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Old 03-05-2003, 10:26 AM   #1  
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Question Has anyone ever tried using a Carb Blocker?

Since I am fully planning on eating Carbs while on Vacation the second half of this month... I was wondering if I should invest in a Carb Blocker.

Has anyone ever used one of these? My main concern is side effects. I don't want to feel terrible from eating carbs, but I also don't want to spend my vacation in the bathroom because I am taking a carb blocker.

Any advice would be great!
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Old 03-05-2003, 09:25 PM   #2  
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What is a carb blocker?
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Old 03-05-2003, 11:20 PM   #3  
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I dont know Gina, but Id stay away from it. Especially if you havent tried it before your trip.
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Old 03-06-2003, 03:09 AM   #4  
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I've never heard of a carb blocker. I tried a fat blocker for a few weeks but it was horrid. I don't recommend it.
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:03 AM   #5  
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Gina, I would recommend that you do your carbs in moderation and not use a carb blocker. The last thing you want to do is to try something new just before a vacation. And remember how carbs make us feel, you may not want to overdo if you want lots of energy to do all that vacation stuff.

Best of luck, let us know what you decide.
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Old 03-06-2003, 09:52 AM   #6  
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I know... I'm just grasping at straws. I really have reservations about how much carbs I will eat and when while on vacation, but I'm going to Belgium! The chocolate capital of the world! Plus my favorite chocolate shop in the world is in Holland. I know I won't be able to get away without eating carbs. I am just looking for ways to have them not make me feel all bloated and foggy.

I did order the carb-blocker and will try it before I go to see if any weird side effects happen.

Linda, what was horrible about the Fat Blocker? Icky digestive side effects? That is what I am worried about. I did a lot of research before I decided to buy this particular product, but of cource I can't find any instances of anyone saying anything bad about it... It can't be that great!

I will report back, but from what you are all saying, I think I will be using it only in very small amounts.
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Hi Gina, I also don't know anything about a carb-blocker but I am curious sometimes about these things... personally I wouldn't take it; is it possible for you to try it BEFORE you leave?

So, I live in Holland... where is your favourite choclate shop then...? (so I can stay away from it of course!)
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Rockette! So nice to meet you! I love to meet new people from The Netherlands! I will be spending 4 nights in Den Haag with a friend! March 26th - March 30 with a night over in Brugge on the 28th. We will be staying at the American Hotel on Leidesplein from the 20th to the 25th.

So, the chocolate shop??? Puccini in Amsterdam! OMG! The best I have ever had. There are two of them. One on Staalstraat 17 right before the Waterlooplein, and one on Single 184 by the statue of Mutalati (sp?) on the torensluis bridge. Let me know if you have ever had it, and if not, you MUST try it!

So where is all the good shopping and chocolate in Den Haag? All my DH and his friend know about it beer!
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Gina - I've been to that chocolate shop! You are SO right! Luckily I'm too lazy to schlep out to Amsterdam when the feeling for chocolate overcomes me (don't hate me, but until last month I didn't really have chocolate "issues").

I have lived in Den Haag for 3 years and I have no idea where to get "good chocolate" there. I do know that Cafe Dudok has the best cakes and muffins, but that might be something that you are trying to avoid...

Like your DH and friend, I know a lot more about BEER than chocolate! (another one of our carb-friends...)

Shopping... well, you've got the main shopping in the centre but I wouldn't call Den Haag a shoppers' dream. I prefer Rotterdam for that!

Getting terribly off topic now... so if you want more info (and want to tell me specifically what you may want to shop for or your other interests), feel free to PM me
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I'm so green with envy. I can't even get my tulips to bloom and Gina get to go to Holland. *sigh*
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Dyan, it is so beautiful there! The first thing DH and I do is go to the Flower Market and get a big bunch of Tulips and an inexpensive vase to put them in. You would not believe the great prices on fresh flowers! You can get like 30 tulips for about $10 - $15! I will take photos and try to post trip pix when I get back.

DH and I planted crocuses in our front lawn this fall and it is so covered with snow that we don't think we will ever see them! It is snowing again today! My Best Friend Judy will get to see them when she comes to feed the cats!
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actually, bittersweet chocolate isn't very high in carbs... honest!!!!!
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I checked out buyer beware and found this response from Suzanne 3FC to the same question:


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No, it doesn't work. Someone else had questioned this at an earlier date, and I found the following information from a physician:

quote:

This is complete nonsense. If you managed to completely block all
digestion of starch you ate, the bacteria in your intestine would get the sugars and you'd blow up like a balloon from gas, and then have diarrhea. Exactly like having lactose intolerance, and for the same reason. In fact, the well-known gas from beans is also a result of incompletely digested sugars in beans. Stuff that isn't digested higher up, will always get digested by bacteria further down, and with disasterous results. There is actually a prescription starch digestion blocker on the market for diabetics (called "Precose" or acarbose), but its effect is only to slow digestion of starch down, not stop it. Nearly the same calories are absorbed, and even here, the major side effects are (you guessed it) gas and diarrhea.

Several studies of the actually effect of weight-loss "starch
blockers" are in the literature. In one famous one, the entire gut was washed out with a "colonoscopy prep solution" several hours after a test meal, or a test meal with starch blocker. This was done for a number of subjects. The caloric content of both kinds of washout mixtures was measured (yeah, gross work, but it's science). The result? No difference.* These things are scams. They don't even block starch digestion as well as Precose, and Precose is no good for weight loss.

Steve Harris, M.D.

*Citations of Basic Science

Bo-Linn GW, et al: Starch-blockers-- their effects on calorie
absorption from a high-starch meal. N Engl J Med 307:1413, 1982.

Garrow JS, et al: Starch blockers are ineffective in man. Lancet
1:60, 1983.

Carlson GL, et al: A bean alpha-amylase inhibitor formulation (is
ineffective in man). Science 219:393, 1983.


Commentary:

Starch blockers-- still no calorie free lunch. N Engl J Med
307:1444, 1982



MrsJim had also responded to a similar post with this great reply:

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Starch blockers have been around for awhile now.

Save your money - they're worthless.

Check out this article from Quackwatch:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quacker...s/blockers.html

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Be Wary of "Calorie-Blockers"

Many people wish that a pill or potion could counteract the effect of eating more than one needs to maintain weight. Many thieves cater to this wish by selling "miracle" products claimed to block the absorption of food components.

In the early 1980s, "starch blockers" were claimed to contain an enzyme extracted from beans that could block the digestion of significant amounts of starch. The enzyme works in the test tube, but the human body produces more starch-digesting enzymes than these products could possibly block. In addition, undigested carbohydrates that reach the large intestine can ferment and cause trouble. In 1982, the FDA received more than 100 reports of abdominal pain, diarrhea, vomiting and other adverse reactions among users of "starch-blockers." As the reports poured in, the agency took regulatory action and drove most of these products from the marketplace.

During the early 1990s, Cal-Ban 3000 was said to cause "automatic" weight loss by decreasing appetite and blocking the absorption of fat. Its ingredient was guar gum, a soluble fiber used in small amounts as a thickener in sauces, desserts, syrups, and various other foods. Guar gum has some medically recognized value as a bulk laxative, a cholesterol-lowering agent, and an adjunct to controlling blood sugar levels in certain diabetics. But it has not been proven effective for weight control.

When taken by mouth, guar gum forms a gel within the stomach that may contribute to a feeling of fullness and block absorption of a few nutrients. However, neither of these characteristics is enough to produce weight loss. Many overweight people keep eating even when their stomach signals that it is full. Moreover, if food absorption is decreased, the individual may eat more to compensate.

But Cal-Ban tablets were not merely ineffective. When placed in water, they would swell to 4 or 5 times their original size and assume the consistency of putty. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration collected reports of at least 17 cases of esophageal obstruction among Cal-Ban users. Hospital stays were required by ten of these people, one of whom died. Other reports of harm involved stomach obstruction, upper and lower intestinal obstruction, nausea, and vomiting.

Extracts of Gymnema sylvestre, a plant grown in India, are alleged to cause weight loss by preventing sugar from being absorbed into the body. Chewing the plant's leaves can prevent the taste sensation of sweetness. But there is no reliable evidence that the chemicals they contain can block sugar absorption or produce weight loss.

In recent years, chitosan capsules have been claimed to cause weight loss and lower blood cholesterol by binding fats in the stomach and preventing them from being digested and absorbed. Some sellers refer to chitosan as a "fat magnet." It has even been marketed as a weight-control product for dogs. Chitosan is derived from chitin, a polysaccharide found in the outer skeleton of shellfish such as shrimp, lobster, and or crabs. Although chitosan may decrease fat absorption, the amount contained in the capsules is too small to have much of an effect. Scientific studies have found no significant differences in weight or serum cholesterol levels between subjects who took chitosan and those who received a placebo.
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Um... Wow!

Thanks for the information!
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