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Old 11-03-2006, 06:12 PM   #16  
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This forum ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I owe my success so far to it
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The bars are a big treat for me. When girls at work are eating chocolate cake or brownies, I bring out my cholcolate bar and it is very satisfying. I especially like when I take on out at 10 am and they are eating carrot sticks and I am still staying on my diet !!As far as being "stuck", thats when I especially watch the calories I eat, like more fish that beef, more skinny bread rather that 1/2 english muffin, etc.
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Old 11-04-2006, 03:55 PM   #18  
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Hi Lila,

I too struggled with the bars in the beginning and still do sometimes. Like Cassie, I decided that I am going to be 100% on board the LAWL program so I stocked up on bars. Another option is the LAWL shake. They have less sugar than the bars and can be made with frozen fruit or ice. I make the chocolate shake with ice and then put it in the freezer until it is slushy. Tastes like a frosty!! I also use the vanilla shake and mix with yogurt and fruit for a smoothie.

Good luck and congrats on your WL...You are losing and that's what matters!

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Old 11-05-2006, 07:26 PM   #19  
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I am not a nutritionist--but....I feel like the sugar in fruit (being natural) has to be better than processed sugar.

Anyone know more?? I am curious. APHIL--we need you!!!
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There are many kinds of sugar....sucrose, lactose, fructose, and maltose. Sucrose is table sugar, lactose is the sugar found in milk, fructose is sugar from fruit, and maltose is super d duper sweet sugar. These are the ones I remember.
As the information got out before I could repond, there ARE a lot of different types of sugar, and they are digested differently in the body-so yes, from the standpoint of myself, a gestational diabetic-they DO indeed digest differently in the body. If I eat an apple I feel just fine...if I have a Slim Fast, or a couple donuts or something really sweet and full of simple sugars-I literally can get nauseated from the sugar.

As far as the original thread start-I want to address that there isn't anything wrong at all with being stuck at a certain weight for a week...or even two weeks, or three weeks. It happens, especially after a good amount of weight loss. You have lost about 15 pounds in a month and a half give or take-so it is about time for you to have a couple weeks without a weight change. Weight loss is not like clockwork-this is completely normal.
LAWL aims to have you lose 2 pounds a week on average-but it is completely normal NOT to. You might lose more like 3-4 pounds the first week on the plan, and then have periods where you go a week or two without a loss at all. When you get closer to goal-you might only lose 2 pounds a MONTH. Weight loss slows as you get smaller, and your body uses less calories per day-this is a normal process.
The only thing you can really do to help it along is to BURN more calories through exercise to make up the difference.
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Aphil--I am reading the new book by Dr. Oz (along with MANY here!) and I have a question:

When reading labels is just "fructose" the same as "high fructose corn syrup"? And what's your view on "palm kernel oil"--he says it's bad and the Luna site (of course) says it's not a "bad" oil. Just curious on your thoughts.
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:49 AM   #21  
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Fructose is not the same as high fructose corn syrup. Fructose is the sugars naturally found in fruits. A lot of health food snacks like organic cookies and cereals, etc. will sweeten their foods with fructose instead of sugar or high fructose corn syrup.
high fructose corn syrup is basically, in a nutshell, sugar made from corn rather than from sugar cane-like table sugar is. It is highly processed. Corn is a sweet vegetable, so it contains fructose-but in HFCS it is not in its natural state-it is chemically altered.
It is basically the same thing with fats-fat is okay and good to have in your diet-but it is the chemically altered fats, like trans fats-that are the most harmful. Before all of the chemical processing most saturated (bad) fats were easy to spot-they were solid at room temperature-like grease from meats. Trans fats are basically once good fats-and turned into bad fats by the processing.
It is pretty much the same thing with HFCS. The more processed something is, the WORSE it is. Trust nature...not scientists who alter things to give the food "longer shelf life".
It sort of reminds me of the movie Christmas Vacation film, where Chevy Chase works for a food additive company-and his boss asked him to give him a summary on the "non nutritative cereal varnish" made to keep cereal from getting soggy.
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Thanks a bunch! Good to know. It's a real bummer to go through the pantry and realize how much in there you shouldn't have!
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Lea Ann - Before I joined LAWL I read "The Fat Fallacy" and it talked about eating real food without chemicals. It was at that time that I made the switch to natural cheese, organic yogurt for DS (If you read what's in the "kids yogurt", you will realize they are eating pure crap), switched to organic crackers and cookies due to the hydrogenated oils, etc. It's actually not that much more expensive, and I just feel like my kid will grow up healther eating real things and (like Aphil said) "trusting nature". It's really only in the last 50 years that all this fake stuff got to be so widespread. But I was amazed at all the innocent looking snacks in the pantry that had so many chemicals. Who would have thought that Wheat Thins were made with hydrogenated oils?
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If you think about it.......if you eat things that grow.......you are ok. Vegetables (whole, fresh), fruits (whole, fresh), whole grains, fresh meats and fish........then you avoid all of these bad foods. And, what is funny to me, is I asked at my COD if I could/should, eat the 100% whole wheat bread that I have as my starch, and she told me NO!!! She said it has too many calories. It does have more calories than lite bread, but is also has 3 g of dietary fiber, 5 g of protein, and several other vitamins and minerals. And, because it is whole wheat, my body is not turning this into sugar immediately. So, how can it be so bad? Well, even thought I know it is good for me, I am nervous to add a whole slice. I only eat a half a slice, and then it is comparable in calories to LAWL recommendations. And, don't get me wrong, I am not bashing this plan, I just think that it is ok to make HEALTHY substitutions if you do your homework and are not manipulating the program to continue bad habits
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Ohhhhhhh, and I almost forgot....if you add seeds and nuts.....then you've really got it made. That is one thing Dr. Atkins was pretty smart about. He always highly recommended nuts, seed, and berries, because they power pack nutrients in small servings.
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Nicole - Health Valley makes a bread called Double Fiber Whole Wheat that is 40 cals/slice. It doesn't say "Light", so if a co-worker hadn't told me about it, I never would have looked for it.

And I know the COD can be kinda clueless sometimes because a lot of them are just following directions and don't think about the logic. (See my rant in "Thoughts on the Program" thread) That's why you can ask them to e-mail the dietician. The plan isn't perfect, but it's working so I'm going with it. I can add the other more logical parts during maintenance.
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Thank you Cassi, for the bread tip, and I SOOOOOOO agree. I honestly have not been able to lose weight for quite a few years without harming my body in some way, so I feel like I will forever be in debt to LAWL, and I don't regret one penny I paid them.
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Nicole-you are completely correct about the bread. Your COD is trained in "calories" on the program, basically. On LAWL you are allowed a lot of things that are not the healthiest options out there-but they are OP because they are low calorie.

Whole wheat, or whole grain bread is much healthier than a serving of lite bread that is NOT whole grain. (Like Wonder Lite White, for instance.) The lite is lower calorie, but the whole grain is healthier. My opinion? If you are allowed the lite bread for 40 calories, and the healthier whole grain bread is 80-100 calories a slice-then have the whole grain, but count it as 2 starches instead of one. If you have to, to pacify the counselors-list it in your journal as 2 slices of lite bread.
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Aphil - The funny thing about the "lite bread" on the plan is that we can have a 4" pita (70 cals) or a 2oz bagel (110 cals), but only one slice of 40 cal. bread.
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Makes no snese at all...have the whole wheat bread anyways, and count it as a bagel.
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