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Originally Posted by ledom
It has been indicated to me that starting a Body for Life/Eating for Life thread anywhere on 3 Fat Chicks would be splintering off from the LWL thread and breaking down the cohesivenss of LWL. Is this the general consensus? Other diet groups (WW and South Beach Diet come to mind) have threads w/out taking away from LWL. LWL has been a great place for me for a long time, I know there will always be something for me to learn here. On the other hand, I don't always feel comfortable posting here and therefore post other places as well. I would very much like to see a place where people wanting information or wanting to make comments about BFL or EFL could do so without being limited to LWL and could in fact enjoy a thread devoted to that diet specifically. I don't think people that enjoy posting here are going to stop and I don't think people hearing about BFL for the first time someplace else would not eventually make there way over here for valuable information. Obviously it isn't going to happen on this page, but is it so horrible to have that as an option, say under General Diet Plans? At the risk of being cut off again I would like to know if I am alone on this and should drop it as an idea that everyone thinks is bad or if my feeling on this has some validity.
Question: Why would you feel that LWL is "limiting"?
As you know, this forum originally started as a Body for Life forum. Many of us here started out on our bodybuilding journey through BFL, and some of us, I'm sure, are still doing the program. Many of us have gone on to other programs or have always 'done our own thing' i.e. splits and nutrition. What about the people who are not doing, or have never done, any 'formal' plan - where do THEY go? We all learn so much from what everyone is doing - and there is SO much overlap between all the plans - it comes down to what Meg calls the 'holy trinity' of cardio, weights, and clean nutrition.
I lurk at other forums and I have seen what happens when there is splintering of a group into different plans - it becomes very combative, defensive and argumentative, where everyone thinks that the particular plan THEY are following is THE RIGHT ONE. Kind of like politics or religion in a way. (That's why this forum does not endorse any one plan or program.
I was just going through some of the VERY old posts here in LWL. The weekly thread used to be titled "BFL" then "BFL/BB" then just to Bodybuilding (for one week), then to our current Ladies who Lift.
A year ago I wrote this post:
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This is *NOT* strictly a Body for Life board - this board started as a small BFL thread a couple years ago, but if you read the posts you'll find that the VAST majority of us here are doing other plans, centered on weight training - which is why I asked Suzanne to change the name of the forum, and ultimately to move it out of Diet Plans and next to the Exercise forum, which is really where it belongs IMO.
In fact, many of the 'regulars' (and I'm including the many new folks that have signed on recently - hi y'all ) have been following the bodybuilding lifestyle for quite some time now and (myself included) LOVE this way of life and enjoy finding new challenges for themselves rather than getting to a 'goal weight'.
I maintain that BFL is a wonderful way to get started in weight training but there are many other plans out there that incorporate the same principles of weight training, cardio (or not!), and balanced eating of healthy clean foods as a permanent lifestyle change - whatever 'clicks' with an individual is ultimately what works for them.
Just wanted to put in my two cents here...and not make this an ongoing debate about who is right or wrong. Again, we all need to make our own choices...
And as I stated to you earlier today via PM:
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I feel (and so do the other moderators I've discussed this with) that if we begin to splinter off the support group by WOE, then we will lose the cohesiveness of the group as a whole, which has made LWL so supportive for so long. As I stated, we're all traveling the same path with clean nutrition, strength training, and cardio as the nucleus.
Ledom, if you want to start a thread at General Diet Plans about BFL, of course you're free to do so (I never said anything about forums outside LWL), but here at LWL the policy is not to endorse any one plan over the other...we're all in this
together, supporting and helping each other. We are all on the same path using the same tools, albeit with different tweaks.
And incidentally, the original Body for Life basic startup info (written originally by our own Susanje) is
STILL available in the Basic Bodybuilding Info sticky here in this forum...
There's my two cents on that topic...