What a great thread! It's an issue so many of us struggle with.
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Originally Posted by saef
Yes, my self-regulating mechanism doesn't work right. It's not exactly broken, but it's on a time delay. I don't realize that I'm full or overly full until some time after the mounds of food have been tamped down into my stomach.
My struggle is this: Why is the feeling of being full so physically pleasurable? To the point where it's almost sexual? (Maybe we shouldn't go there on a public forum ...) That's a big component of it. To be full, replete, a little sleepy. Maybe because I connect it with a feast, that is, a family gathering with a lot of food on the table? So it's finally about connecting & love? And I'm sort of chasing after that memory when I stuff myself? A perpetual after-Thanksgiving-dinner haze of good cheer & warmth? I don't know. But I know it's one of my problems. And so, like others here, I have to use outward measurements of the normal quantity of food to ingest, because I can't rely on my messed-up inward regulatory system to do it for me.
Also thank goodness for my having read about volumetrics, and educating myself about what food can be piled on the plate, and what can't. Green beans, yeah. Broccoli, sure. Clear broth soup, bring it on. But not trail mix, which is dangerous for me in large quantities. (Not even Trader Joe's, as opposed to the kind with M&Ms & such in it.)
Saef, I love reading your posts because you're so articulate. You raise a great question about the reason fullness is so pleasurable----and only to some, not to others. My husband doesn't like feeling full. Often, he will leave the table, saying, "I could eat that [what is left on his plate] but I would be too full."
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Originally Posted by Belease
I saw an interesting programme with this in it - they had a bunch of little kids and gave them lunch. Then they asked them how full they were, and most of them pointed to the diagram of the person whose stomach was full of food. Then, they started the kids off drawing and gave them a plate of party food. It was really interesting to see that some of the kids just left the food, because they didn't want it because they were full. Some had one or two pieces. Some just sat there mindlessly cramming piece after piece into their mouths until they had eaten the whole plate-full. I can categorically state that I would have been the kid with nothing left on my plate at the end. There's just something about my brain that doesn't seem to feel there's any connection between having already had food, and eating more. At times I honestly used to make myself feel ill from eating too much. But since I started controlling my calories, I've not felt that in a long time, and I really really like it!
This is interesting because it supports my belief that the main difference between those of us who struggle with our weight and those who naturally maintain a healthy weight is not so much metabolism as it is our brains. I want food more than my naturally thin husband. My hunger and fullness signals are not as keen as his.
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Originally Posted by Shmead
Then, one day, I realized that they are lying. At least a lot of them are. "I'm full" is a polite social lie for "I can't eat that" because many, many thin people consciously regulate their intake, which is why they are thin. They could eat, and enjoy, the cupcake, but they had a big lunch so they don't think they should.
This sounds so dumb when I type it out, but it was just a social signal I missed. I thought everyone was wired profoundly differently than I, but I am now coming to suspect that in many cases it is not that simple.
I do think that there’s some truth to this, too. I think many people control their weight but don't announce that that's what they're doing. However, in some cases, they really don’t want it (my husband is like this).