[Blondi13]

Originally Posted by Blondi13

Hi wylothar, have you tried the fat fast on your attached link? I just did it for 2.5 days and actually got into ketosis for the first time so I could actually see it on a ketostrips. Today is says trace so I am a bit freak out now. I lost a few pounds which was good but now hope to keep moving in the right downward direction as well.

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[wylothar]

Originally Posted by Blondi13

Hi wylothar, have you tried the fat fast on your attached link? I just did it for 2.5 days and actually got into ketosis for the first time so I could actually see it on a ketostrips. Today is says trace so I am a bit freak out now. I lost a few pounds which was good but now hope to keep moving in the right downward direction as well.

I used to đo a fat fast all the time. I also used intermittent fasting daily. They all worked well when I was good compliant paleo. I really believe in dietary flexibility to keep from getting adaptation. All before the wheels feel off.
only 4% +/- of fatty acid fuel utilization comes from ketones. trace may be great it personalized. I get urine ketone easy but others don't at all. Lyle Mcdonald has tons of good information bodyrecomposition.com
look at blood ketone measuring if your really concerned.
depending on what is going on you may need to watch your protein % and up fats slightly.

[Blondi13]

Originally Posted by wylothar

I used to đo a fat fast all the time. I also used intermittent fasting daily. They all worked well when I was good compliant paleo. I really believe in dietary flexibility to keep from getting adaptation. All before the wheels feel off.
only 4% +/- of fatty acid fuel utilization comes from ketones. trace may be great it personalized. I get urine ketone easy but others don't at all. Lyle Mcdonald has tons of good information bodyrecomposition.com
look at blood ketone measuring if your really concerned.
depending on what is going on you may need to watch your protein % and up fats slightly.

I do find that I eat lots of protein and possibly too much. My carbs I are always less than 30 g a day so apparently should be in ketosis but who knows. I was looking at the intermittent fasting as well and may try that as well. I over indulged at Xmas and gained 10 pounds. So hard to lose, so easy to gain. Want to drop down again and go a bit lower this time knowing that I do go up as soon as I reintroduce more carbs. Trying to wrap my head around so much fat following a Keto diet is hard to do since I have always done low fat type diets but who knows? A little over 10 pounds to go and won't be giving up any time soon. I will also check out that link. Thanks.

[wylothar]

Too much protein will trigger gluconeogenisis. You bodywill make glucose from the protein. It what happened to me on Atkins.

[Blondi13]

Originally Posted by wylothar

Too much protein will trigger gluconeogenisis. You bodywill make glucose from the protein. It what happened to me on Atkins.

Thanks for the link to Body Recomposition. Lots of really great canticles. Making protein adjustments to see what happens.

[knm]

Hi Blondie!
I've been in your boat before. I started around 142 and managed to get to 128 in six weeks. I know everyone says as long as you follow the protocol you'll lose weight, but I believe once you get closer to goal (depending how low your goal is vs what your body thinks it should weigh) it's a lot more difficult. I weighed all my veggies and made sure I stuck to around 35 net carbs a day. Some veggies are unlimited but I still tracked them, and I tracked all the packages I had because as we all know, some are more than others - not all unrestricted packages are made even.

Eventually I managed to get under 128 by going on P3 for two weeks, working out everyday - minimum 30 mins cardio and 20 mins weight - more if I had the time. I didn't lose weight while on P3 but went back on P1 after those two weeks of P3 and in less than two weeks I was down 5 lbs (for me to lose an avg 2.5 lbs per week in those two weeks was huge since my weight loss had significantly slowed prior to me switching to P3.)

I should also mention, while on P1 I was doing pilates 5-6 times a week. It was enough to get me toned but not too much that I ever got dizzy.

The idea of switching to P3 was scary for me, but was totally worth it! Also felt like it gave me a bit of a break to get mentally reset and back on board with P1.

[Blondi13]

Originally Posted by knm

Hi Blondie!
I've been in your boat before. I started around 142 and managed to get to 128 in six weeks. I know everyone says as long as you follow the protocol you'll lose weight, but I believe once you get closer to goal (depending how low your goal is vs what your body thinks it should weigh) it's a lot more difficult. I weighed all my veggies and made sure I stuck to around 35 net carbs a day. Some veggies are unlimited but I still tracked them, and I tracked all the packages I had because as we all know, some are more than others - not all unrestricted packages are made even.

Eventually I managed to get under 128 by going on P3 for two weeks, working out everyday - minimum 30 mins cardio and 20 mins weight - more if I had the time. I didn't lose weight while on P3 but went back on P1 after those two weeks of P3 and in less than two weeks I was down 5 lbs (for me to lose an avg 2.5 lbs per week in those two weeks was huge since my weight loss had significantly slowed prior to me switching to P3.)

I should also mention, while on P1 I was doing pilates 5-6 times a week. It was enough to get me toned but not too much that I ever got dizzy.

The idea of switching to P3 was scary for me, but was totally worth it! Also felt like it gave me a bit of a break to get mentally reset and back on board with P1.

Hi Knm,
Yes it is a battle when you are close to your goal weight. I got down to 120 the first time around and gained 5 pounds back as soon as I reintroduced carbs. That was upsetting so I went back and did P1 again to try to go 5 pounds over but gave up And tried to stick around 120-125. I did well for a while but as soon as you lose control of what you are eating, it is easy to regain. I am an ex runner, triathlete and took a time off from exercising to get my weight in check based in IP and it did work regardless of exercise. Now I am getting back into exercise and trying to shed those last few pounds again and try to keep it off this time. I have learned quite a bit about myself and how I react to food. I started IP the first time on my birthday a little over a week from now but hoped to be there again on my birthday but it doesn't look like it will happen. Oh well. Just gotta stick to it though. Thanks for the feedback.

[CloverDog]

I can sooooooooo relate to this thread. I am on week 20 and have lost 71lbs.
I was a girl who averaged 4lb losses weekly. The last month I have seen lots of 2lb losses. I thought it was just me getting closer to goal (I still have a ways to go though) and of course, I am spoilt with my 4lb losses and used to 'losing like a dude'.
My coach advised me that my carb count was too high. I was sticking exactly to the diet but I was averaging over 40 net carbs per day. My restricted alone was 14 net carbs on its own. Then I was having higher carb non restricteds on top of that and of course, then veggies add more carbs. My coach said I should be having between 25 and 35 net carbs per day to stay in ketosis and burning optimal body fat.
So I was bummed last Friday at weigh in when my coach said to limit my restricteds (otherwise known as the one thing I look forward to every day) to 3 times a week and to restrict my restricted veggies to no more than 2 cups per week.
It made me grummmmmmmmmmmmmpyyyyyyyy!! But I did it anyway. I halved my restricted veggies and decided to get rid of my restricted IP meals altogether. I noticed I was starting to get hungry and crave more food the last three weeks, which also was not a good sign and contributed to my decision to just get rid of them.
Lo and behold.......... I am down 4lbs since FRIDAY. FOUR POUNDS. This obviously was an issue for me.
Has anyone been in the same boat? If so, what foods did you turn to? I am feeling that puddings, soups and drinks will be my best bets from now on and to cut out all restricteds, pancakes, oatmeal and any other 'carby' foods. Thoughts please?

[wylothar]

I stumbled across this bit of knowledge a while back and it seems to correlate to a consistent theme with individuals on IP.

stalls in weight loss might be because of insulin sensitivity.
Ouch, how can that be possible right? Apperantly going very low carb – to around or below 10% of calories, or full-blown ketogenic – can induce “physiological” insulin resistance. Physiological insulin resistance is an adaptation, a normal biological reaction to a lack of dietary glucose.

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