Thread Tools
Old 02-10-2003, 03:57 PM   #1  
Lovin' Life
Thread Starter
 
RobinW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WNY
Posts: 4,456

S/C/G: 300/too much/155

Question Water softening

I think I have discovered after all this time, why my skin is so itchy all the time. Its the water!!!! (its a long story to explain) lol

Anyway, Im wondering if any of you ladies out there know how to get the "water softener" water effect in my bath water? From what Ive read in some of the research Ive done, it looks like I may be able to get away with adding salt. But what kind, and how much?

Does anyone have any info on this?

Thanks
Robin
RobinW is offline  
Old 02-10-2003, 04:32 PM   #2  
Senior Member
 
dyan_q's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: FL
Posts: 507

Default

Woohoo! Finally something to do!

Here's the answer: No, and here's why:

How does a water softener work?

We call water "hard" if it contains a lot of calcium or magnesium dissolved in it. Hard water causes two problems:

It can cause "scale" to form on the inside of pipes, water heaters, tea kettles and so on. The calcium and magnesium precipitate out of the water and stick to things. The scale doesn't conduct heat well and it also reduces the flow through pipes. Eventually, pipes can become completely clogged.
It reacts with soap to form a sticky scum, and also reduces the soap's ability to lather. Since most of us like to wash with soap, hard water makes a bath or shower less productive.
The solution to hard water is either to filter the water by distillation or reverse osmosis to remove the calcium and magnesium, or to use a water softener. Filtration would be extremely expensive to use for all the water in a house, so a water softener is usually a less costly solution.
The idea behind a water softener is simple. The calcium and magnesium ions in the water are replaced with sodium ions. Since sodium does not precipitate out in pipes or react badly with soap, both of the problems of hard water are eliminated. To do the ion replacement, the water in the house runs through a bed of small plastic beads or through a chemical matrix called zeolite. The beads or zeolite are covered with sodium ions. As the water flows past the sodium ions, they swap places with the calcium and magnesium ions. Eventually, the beads or zeolite contain nothing but calcium and magnesium and no sodium, and at this point they stop softening the water. It is then time to regenerate the beads or zeolite.

Regeneration involves soaking the beads or zeolite in a stream of sodium ions. Salt is sodium chloride, so the water softener mixes up a very strong brine solution and flushes it through the zeolite or beads (this is why you load up a water softener with salt). The strong brine displaces all of the calcium and magnesium that has built up in the zeolite or beads and replaces it again with sodium. The remaining brine plus all of the calcium and magnesium is flushed out through a drain pipe. Regeneration can create a lot of salty water, by the way -- something like 25 gallons (95 liters).
dyan_q is offline  
Old 02-10-2003, 04:37 PM   #3  
Senior Member
 
dyan_q's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: FL
Posts: 507

Post Even more info...(long article)

Don't Let Hard Water Drain Your Wallet
Diamond Crystal offers soft water tips that can save you hard cash
(ARA) - Ever wonder why dishes come out of the dishwasher with a filmy residue or why soap doesn't lather in the shower? It may be because your home has hard water.

Hard water, which is a build-up of natural minerals such as magnesium and calcium, is the culprit for many inconveniences including stained porcelain, frizzy hair and dry, itchy skin. But it's more than inconvenient: it's also costly. Hard water can cause water heaters to run up to 60 percent less efficiently than with softened water, and it can reduce the life span of other appliances.

It is estimated that more than 80 percent of homes across the country are affected by hard water. What is more staggering however, is that many homeowners do not know if they have hard water or how to detect it. Do you?

The amount of hardness varies in each water supply. However, the Salt Institute estimates that the equivalent of nearly 90 pounds of solid rock is brought into the average home by hard water each year. For an average family of four, that's the equivalent of a one-pound rock about every four days.

Hard water can have a serious impact on your pocketbook. It can shorten the life span of your appliances by as much as 30 percent, which can lead to costly repairs or replacement. That means a washing machine that should last 13 years may last only nine years because of hard water damage; a dishwasher that should last 10 years may last only seven, and a hot water heater that should last 11 to 13 years may last only eight or nine.

Another factor to consider is the high cost associated with repairing major appliances. How much would you be willing to pay to repair a 5-year-old washing machine? Replacement is often the best option once hard water has wreaked havoc on an appliance. By installing a water softener, you can add more than three years to the life of most of your appliances -- and save yourself the expense of replacing them sooner than expected.

According to Cargill Salt, maker of Diamond Crystal water softening products, whether you're washing dishes, clothes, or taking a shower, installing a water softener can make your life easier by eliminating potential hard water problems at their source.

How hard water affects you

* Hard on clothes -- Clothes washed in hard water tend to wear out 15 percent faster than those washed in soft water.

* Hard on washers -- The American Water Works Association has found that washing machines that use hard water can wear out up to 30 percent faster than those that use soft water.

* Hard on dishes -- Hard water can leave an unsightly film build-up on glasses and dishes.

* Hard on you -- When you bathe in hard water, deposits are left behind which may leave your hair looking dull and your skin dry. Shaving is also more difficult in hard water. And hard water leaves a filmy soap ring around bathroom fixtures, making bathroom and kitchen clean up more difficult.

* Hard on budgets -- Hard water requires much more soap, shampoo, or detergent than soft water, so your soap products don't stretch nearly as far.

Solve the problem

The first step in solving hard water problems is determining the hardness of your water. Consumers can call (800) 428-4244 for a free kit from Diamond Crystal water softening products, which includes an easy-to-use test strip, a coupon for a free bag of water softening salt and other helpful information. You also can speak with a representative who can answer general water softening questions and help you select softening salt that is right for your water type and softener.

Once you know your water's hardness, it may be time to install a water softener. Water softeners cost from $300 to $1,200 and can be installed by homeowners or by a professional. Once the unit is installed, it must be properly set to match household water usage. Some units can be set to regenerate only on demand, while others follow a regular cycle.

Make sure your water softener is always full of the proper salt. Without salt, a water softener is useless. Salt is necessary to regenerate the water softener's resin beads, which take the hardness out of your water.

Choosing the proper softening salt is important to get the best results from your water-softening unit. Various water-softening salts are produced for different types of water softeners and water quality problems.

For example, cabinet softeners can be more difficult to clean, so a higher purity salt, such as Diamond Crystal Pellets with Softener Care, should be used. Higher purity salt results in less build-up and less frequent cleaning. The water in some homes may also have high levels of iron, affecting the taste and causing discoloration. Many water-softening salts, such as Diamond Crystal Red Out Pellets with Iron Fighter, are produced with special additives to combat iron problems.

Also, don't forget to re-test your home's water supply at least once a year to ensure it is healthy. A hard water test strip is the quickest and easiest way to test your water.

Cargill Salt offers a full line of Diamond Crystal water softening products, including Pellets with Softener Care, Solar Salt Extra Coarse and Red Out Pellets with Iron Fighter. Cargill Salt also offers a variety of Diamond Crystal food salts and deicing products. For more information on Diamond Crystal products, visit the Cargill Web site at www.cargillsalt.com.
dyan_q is offline  
Old 02-10-2003, 05:19 PM   #4  
Old Cackler
 
jiffypop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: northern New Jersey
Posts: 7,525

Default

wow!!! it's amazing what we learn around here!!!!
jiffypop is offline  
Old 02-10-2003, 05:19 PM   #5  
Lovin' Life
Thread Starter
 
RobinW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WNY
Posts: 4,456

S/C/G: 300/too much/155

Default

Hmmm, so from what Ive read before, and here, there isnt a way to get around a water softener?

Is there a way to soften my water without a water softener?

lol, thankyou Dyan so much. I was thinking of you this afternoon, and thought you would be the one to answer lol. Hope you had a good day

Robin
RobinW is offline  
Old 02-10-2003, 05:20 PM   #6  
Come on Spring!
 
Ruthxxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Delta, Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 26,840

S/C/G: 232/170/150

Height: 5'0" on a tall day

Default

It's the Discovery Channel!
Ruthxxx is offline  
 

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Friends around the World #13 - New Broome sweeps clean. Shad Support Groups 402 10-08-2006 04:29 PM
Starvation Mode alberta Living Maintenance 38 02-20-2006 08:44 AM
New Year-New Me! MsRD Chicks up for a Challenge 189 02-01-2006 08:56 AM
Teachers struggling to lose weight #5 Summerlover Support Groups 184 06-20-2004 09:12 PM



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:29 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.