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Old 03-03-2008, 06:28 AM   #16  
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The cheese was on my subway sandwich. I got the numbers from the restaurant. So, it's not really technically 2 slices of american cheese...it's more like two small triangles of cheese like stuff. haha or something like that.

I did find some weightwatchers cheese slices though at the grocery store. one slice has 45 cals, so if you halfed the slice into two triangles...it'd be about the same as at subway---size wise and cal wise.
They aren't using Weight Watchers cheese at Subway.

One slice of cheese at their thickness is about 100 cals. So each half is probably about 50 cals.

That's at least how i count at Subway.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:08 AM   #17  
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They aren't using Weight Watchers cheese at Subway.

One slice of cheese at their thickness is about 100 cals. So each half is probably about 50 cals.

That's at least how i count at Subway.
I agree that they're not using WW cheese, but according to their website, the amount of American cheese on a 6" sub (2 triangles) is 40 calories. Most of the other cheeses are 50 calories (provolose, Swiss, etc.). I'd love to know what kind of cheese they use...
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:28 AM   #18  
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Their cheese slices are much smaller than what you would buy in the store. Subway has calorie information on their website-so be sure to use it.

As far as not making it to 1200 calories, my biggest concern is the fast rate of your weight loss over the past few weeks, and the fact that you are still a good deal from your goal weight.

If you hit a plateau 20 or 30 pounds from now, and are already eating around 1200 a day and sometimes not even that-you don't have anywhere to play when things get tougher. Basically, you are too low, too soon.

I would recommend adding a small snack that is dense, such as a handful of almonds at some point during the day.
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:34 PM   #19  
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aphil,
That's a good idea...I've never really been one for nuts...but I suppose I could learn to love them.

The amount of calories I'm aiming for (1200-1400) is what my doctors set me up as. I know quite a lot of the weight I have lost is water weight. I've also been building muscle so my weight loss has really slowed down--now i'm at about 2-3lbs a week instead of the 6-9 I was losing. I also know I have a lot more to lose...I have plenty of room to increase my exercise...and although I'd love for it to come off faster... I know I have plenty of time.

As a side note... I also drink a LOT of water. I carry my nalgeine bottle with me EVERYWHERE...and prob drink 3-4 bottles full a day. My dad swears by this. He lost over 80lbs pretty fast just by drinking a lot of water.

3beans---I'll definitely let you all know what the nutritionist has to say! I see her tomorrow afternoon!!! :-D (I hope its a nice one. This will be my first time with them...the other one I usually see only deals with the wellness program at the gym @ Mayo. I haven't seen a dietitian since I was a kid...and that was a TRAUMATIC experience!!! I wasn't even all that fat of a kid.... but she was so rude and even made my mom cry at the appointment. I was probably 8 years old. I've got to say I'm nervous...)
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:03 PM   #20  
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I find that when I exercise I don't eat as much... which seems kind of counter-productive to me! It seems like you'd want to eat more on an exercise day, and eat less on a "lazy day"...
So like-- my highest "lazy day" was about 1850 cals, but my lowest "exercise day" --I only ate 1020 cals.
You may be having the same ~uncravings~ that I get when I am active!

And UBER congrats on getting so much bang for your buck on your calorie intake! It sounds like your diet is really balanced (and you can tell by your energy level whether or not it is!)-- Good luck!

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Old 03-04-2008, 10:23 AM   #21  
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I'm not a nutritionist or anything like that, but I don't think that eating under 1200 calories/day with your workout habits is healthy. It may even stall your weight loss. I'd highly recommend sticking with the guidelines set forth by your doctor. If you're having trouble reaching ther 1200-1400 calorie range, try adding in some special treats...maybe a tablespoon of butter or some whole milk or even some full fat cheese.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:45 PM   #22  
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Why is it so important to hit 1200 calories? I have heard of your body going into starvation mode, but why does it matter so much?
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:00 PM   #23  
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LadyFace ... I believe ... that a few days under 1200 won't make much difference. However, that's not much food and you might be missing some nutrients. It's hard to get all the micro & macronutrients you need in a very restrictive diet.
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:13 PM   #24  
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Susan said it very well. If you eat less than 1200 a day, it is extremely hard to get in all of the protein, fat, fiber, calcium, vitamins, etc. that you need each day. In essence, someone who eats less than 1200 calories a day on a regular basis, is missing nutrients.

It isn't always just about losing weight/being skinny...it should be about being healthy as well.
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So today I saw my nutritionist...I handed over my last week's food logs---including a day that was about 800 calories, and 3 days that was about 1000. I told him about my problem...and how I'm having trouble hitting that 1200 mark, but that I'm not hungry. I was so scared going to see him though...because of my bad experience before.

He looked through all my logs and actually said that he thought everything looked pretty good...that I was getting in enough carbs and vitamins. The only thing he was a little concerned about was my calcium (I'm allergic to milk...I "cheat" with yogurt and cheese once in awhile because I love it so much...but then I get hives. ...so he was worried about that intake---and It's not as easy as just taking a supplement, because I also have a history of genetic kidney stones...supplements increase the risk), he was also a little concerned about protein. He told me that I'm getting an average of about 60grams of protein a day. This needs to be up around 80 grams. He told me to use salmon in the can because it has the bones in it...full of calcium---and takes care of the protein deal too. I also picked up some soynuts, almonds, and sunflower seeds.

It was SUCH a relief to hear from someone that it's ok to feel full...and not quite get to that calorie goal. He also told me to look at weekly averages. My weekly average for the past week was about 1100...close to what I wanted. He said that if I had any problems with weightloss stalling that we can take another look at everything. He said drinking water was crucial...as is eating some protein and carbs after I work out.

AND to make it even better... I hit my 30 lbs mark!!!!! I weighed in tonight at about 5:30pm with my trainer. I'm excited about this. Like, really excited. If I can do this in 2 months...I don't see any reason why I can't keep losing at a rate of 1 to 2 lbs a week. I'd be happy with that. I know my 4 lbs weeks (like this week) are probably going to start becoming fewer and fewer... But, I'll take them!!!
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You are doing great!!! I'm so glad to hear it!

As a fellow kidney stone sufferer, however, I want to tell you that my doctor said calcium supplements play no role in kidney stones. It is OK to take calcium supplements, according to him (he is a urologist). The problem most kidney stone formers have is that they don't drink enough water. So, I just HAVE to drink 8-10 glasses a day. If I don't, then I get a rather serious reminder....

Good luck! I'm glad you got such good feedback on your plan!

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I don't think the importance is getting the exact number of calories, but more importanly keeping your metabolism going throughout the day. The time span in between your lunch and dinner is long enough to stall your metabolism and undo all the good you are trying to do with your calorie counting. Your day would have been more successful, if one or both of the after dinner snacks had been eaten during that huge 7 hour span. I also have a hectic day, but after gaining 30 lbs all while consuming hardly anything, I had to change the way I ate not just what I ate.
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My initial thought is that you have only been at this two months. Over the long run this will change.
I would like to second this. I know people who, when they got started on a diet, their initial excitement and motivation somehow made them "less hungry." My dad is a perfect example of this. When he was dieting, he would eat a small salad for dinner and be stuffed (or claim to be stuffed) after just the salad.

Fast forward to today--he's back to his "normal" eating habits (which unfortunately means he gained all the weight back).

If you truly are not hungry at present, know that your hunger will return someday. So you'd better have a plan for when it does!

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OH i'm ready. I leave plenty of room in my "menu" that if I really want something, I'll eat it---watch the portion, and make sure I'm accountable for it. Today, for example. ...at the Pharmacy someone brought in girl scout cookies... all kinds, on this big giant tray...I LOVE girl scout cookies. I didn't order any this year...even though I was super tempted. Today, with the cookies staring me right in my face...I had one, ate it slowly...wrote it down. and the craving went away. I was able to stop at one!!! That really was a big deal to me, because seriously I could eat a whole box! I also passed up homemade bread...with homemade grape jelly today. ...so I can definitely say I've made some changes in my lifestyle.

Only time will tell though...


Thank you everyone for all your support, it's really great :-D
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Congrats on maintaining the self control over the GS cookies!

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