is automatic.

Is there any really good exercise for my weak shoulder??

There are lot's of good excersises for shoulders. I would not go heavy at all right now. It is easy to injure shoulders and they are thre kind of muscle that you won't neccesarily know you hurt it til' a couple days later.
A good excersise (or excersises, I should say) would be cable raises for shoulders.

Cable side raises: Stand next to the cable pulley (lower cable) so your left foot is next to it. With right arm, reach across your body and grab the cable. Use a light weight (so you can do 15 reps easily) stand up straight, with back erect and leaning slightly to the right. Start position is with the cable in fromt of crotch. raise cable across body and out to the side unil it is parallel with shoulder.

Front cable raises: are done with the cable at the back of your feet, grab cable. Stand up straight. start position is with cable at hip. raise arm straight up until cable is at shoulder height.

Rear delt raises are a little trickier: Form is very important.
stand with cable to your side. Bend at waist until parallel to the floor with kneesslighlty bent and back flat and erect (NOT slumped). Reach across body with arm furthest from cable and grasp cable. Start position is with cable hanging down in front of you as your bent over. raise arm laterally (like a reverse flye) until it is parallel with your back. If you can't help but raise your back up while performing this excersise, the weight is too heavy and you are recruiting other muscles.

These three excersisie will work all three heads of the deltoid. I still do them quite a bit because they are awesome for shoulders.

I suggest cables to start because they are easeir to control than free weights and this is a great way to bring your shoulders up to speed.

I would start with one set of each maybe 3 times a week, then work up to 3 sets of each. Eventually you will be doing a lot more 'volume' (total sets and reps for one bodypart) that you will only be able to trian that part every few days. Right now though, I would train shoulders 3 times a week woth one set of each excersise as a good starting point. Every couple weeks add a set and see how it goes.

OK
Bets of luck
XOXO
L2L