BFL questions (again) - 3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community

livein · 03-31-2003, 07:46 AM

I am beginning body for life today. I put together a meal plan and it seemed very difficult to pull together meals. Can anyone send me examples of meal plans. I also have so many can I have questions. Can I have lunchmeat? Or salad dressing. I see people with menus with jello or sweetners in it. How do I know what is allowed besides the authorized list. I will continue to monitor the threads buy any information would be great.

Thanks again...

rochemist · 03-31-2003, 09:15 AM

Coming into week 5 and no expert by any means. I will tell you I cling to the authorized foods list pretty tightly. When I have had the questions you had I tried to use common sense. Is this healthy, is it unprocessed, does it have hidden sugars or fat, why is this not on the authorized food list, how much of this do I need, and why do I want to add it.

I have no idea about jello I have never seen it before on a BFL menu. Personally I don't think it would fill me up and keep me going so I wouldn't eat it.

I do occasionally have 1 tbsp. of Light Done Right Dressing with my veggies which is 1/2 a serving and not a great impact. I do use marinades and figure out the impact to my chicken, as long as it adds less than 7 g of carbs I am okay with it. I can balance it. Same with 1 tbsp of BBQ sauce(25 cals, 5.5 g carbs, 0 fat, 0 protein). Because I figure this is also about food enjoyment and sticking to it. Hardcore people might say I am bending the rules, I think of it as common sense.

Also and this is where I might get blasted. The authorized foods list is pretty general and with all the food in the world do you think Bill considered them all? What does he eat, compared to things I might find here in the midwest or how about in the world?

My advice to you is try to eat directly off the list and figure out your level of commitment to it. You only get out what you put in, and you also need to do whats best for you. I am very happy with the results I have had so far on BFL and I figure it will probably take another 2 challenges after this to get close to where I want to be. I am still learning and with an open mind I go forward.

Miss Chris

rochemist · 03-31-2003, 09:22 AM

A typical day for me, I drink 3-5 L of water over the course of the day. No pop it makes me bloated!:

Meal 1-
Coffee
1/2 cup of oatmeal
1/2 cup of cottage cheese

Meal 2
4 hard boiled egg whites
1 medium orange

Meal 3
4 oz. of chicken
1 cup of green beans
6 oz. of FF Yogurt

Meal 4
1 can of tuna mixed with the rest of the green beans on 1 slice of whole wheat bread

Meal 5
4 oz. of Laura's Lean Beef
1 cup of broccoli
1 cup of strawberries with Splenda

Meal 6
1/2 cup of cottage cheese
1/2 cup of Kashi Go Lean(something I added to my authorized foods list)

Any opinions?
Miss Chris

livein · 03-31-2003, 10:30 AM

I have a few more questions.

Can I have sugar free gum?
Can I split my workout up? (1/2 workout in the morning, 1/2 evening)
Can I have fruits not on the authorized list?
Can I have lunchmeats?
Can I have salad dressing?

I'm just trying to make sense of it all.

Niffer · 03-31-2003, 11:15 AM

OK - Let's start with Chris. I don't know your stats, but I would say you're not eating enough. And what you are eating isn't optimal. I would suggest you add different kinds of carbs instead of the fruit, yogurt and bread. WHY? Well, cuz they don't fill you up and there are better choices for building muscles. Things like barley, beans, oatmeal, yams, potatoes, lentils. You can eat bread, but I would limit it to once a day because it's so processed. Also, if you eat such small amounts, you're going to start to bonk in the gym - trust me!

The girls will tell ya - I wasn't eating enough and was so tired I could hardly move. *SCRATCHHEAD* I couldn't figger it out. Then, I looked at my food and there it was - not enough and not the right stuff. I would think you'd need to up your protein too.

Here is what I eat:

1. 5EW + 1 whole egg, 1C cooked steel-cut oats
2. 1C CC, 1 1/2C Blueberries
3. Ground turkey breast, potato, veggies
4. MRP
5. Tuna, veggies, yam
6. EW + oats

So, if you could post your stats, that would help in figuring out your portion sizes. Thankie!

Now, Livein -

Yes, you may have sugar free gum

Splitting your workout may pose some problems. At the end of the day you may be tired and not want to go back. Something may come up and you won't be able to get back. It's VERY time consuming to do it that way. If you're worried about not having enough time in the morning, you may have to get up a little earlier to get the whole WO in. I'm not sure of your particular reasoning - could be kids, work, etc. You CAN do the whole WO in the PM with great results. Others have.

I would say fruits are OK - ONCE a day.

Stay away from lunchmeat - it's highly processed and loaded with salt. Cook up some turkey breasts or chicken ahead of time on the George Forman grill and you'll be set for the week. Look at the thread "Supplies You Cannot Live Without" It'll give you a list of things folks use everyday.

I would put salad dressing on the NO NO list. If it's Fat Free means it's HIGH in sugar to make up for the flavor lost from the fat. Be very careful - you could try to make your own. Olive oil (very little) along with some spices.

Check the Recipes Thread for Jello info - it's yummy. I use the FF SF banana in my shake to thicken it up. Lanaii (Ilene) has a great recipe for white chocolate pudding w/ CC that's to die for!

Overall - stick to whole, unprocessed foods and you won't go wrong. Well, as long as ya don't eat truckloads!

livein · 03-31-2003, 11:27 AM

Niffer,
If you could help me figure out if I'm eating enough it would be greatly appreciated. I am currently 178 lbs. I'm 5'7 and medium boned. I have a goal of about 145 ( I think).

Am I eating enough?

rochemist · 03-31-2003, 11:48 AM

All right Niffer I will take any advice I can get. I am as of today 193 lbs at 5'8. I thought I had been doing pretty well I am getting between 110-150 g of protein a day, 110-150 g of carbs, and 20-30 g of fat. Mostly I have just tried to balance out my meals. Oatmeal is okay and I like beans and eat them. My fist portion is 1 cup, but I can't eat 1 cup of cottage cheese and a carb too, its too much. I feel all bloated afterwards, and kind mof sick. I hate potatoes they don't taste like anything to me. I like brown rice, but I can't eat much of it cause it makes me have indigestion. No pasta or corn. Its a major trigger food. So what do you think?

Miss Chris

rochemist · 03-31-2003, 05:56 PM

OMG Niffer this bothered me so bad this morning I went through all my menus and into my spreadsheet. (I took what Bill said about planning very seriously) and yes OMG is my protein low!!!!! Now I am trying to put the last 4 weeks behind me and think this will just help me with the next 7. I wish I had done this earlier, now I have 145-200 g of protein planned per day. Thank you! (I am so fat and tired of it, thats why I love body for life its working!)

Miss Chris

MrsJim · 03-31-2003, 06:24 PM

Miss Chris - here's an idea - why not blend your cottage cheese with some cooked sweet potato, cinnamon and Splenda? very yummy indeed! Or if that's too much for you, toss in a serving of DRY oatmeal, vanilla extract, Splenda, a spoonful of natural peanut butter and blend blend blend!! pretty good too.