Vickie, I am exercising in the morning. Found that when I exercised at night, I wasn't sleeping very well. WI is tomorrow, trying to drink extra water and might even exercise again. My scale shows that I'm down a pound, but we all know that might be back tomorrow. Thanks for the encouragement. I don't know how you drink 80 oz. of water a day. I'm lucky if I can get in 4 glasses plus coffee and diet soda.

So for those of you that are interested - here's the scoop on sugar!

http://healthandfitness.sympatico.ms...etect=&abc=abc

Froufie

P.S. Very hungry this pm - guess the WHOLE 19 OZ CAN OF SOUP didn't cut it? :lol: Had some microwave popcorn (snack bag size), more water, and a banana...and a teaspoon of peanut butter (I think not enuf protein at lunch) Time to head home and attack the fridge! :o

Froufie, if I don't exercise that much this old perimenopausal body gives up no weight. Mum, I just started drinking the 80 oz because Torrey or someone said she loses more when she drinks more. I was only drinking what WW recommends as the minimum (48 oz). When I kicked it up a notch I had a good week last week (-2.4). Sometimes I just have to hold my nose and drink.....oh and I always drink from a straw. My Leader says that it is proven that you drink more with a straw. I buy myself pretty neon ones to amuse myself!

Froufie, I don't think a whole can of soup is too much. Did I tell you all that WW told me that the potato in some of the soups does NOT have to be counted against your one a day potato/rice/pasta limit? One of my favorite soups has some potato in it. I would have HATED to give it up because of the potato.

Guzzle that water, Frouf....it's critical.

Cher...so I see that you are another "scale rider" to add to our group. Lord Almighty, if only we could all stay off the darn scales. Try not to overreact. You'll lose by your weigh in as long as you are staying on Core and counting points for all treats. EEEWWWWWW, are sardines Core? There's one Core food I will never try. I like salt but fish I'm not too big on.

Froufie, sounds like emotional eating to me. Try to distract yourself if you can.

Forgot to tell you all.....for those of you who don't post your menus or read our other boards....One of our new posters, PinkBrideToBe, asked for corn bread recipes. I posted two. One is a more traditional cornbread (which I'm having tonight with leftover chili) and another "fried" corn cakes. They are in the January 25 menus thread and in the "salads and sides" section of our recipe board if you are interested. I've tried both and would make them again. Hubby liked both.

Froufie, so will they come out with a "sugar patch" like they have for nicotine? We all knew that sugar is addictive but the author in the article could give you a good scare!

It was me re: the ton of water. I drink 96 oz. while at work and usually 2 16oz. with dinner and taking vitamins before bed. it definitely helps a great deal, especially with fighting the hungries, etc. The only drawback is that I am in the ladies' room a lot, but the trade off is worth it. I've heard in a couple of places recently that you should shoot to drink at least half of your body weight everyday, opposed to the old 6 to 8 glasses a day.

The 32 oz. cup I use in the office has a lid w/straw and I agree with Vickie that that makes a huge difference. It's very second nature now to sip away while I'm working. The only problem is that I don't drink nearly as much on the weekend. Am working on that.

Torrey

Froufy, thank you for the happy dancers!!!! They are so cute!

Torrey

Well, not riding the scale was one reason I let it creep up this last time. I just do it first thing in the morning if I happen to think of it. And I do know that my weight can shift around a few pounds a day--more if it's that TOM. I'm 43 and on a low dose of synthroid too, by the way. And I've I also noticed more gain around the waist than I used to have. I was always one of those who just gained a little bit everywhere. I lost 35 pounds a couple of years ago and only went down one clothing size. Not this time, though, hence the pants.

I think all canned fish and seafood is Core, as long as it's not packed in oil. I'm sure sardines aren't everyone's cup of tea--but I get tired of meat and there aren't very many Core foods besides soup, tuna, and sardines that you can just toss in a desk drawer for a few weeks for emergency lunches. The only gripe I have with Core, is that it takes a lot of planning.

I've been doing well, though. I think I'm getting better at stopping when I'm satisfied and waiting a while between snacks, etc.

That's interesting information about the potato. I'm assuming that soups with mostly vegetables and a little potato are ok, but something like potato soup or chowder would have to be counted? Potatoes are the best thing about Core. On South Beach potatoes are eeeeeeevil.

Wow!!! so many posts...so little time......geez!! so much happening since I posted just last evening. I don't even remember all of what I read, but to All the new posters, WELCOME :D
To those of you who are doing great :bravo: To those of you who are not doing great...welcome to world :mad: I am running out of answers and solutions and actually tired of hearing myself saying the same thing over and over. I am so out of control with this :fr: It's like I have given myself the green light ot eat (what nerve) I start out sooooooooo good, and then, BAM by midday I am out of control. I say this as I eat a bowl of cous cous, after having a bag of WW snacks- honey mustard squares...2 pts a bag, had 2 bags. I just can't seem to do it anymore :shrug: .....but why???? Guess that is a rhetorical question!!
So once again I have screwed up my day...gee what a surprise :yikes:
Well let me go inside and take a good long look again at what I am doing and regroup.....have a great evening and I will 'talk' with you all later.....
probably be three more pages added :-)
P.S. :rofl: What does this mean??? I cannot figure it out???

:rofl: <-- This little guy? He's rolling on the floor laughing!!!

L.J., have you tried eating protein everytime you eat something starchy? I know, for me, it really helps keep control of my appetite. I think that's why they specify having milk or yogurt with the cereal and they are probably assuming that cous cous and such will be part of a meal. If you are a nibbler and like beans, you might try edamame--they are Core and a bit more satisfying than carrot sticks and such. I like to put some seasoned salt on them.

Home Again
 

Speaking of SUGAR ADDICTION :devil: - those that are having trouble staying on plan should have a "look see" at what they're eating! I know from experience that sugar induction brings on the need for more sugar induction...and so the evil cycle begins! Like cher mentioned try protein instead of carbs or anything w/sugar when you're hungry and I think you will see a big difference in your control. :soap:

My gf is doing Core (kinda under my direction) and she was a supreme sugar addict - and the first day on core (with little to no added sugar) she was shaking and headachey and weak :faint: - by the next day she was much better and I am encouraging her not to eat food w/added sugar. Once you stop for a few days you will be able to turn youR little nose up! :snooty:

As for sardines! nothing wrong with them - how about that marinated herring? yum yum! :hungry:

Vickie - I made the cornmeal corn cake thingies for supper :chef: - turned out great! I omitted the sugar, used about 1/2 can of corn w/cumin, garlic powder and a few tablespoons of chopped green chilies, fried up in healthy oil of course. Ate them with some canned Stagg chili - found a low fat vegetarian version in the store - not bad, just spicy enuf for a frouf!...leftovers for lunch tomorrow (with a side of ff sour cream to cool it off as required! :flame: ).

..and Vickie we don't need a "sugar patch" - we're sweet enuf! :dance:

Frouf :D

Cher, you know I wasn't being critical, right?! We are ALL scale riders here. We've been joking for weeks how we can't help ourselves. I think you're right....if it were potato soup you would have to count it as your potato serving.

Another scale rider (and proud to be so) checking in! I weigh in the morning, right after work, and right before bedtime. Is that anal or WHAT???

So I was feeling a little colicky (my DH's term for having gastro rumblings) tonight and wasn't hungry at all! In fact, I was sure that if I ate, I would see it again and not in a very pleasant way. Too much info? :lol:

Lunch is all packed for tomorrow, and taking a cue from that fat-food thing that Frannie posted, I am eating jalapenos on my chili. I made some chili Sunday but nobody wanted any. It should be Core because it's just lean meat, diced tomatoes, pinto beans, garlic, onion, and um ... I think that's all. I'll heat it up, then add some FF grated cheddar and jalapenos, and maybe eat a few Wheat Thins (pts) with it. I also have a deviled egg, so like I said -- I'm all set!

hey there you all,

i seem to be stuck on having oatmeal with applesauce at my desk every morning.......i must be taking comfort in it because of the cold....

having salad, tuna for lunch today and brought in a yogurt smoothie 0% fat, 70 calories.......not bad not bad

supper tonight will be late i have to go and get the right color put into my hair for whatever reason, it wants to grow in gray and white.........what's with that????

i am still journalling everything i eat.......i think i will go back and count up the points that i actually eat and see what that is......even though i don't have to count i am curious as to what they might be....

frouf--i have not tried that stagg chili, is it pretty good? maybe i will pick up a can this week along with some soup of some sort......although i am not a big soup person every once in a while it is ok......would rather have homemade...do you have a favorite canned?

tunney's pasture.......we have a lab there but i have not been there.....the calibrate our instruments........interesting to say the least

l.j. dont be so hard on yourself.......we all have days like that...everyone is a challenge.....an opportunity to succeed......

hey, vickie, i am making your glop tomorrow! can't wait! yummy

continue on having a great core day everyone!

Hi all,

Just checking in, man is this board busy! I missed my weigh-in on Saturday due to the snow. Vickie thanks for the cornbread recipes. I plan on trying them this week.
Welcome to all the newbies this is a great board so much support. Have a great day everyone. Even though I don't get to post regularly I do read the board everyday. You guys are a great support system.

Hi everyone!
How do you guys drink so much water?? I think I would puke. I will try to drink more, but half my body weight, no way. Do you drink just water, or are you counting decaf coffee and diet soda in there? OH.........almost forgot had WI this morning, lost exactly 1 lb. Yippee!!! It's been a while since I lost a whole lb. in one week., now if I can just keep this up. I'm thinking maybe exercising twice a day for 20 min. each, instead of once for 30 min., anything to keep my metabolism up.

Potato soup....I make it with skim milk and count it as core.

Lisa

How do I drink water? I just do it. I tell myself I have no choice! Fortunately, 4 of the 16.9 oz. bottles is a sufficient amount for me. Don't forget to use a straw and try to drink "good" water -- either bottled or filtered. The taste is so much better, and believe me it helps. I'm not a big fan of water in the winter, but I drink gallons of it in the summer because it gets so hot here.

Congrats on your loss!!

Vickie, no, I didn't think I was being scolded :). I was just musing out loud about how I'm thinking about the scale right now. I think I'm also trying to get to know my body, because it's not acting like it did when it was 20 anymore. (Big surprise, huh?)

Anyway, I didn't have much time to plan this morning and ended up having scrambled eggs and a baked potato for breafast, with ff bacon dressing. Kind of weird, but not strictly wicked.

I'll probably nip out to the grocery store and get something a bit more attractive for lunch. Chili is a possibility, although I'm a little tired of it. Dinner will most likely be a pork stirfry. I'll skip the rice, though, since I've had the potato.

Anybody have anything interesting to do with pumpkin? We have one left over from Halloween (!) that still seems fine, but I'm getting tired of looking at it, so it's going to be nuked soon.

hi cher....you will have to make vickie's famous crustless pumpkin pie......totally core......i think it is in the recipe, dessert forum. good for you for your weight loss.........whoohoo way to go

once you start drinking water, your body will automatically ask for more.......it is funny how that works. i drink my 2 coffee's in the morning, then after that and until i get home i have water, in a cup.......then once home, i have a glass while i am preparing supper, then 1 before my walk and after my walk automatically.....and i always have one beside me whether i am watching tv, painting or sewing. I average 10-12 10 ounce glasses a day. At work, we have one of those water dispensers, but at home, we have the best tasting, naturally flouride water in the world.........I truely miss it when we go to the city. Last night i had one of my 2 diet pops of the month........not a big pop drinker......

i walk an average of 30-45 minutes a day, and have added 15 minutes every other day on my elliptical machine........still have not looked at that w.w. dvd 30 minute work out yet......but i will, i promise!

Oh Woe Is Me....
 

Hey Lisa - CONGRATS ON THE ONE LB GONE FOREVER - keep up the good work. :cb: I commend you on the exercise - I have yet to repeat the one attempt I made earlier this week! :o

I try to keep a water bottle filled on my desk at all times - from the water cooler at work - have not tried a straw? wonder if it will make a difference?? :shrug:

Frannie - I am normally not a big chili eater - and don't even make it much at home - but since starting Core it seems like a good "food". I was just checking out the Stagg cans at the store and most are pretty high fat, except for the vegetarian one (like 0.8 grams of fat)...and all the ingredients looked core-friendly so I would certainly recommend this as an emergency pantry item for those times you don't feel like cooking and want something quick!

Now my sob story - for those of you who have been following you should know that dh and I are not happy campers and are having some issues. I am at the point where I feel we are "in crisis" and something needs to be done (e.g. shape up or ship out kind of thing). Recommended he go see his therapist which he did (to work on his own issues), but also felt we needed to work on the marriage and his treatment of my 2 kids (from a previous marriage and we have one together). If he was committed to stay in the marriage then some major work had to be done!

I have been trying to discuss this with him for a couple of days now - and today was opportune (was not feeling well this am due to headache and TOM so called in sick)....turns out yes he has been very unhappy - he realizes he has been bad to the kids, but the MAJOR REASON he has been so unhappy (are u ready for this!!) is BECAUSE OF MY WEIGHT! Yes indeedy the big fat reason is cuz I'm so fat!!! Yes there are other things that endear me to him, and of course we have borne a wonderful amazing child together (who we obviously don't want to traumatize) but his unhappiness which flows into other aspects of our lives (e.g. his nastiness to my kids) is cuz I'm fat and this affects his outlook, his demeanor and of course subsequent intimacy issues! :o Says the weight was always a "problem" for him even tho I weighed approx 160 when we married! (and yes I pointed out that 95% of people who lose weight tend to gain it back!)

So there is it ladies - and I'm glad I can come here to vent cuz I'm sure as **** not sharing this with too many others!! I told him that I found that to be very shallow of him, and almost guaranteed that the issues between him and my children would not change whether I weighed 140 or 200 lbs....but he does not agree! Of course I am very upset about this and can't stop crying but that won't help things! :( :( I almost want to lose this weight to show him how wrong he is.... :mad:

He has agreed to continue seeing his therapist to work on issues stemming from his childhood and I have the name of a therapist who not only does marital/couples counselling but specializes in stepfamily issues!!! Will call her to see if we can get an appt! And he says he wants to stay in the marriage but his main reason I think is cuz if he doesn't he believes he will be out on the street (as he is unemployed now)..of course this would never happen as he has many friends and family for support and no one would allow that to occur!

So there you have it!!!

Froufie

Mum, my 80 oz is just water. Sometimes I have decaf coffee in the morning (about 16 oz) and one decaf Pepsi at night (12 oz) or a hot decaf tea with skim and Splenda (10-12 oz). I just chug it down with my straw. I play games with myself. Like....ok you can't have lunch until you have consumed 32 oz of water. Or no dessert or snack if you haven't consumed 72 oz of water, etc. I couldn't drink half my body weight though.....I'd float away. That would be well over 125 ozs a day! Congratulations of your loss....you are OBVIOUSLY doing something right!

Cher, Frannie's right, you MUST try the crustless pumpkin pie. It's gotten me through Thanksgiving and Christmas. Let me know if you can't find the recipe. I also read about a good pumpkin custard. I'll see if I can find a link for you.

Hey Frannie, I watched the WW DVD while on the treadmill one day....Hubby thought that was a pretty funny picture and it looked pretty good. The Trainor had a nice voice and wasn't obnoxious. It might be too easy for you but it looked like it would be challenging for me. Had a "dancelike" quality to it. I may try it one of these days.

Froufie, I am so sorry. He does sound very shallow. I guess the best we can say for him is that he was honest. I'm glad you guys are going to counseling. None of us should really be giving you advice, but my goodness I would hope that my husband would love me no matter what. You should lose the weight for yourself, not for him. You should do it for positive reasons, your health and for how you feel about yourself. No one can lose weight out of fear. Doesn't he feel happy and recognize that you are doing something for yourself by being back at WW and on Core. Couldn't he have given you some time? Sheeeessssh! Maybe he's just using your weight as an excuse because he's afraid to talk about the real reason?

Try to hang in there.....don't let him sabotage the wonderful progress you've made.

Thanks Vickie - and you're right - I am planning to lose the weight for myself - especially to maintain my health as my genetic history is not that good and I could see myself going down that path if I did not do something about it!

My short term goal is to lose weight for July 8th (exactly six months from joining WW) as I will be flying to Florida to take party in my brother's surprise birthday party (bringing the whole family too!). I know there will be people there who have not seen me in several years and altho I know I won't have lost all the weight - at least I'll feel better about myself and look better too - was looking thru catalogues this afternoon at all the pretty spring/summer fashions and trying to decide what I would buy myself, in that much smaller size of course, to wear to the party!

So far no major binging or anything bad - I will stay focussed on my goals!

Frouf

Hey Mercee, good to hear from you. Sorry you missed your weigh in. I was wondering what was up. I wouldn't have gone out Saturday either! It was a nasty day here in Chicago. I'm sure this Saturday's weigh in will be great.

Cher, Here's a pumpkin pudding that sounds great to me. I haven't made it yet.

1-2-3 Pumpkin Pudding

1 can (15 oz) Libby pumpkin (not the pie mix)
2 boxes sugar-free, fat-free Jell-o instant vanilla pudding
3 cups skim milk
nutmeg, cinnamon, or pumpkin pie spice to taste.

Whip, mix, or user a blender to combine all ingredients. Either put entire batch in one bowl and chill or set up individual bowls and chill before serving.

Core (count 1 milk)

1/2 cup serving = 1 point on Flex Plan

Servings = approximately 8 to 10

Here's the Crustless Pumpkin Pie so you don't have to look for it.
Crustless Pumpkin Pie
15 oz pumpkin (just under 2 cups)
1 can evaporated skim milk (12 oz)
3 egg whites
1/4 tsp salt
1 tsp cinnamon
1/4 tsp cloves
1/4 tsp ginger
1/2 cup brown sugar{or Splenda}
Combine all ingredients & beat until smooth. Pour into a 9" sprayed pie pan. Bake at 400F for 15 minutes and then at 325F for 45 minutes or until a knife inserted in center comes out clean.
Serves 8
1 pt per serving

Good going, Froufie. At least YOU sound like your have your head on straight. You know that we'll all try to help you as much as we can. Just let us know what you need! Stay focused on the prize.

Frannie, what time is your cut off for drinking on your weigh in night? I was drinking my water all the way up until the time I leave to weigh in. I saw your post (it might have been on the menu thread) where you said you have a cut off. My weigh in is at 5:00 p.m. on Thursdays.

Damn it, Froufie, I have so much to say but don't want to step on any toes here, plus we already said I wouldn't give you advice! :lol:

But I'm going to say just this one thing. Why would he take it out on your kids? Is it THEIR fault that he's unhappy? Is it THEIR fault that you gained weight after you guys got married? And why would he transfer the blame for HIS problem to you?

And that's all I'm going to say.

Thanks for the pumpkin tips. My kids might even like those!

Froufy, I'm sorry you're getting so little support at home. I am fortunate that my dh has never said a negative thing to me about my appearance, even when we both knew it could use some improvement.

I don't know what your husband's employment history is, but I do know that when mine was out of work for a while, it really affected his temperment. Not in quite the same ways, but he is usually a very optimistic person, and became quite the opposite for a while. We weren't going to be out on the streets either, but I think it's hard for people (especially men, maybe) to be unemployed. It feels like a big rejection and failure in a part of your life where you are supposed to be reliable. And another thing I think that men more often do is to project their feelings of failure onto others. I don't want to be an amateur analyst. I just know that when my husband got hired for a job he likes, he mellowed quite a bit.

Thanks Vickie and Froufy!!!! I was pretty proud myself. So proud I went a little OP today........guess I better get back on if I want to keep seeing losses.

Froufy, sorry to hear about you and your DH, or is it just H now. Hopefully you guys will work things out; but I also have to agree that your weight is not the real issue. Maybe he'll find this out in therapy. What would Dr. Phil say?

Gotta run. Was on a field trip with my DS this afternoon, now have to take my DD to ballet and hiphop. Tomorrow night is jazz. Will check in later. Anyone want tot start an exercise thread??

Lisa

Originally Posted by mumto2:
Anyone want to start an exercise thread??
Lisa

:wave: Sure, I will!

Now ... let me see ... exercise, exercise. I know I've heard that word before. Oh wait, I'll get the dictionary.
E-x-e-r ... okay, here it is.


Um, no thanks. That sounds HARD!!! :lol:

Oh Frouf, I'm sorry! This stinks, it really does. I agree with the others - he's probably very upset and depressed, and is projecting it on you because it's easier than dealing with HIS problems.

Vickie, I made the pizza casserole a.k.a. glop tonight. It was fantastic! 2 out of my 3 children ate it without prompting (WOW!) and the third ate it with a little help. It was really yummy, and that recipe makes a TON. I'll have lunches for the next 2 weeks now. :) I put in the turkey sausage, green peppers, garlic, and sweet onion - mmm.

Angela

Wow, Froufie ... I'm so sorry your DH was so brutally insensitive. You are a much more forgiving soul than I am but I can appreciate that you want to make every effort to salvage your relationship with him for the sake of your child. I hope the sessions with the therapist will help. I know if I were in your shoes, I would be very much depressed. I'm sure some of your upset tummy troubles might be due to the anxiety and worries all this is causing you. I wish I could offer something profound but just know we're all thinking of you and hoping that things will work out whatever way is best for you and your kids.

Vickie and Frannie and all the rest of you who have Thursday WI's, I hope the scale will properly reflect all your hard work this week.

Welcome to the new folks from one who is pretty new herself!

Day 3 is down and while not perfect, I've been pleased with my overall eating choices. What's one of those sayings? I'm a work in progress! :)

Tomorrow is my birthday and I'm already planning to splurge on a piece of carrot cake ... my favorite sweet thing! Do you think I would be better to forego it? I like to think I can have the one piece without catapulting myself back into the junk food jungle but ... I know non-food rewards would be best but I REALLY want that piece of carrot cake! :)

Deborah

Oh Frouf ... don't be down on yourself. Please, pretty please??? I know that's so easy for me to say, sitting here hundreds (or thousands) of miles away from you. We are SO here for you, and will help you in any way possible. No matter what, you have friends here. Lots of people think that their online friends aren't real, but believe me they are! I'm on another board, and have met in person lots of the people. One girl and I even spent a very cool weekend at a beach in Florida! Others have been passing thru town and stopped so that we could have lunch. What I'm saying is that we are REAL people who genuinely like you, no matter what! We are all getting to know each other so well, and I feel such a connection with you all. Please lean on us, come here often, pour out your feelings ... we won't judge or criticize. I promise.

This is so hard for you, I know, but remember the prize, just as has already been said. You know you're doing it for yourself and nobody else, and keep your eye on how awesome the outcome will be! It's a journey but it's one that we can all make together.

:grouphug:

Deborah -- have that cake!! Carrots are vegetables, aren't they?? :lol:

No really, don't deprive yourself on a special day of something you love. That's what I really like about WW ... there are allowances made for those things. You have 35 WPAs that you can spend, and I doubt a piece of cake will use up many of them!

AWWW you guys are all so sweet and supportive - you're making me cry! :^: Of course you are REAL - everyone of you - and very special too. Thanks for caring! :grouphug: It really feels good to be able to come here and "vent" about what's going on. :blah:

and Deborah - of course you must have some birthday cake :yes: (maybe a piece for me too? ha ha ha). Carrot cake sounds great - is it homemade? And don't forget to make an extra-special wish when you blow out your candles!!!! :hb:

Frouf

Deborah, if you want it you should have it. Be forewarned though that once you get sugar in you, you'll have to detox again. If it's a big deal for you, you should eat it. I've forgone things I really wanted to eat and then later gave up my whole diet because I was feeling sorry for myself. Eat it, count the points, drink some extra water, exercise and HAVE A FABULOUS BIRTHDAY! BTW, carrot cake is my favorite too. I have a kick butt from scratch recipe for it that even has scratch cream cheese frosting. My family and friends BEG me to make it. Girlfriends....I did not get 150 pounds overweight on BAD food! LOL!

Frouf, we are here. You probably are a little depressed. Who wouldn't be. Try not to give up your healthy eating. Whether he stays or goes a healthier, slimmer you is still the best thing for you and your kids.

Angela, I'm SO glad you liked the glop! It really made me happy to eat it. Great comfort food. It's pretty cool when the kids will eat it without twisting their arms! Would you make it again?