Yes I have over eaten grapes or watermelon, but I could not ever eat enough grapes or watermelon to gain 190 pounds. First by the 2nd day I would be sitting on the toilet for hours and secondly there are not enough hours in a day to eat enough good foods to gain that much weight....but it only takes me 30 minutes to down 3000 calories worth of cookies and cream icecream containing massive amounts of chemicals and additives.
I too have overdone it on grapes, cherries, butternut squash, etc. And I too believe had I strictly kept it to overdoing it on these type foods, that yes, I'd be overweight, but not 165 lbs overweight. Not even close. There's only *so much* of the healthy stuff one can overdo.
And I also believe, firmly, that had I never had any of those "other" foods, I most likely would have not overeaten the "good" foods to the extent that I have on occasion.
LoriBell, I have heard similar stories to that of your sons.
Toxic foods? You bet I'm a believer. A strong believer.
H8cake, this may sound cocky, over confident or what have you, but I was CERTAIN I would get back on track (though 2 1/2 days is not all that back on track ). CERTAIN of it. For me to not to is not an option for me. If I should have another episode like I'm just getting over, I will get back on track yet again and yet again if need be. Not that I'm giving myself permission to stray, but if, if, if...
Though I am being realistic and KNOW that I will veer again, I will do my best to not veer QUITE as far EVER again.
h8cake, I think you are in the same line of thinking as me - for you to veer off track for very long is not option anymore.
Doesn't the rise in obesity also correlate with a number of other factors?? Greater use of automobiles and other motion saving devices for example? People used to wash clothes using their own energy, and now we have machines do the work for us. Ditto with dishwashers, snowblowers, etc. Oh, and TVs...
Those could also be contributing to obesity.
I'm not saying that the rise of HFCS is not be a contributing factor, but I think we need to be careful identifying causal factors when all we have is correlational evidence. Just because one event follows another doesn't mean that one caused the other...
Pat, so you can relate to the two weddings thing! Not too many people can. Though I do know of one other person that's experienced it. I think we could/should do a reality show - "Battling Brides". Oy. The sisters (especially the older one and the first to be engaged/married is not liking sister number 2 "stealing her spotlight".
My sister and I were married exactly, to the day, 3 months apart. April 21 and July 21, 2007. Luckily, no one worried about anyone's spotlight (in fact, I threw my sister a bridal shower 5 days before my wedding because otherwise we were on opposite sides of the country...and we shared a lot of our vendors, and even used that to negotiate discounts!), but my poor parents...
I do think it's the parents who suffer in the two close together weddings. My sister and were originally scheduled to get married - me first - in Feb and April, which while close is more than the 6 weeks it ended up. Seems my BIL lost his apt, or job, or something and decided they should get married in Dec instead of April. My sister and I were fine with it all, had a great time at both of our weddings and the ones of our 2 friends married in the same time frame.
Now I'm an adult I don't know why my folks didn't kill us....
And I also believe, firmly, that had I never had any of those "other" foods, I most likely would have not overeaten the "good" foods to the extent that I have on occasion.
Do you mean that the tendency to overeat now on "good" foods is leftover learned overeating behaviors learned on the "bad" food? LOL, I probably wasn't clear, but I wasn't sure I was taking your statement as intended.
I think it's a very interesting idea. Certainly makes sense to me.
Do you mean that the tendency to overeat now on "good" foods is leftover learned overeating behaviors learned on the "bad" food? LOL, I probably wasn't clear, but I wasn't sure I was taking your statement as intended.
I think it's a very interesting idea. Certainly makes sense to me.
Yes, Julie. That's precisely what I meant.
Mandalinn, Pat, we're still in the early stages here. Our weddings aren't till the spring and summer. The spotlight stealing only really came out during wedding gown shopping - so far. My mistake. I should have seen that one coming. I am confident that they will both happily participate in each others prior festivities and during. But I do think there will be some touchy moments. These two sisters have always had a slight competitive thing going on. Should be interesting!! I do think it's most burdensome for DH (the main bread winner) and myself - the main planner and bringing up the rear in the bread winning department. This is a huge financial burden to us. I'm also thinking as we get closer and closer the stress is going to rise. G-d help us. At least it's all for good things! I am aware of that and keeping things in perspective. I do intend to use the two weddings as a bargaining chip - florist, photographer, band... We are doing it in two different halls though, two different caterers.
Very interesting thread and lots of important input.
My name for this type of situation is "Post Tramatic Eating" after a stressful event I need to be very careful because it is a vunerable time for me.
I do fine during the stress even if off plan eating is involved. But a few days later I am on the prowl and almost impossible to satisfy my "hunger".
I've come to realize it, and sometime I overcome, but sometimes I don't.
Just realizing one of my weak spots helps me. After the candy bar, I usually realize okay, MIL was visiting last week and now you are dealing with the after effects.
I have always thought I am one sleeve of Thin Mints away from being the old me, all my habits and healthy eating are just a shell over the me who really hasn't changed at all.
Oh thank doG I'm not the only one...sometimes I think I'm just one 3-piece, dark, mild with fries from Popeyes or one king-sized reese's cups from being the old me. I'm not, but sometimes I get scared.
Hello maintainers! I thought I'd drop in a bit since all these nice people I know IRL keep yelling at me and telling me to quit losing weight. I'm not listening of course, but it's surreal but lovely that they think I've made it to goal. And of course the one friend tonight who says, so, you're what now, size 8? LMAO yeah right!!!!!
I bought "The End of Overeating" (David A. Kessler - author) and was starting to read it last weekend.
He talks about food additives and the "overeating trilogy" - fat, sugar, and salt. I didn't get far into the book but I did do an experiment with our snacks.
DH and I are both totally triggered to snack and binge eat when watching TV in the evening. We can't totally block out the TV (it's one of the few things we do together in winter) but I thought I'd change our snacks after reading part of the book. We generally snack on chips, rice cakes, etc. and we used to eat ice cream and cookies. Lots of sugar, fat, and salt!
I bought pretzels which contain three ingredients - whole wheat flour, salt, and yeast, and cauliflower (which we roasted with cooking spray and spices), and baby carrots.
I served these with low fat plain yogurt for dipping (which DH really likes).
We sat down to watch for an hour. I didn't tell DH I was doing an experiment, just that I wanted to "try something new". We snacked and watched. At the end of the hour there were lots of healthy snacks left!
I felt satisfied after a couple of handfuls of pretzels and some carrots. DH munched his way through most of the veggies and dip and hardly touched the pretzels. I have also taken a pre-counted amount of these pretzels to movies and have felt totally satisfied after eating them and drinking water, instead of having the popcorn and diet pop which always make me hungrier and wanting more, more, more.
I generally have to back up my reading and thinking with practical experimentation. Once I experience something physically I tend to repeat that behaviour if I get a reward from it.
This was in no way scientific but it did show me in a concrete way that I'm really more satisfied by healthier, nutritionally denser foods with less additives.
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Dagmar, interesting experiment! Thanks for sharing the results. I read the book too and totally believe his conclusions. Just thinking about what I learned in it can keep me away from that evil trilogy of fat, salt, and sugar (layered and loaded!) -- sometimes! What he's really right about is that once you start down the road of a learned behavior, it's almost impossible to stop. So the key is avoiding the first step.
). CERTAIN of it. For me to not to is not an option for me. If I should have another episode like I'm just getting over, I will get back on track yet again and yet again if need be. Not that I'm giving myself permission to stray, but if, if, if... 
