[Hockeychic]

What is the differece between Atkins and Carbo Addicts?

[Ruthxxx]

This is a topic we should have in Frequently ASked Questions - the section just after this one. If you look in that section Questions Section there is a dissertation about this near the end.

Basically Atkins severely limits carbs during induction and adds them back very slowly. Most people go into ketosis during the two week period and sometimes have headaches. The CAD and CALP programs limit carbs for two meals but allows them for the third meal. Since you still do have carbs, you do not go into ketosis and headaches are infrequent. Both plans stress drinking 8 or more glasses of water per day.

The best suggestion for a complete understanding is to borrow the books and read them several times. I'd be willing to send you my CALP, if you like. Just PM me and I'll pop it into Canada Post!

I'm sure the rest of the Chicks will add their two cents to this thread.

[nasus40]

Ruth said it in a nut shell.

CAD?CALP goes all day with only 3 meals. no carbs for the first 2 then a reward meal for the last one. it is allowed carbs but you must eat equal portions of meat vegies and then carbs, if you want more carbs you need to eat again equal portions. the meal is to be limited to 1 hour NO LONGER!!! and should be the same time every day. the rationalization behind this is that the body releases the insulin in waves the first with in a few minutes when you start to eat. and if you continue to place food in the stomach again within the 60 min mark. so essentially the effect is similar to the Atkins and PP WOE. it is programed to limit the amount of carbs you take in and limit the amount of insulin that is released into the blood stream. But doing it in this way it is to allow many the feeling that theya re nto depriving them selves of things theylove like bread and pasta potatoes. thas WOE can be done also using low fat and even incorperate the low glycemic index foods as well. inherent problems is what i have found was that I over did the carbs and then it exteneded to over 1 hour then to 2 meals a day then well i managed to stuff anything I couls into my mouth. so you do need to establish some control when you do this woe. and set limits on your self. many feel that they are not deprivig them selves as the allow themselves the bread and pasta and do very well with this diet.

Atkins and PP are them selves very similar. both started out being very strict during the induction/ intervention phase. limiting the carbs to almost nothing. Atkins to less than 20 and PP to less than 30. both are a bit more flexable now and have higher tolerances to the carb limits but they both are still very restictive. Atkins still has the 20 carb induction and then increases the carbs by 5 for a week then again 5 till you stop loosing weight then you drop till you restart to lose weight. Pp is about 40 - 50 a day thought intervention and then when you get closer to goal you increase by 5 a day/week till you start to stop loosing weight. BUT they both recommend to eat health carbs vegies and fruit. you actually can have much frit and tons of vegies. on both diets. that is where many people feel that these are wrong diets as they think you are not eating a balanced diet and actually if you are doing it right you are!!! You will hear that the body needs carbs to live. well that is not true what did the eskamos have to eatt for carbs??(before modern days) nothing and they all lived!! LOL the body does need glucose to live for fundtion but the body has a wonderful process called gluconeogenisis which the body can produce glucose from the breakdown of protein. which is part of the reason that you need to take in enough protein to make this diet work.

The key of both these diets are the reduction of insulin. The wonderful part of both diets are the reduction of craving and the wonderful feeling of feeling ful with a regular meal. the wonderful feeling of added energy, feeling fantastic and getting healthier. The bonus is that the fat comes off.