Many of us use the Omron scale which measures fat/muscle, etc. at home. I'm following the IP protocol, but have been using alternatives all along, and my losses have been in line with that 3+ pounds a week that IP used to advertise. There is no IP clinic where I live, and besides, I could not afford to use the IP products, so this forum has taught me so much about this diet (and Dr. Tran's site too).

This diet has changed my life too. I love it!

Yes Men do lose more than women. If you take your average over the course of the weight loss program it averages between 3-7 pounds a week. Some weeks you will lose 2 some weeks you might lose 4. That is why they average it out.

That's what I thought too. There are lots of people on this forum who are 100% OP and have never had losses at 3-7 pounds a week.

I don't see that many people are losing like that. We, longtime folks, are averaging are losses, but those 4 pound losses are thought to be whooshes a lot of times, and not a normal event.

Look at WUV. She's been 100% and her losses haven't been 3-7 pounds a week. She's a hero to so many of us here.

MY coach and paperwork from him said 2-5 for women; 3-7 for men.

Sorry but what I think you are missing here is that people aren't complaining about the diet just that they get upset when a coach berates them for using an alternative (which may meet every guideline as an IP product) instead of one from IP. People still like the protocol or diet but maybe can't afford the IP prices or want something a little different.

As far as the losses, I'm a male (last I checked anyway) and I've been 100% OP (with ONLY IP products), and my coach is complaining because I'm not losing enough. She hasn't accused me of cheating (yet) but the looks she gives me certainly says she's thinking it. Everyone is different and are going to lose at different rates. I'm happy with what's going on but can certainly understand people who want to mix things up a bit.

AMEN! LOL

And we are on the IP forums because we follow the IP plan. Even if we don't use the food, we love the support and to not be told to go away and do something else if we can't afford IP.

They are in ti for the profit...its as damn business. My coach dropped me because I was buying my IP products online (mainly because she NEVER had the products I wanted to buy). Her loss, now she can't show my before and after pictures to bolster her business...AND she lost my husband's business also. He just started Alternatives and is down 9 lbs in the first 5 days already.

I was 100% OP all the time and still only averaging 2 lbs a week.

I am in Auburn but I used to Coach at Bothell Chiropractic and Wellness with Dr Dusty. I know you have been in contact with her. She has the most amazing office. You will not believe it when you see it! She has her own gym now for IP dieters. She has done a great job there!

Agree.

In my experience, most people with a weight problem significant enough to bring them to this plan have been berated and accused and suspected and blamed for their weight issues over and over again. They have been made to feel inferior and to feel ashamed and to feel set apart for too long. IP coaches (as well as mere commentators on forums) would do well to remember that. People need support, understanding, and encouragement. Most of that can be accomplished in the way to speak to people, regardless of corporate policy. I will no longer hand over money to anyone who makes me feel bad about myself . . . whether I am buying enough of their products or not.