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  • Quote: kdrama I started the 12th, stats are 190/164/150 so we are leading parallel lives. I just started using some alternatives but also am still seeing a coach and buying 2 boxes/wk from IP.

    Just tried the Quest double chocolate chunk today, yum. Gotta have my restricted!
    Diet buddies!!
  • Woo Hoo!! 1.8lbs down-and an INCH off my waist- I'm psyched! Thank goodness!! Going out to lunch-(my first time eating out anywhere since I started the program) I plan to have a green salad-lettuce and cukes with some oil and vinegar and I'll bring a drink packet to add to my water. I really want to have 2 cups of turnip fries with my supper tonight, so I'm going to forego my lunch veggie. That will be my very first "self adjusted choice" in 8 weeks-Again, thank you all for your support and suggestion!
  • Quote: Woo Hoo!! 1.8lbs down-and an INCH off my waist- I'm psyched! Thank goodness!! Going out to lunch-(my first time eating out anywhere since I started the program) I plan to have a green salad-lettuce and cukes with some oil and vinegar and I'll bring a drink packet to add to my water. I really want to have 2 cups of turnip fries with my supper tonight, so I'm going to forego my lunch veggie. That will be my very first "self adjusted choice" in 8 weeks-Again, thank you all for your support and suggestion!
    Please excuse me if I'm misreading but why would you forego lunch veggies to have 2 cups of turnips with dinner? The protocol calls for 2 cups of veggies with lunch and 2 cups with dinner.
  • Quote: Woo Hoo!! 1.8lbs down-and an INCH off my waist- I'm psyched! Thank goodness!! Going out to lunch-(my first time eating out anywhere since I started the program) I plan to have a green salad-lettuce and cukes with some oil and vinegar and I'll bring a drink packet to add to my water. I really want to have 2 cups of turnip fries with my supper tonight, so I'm going to forego my lunch veggie. That will be my very first "self adjusted choice" in 8 weeks-Again, thank you all for your support and suggestion!

    Good job!! Awesome!!
  • Quote: Please excuse me if I'm misreading but why would you forego lunch veggies to have 2 cups of turnips with dinner? The protocol calls for 2 cups of veggies with lunch and 2 cups with dinner.
    My coach feels that Turnip should be on the restricted veggie list- you know- the ones no more than 4 C per week and 1 C per day? I never eat any of them, but now take her advice and consider turnip as one. So, since I have had two of them on the counter for a bit- it's time to get rid of them- I love the turnip fries and haven't eaten them in weeks- probably my own over-thinking on the subject.

    and thank you kdramalover!!
  • Quote: Woo Hoo!! 1.8lbs down-and an INCH off my waist- I'm psyched! Thank goodness!! Going out to lunch-(my first time eating out anywhere since I started the program) I plan to have a green salad-lettuce and cukes with some oil and vinegar and I'll bring a drink packet to add to my water. I really want to have 2 cups of turnip fries with my supper tonight, so I'm going to forego my lunch veggie. That will be my very first "self adjusted choice" in 8 weeks-Again, thank you all for your support and suggestion!
    That is awesome Destony!

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    I had a revelation last night. I am a food addict. Like other who have other addiction I'm going to have to refrain from triggers. I've been a slave to my weight and yo-yo diets most of my adult life. I have an extremely addictive personality.

    This diet has taught me portion control. The difference of hunger verses boredom. How to make healthy choices. True appreciation for vegetables and flavor of foods. I don't know, but something has just finally clicked in my head. I am completely in control of my food not the other way around. Even last week, I was thinking about what foods I was going to eat when I reached my goal. I was constantly thinking about food but it's gone. I can't explain it. I'm embarrassed to admit this but yes, I was looking at pictures of food and yearning for them on google image not to long ago. Some online shop but I was drooling over what foods I was going to eat. I hope this feeling lasts. I hope I'm able to continue feeling like this.
    KDL - What a great feeling! I wish I was there, but I know I am not. If anything, I feel like once I reach goal, there is going to be even more emphasis on what I am eating and doing. I could be wrong, but for me, I think maintenance is going to require constant vigilance and being cognizant that I am not falling back into old habits.

    So I had a great weigh in this morning - tomorrow, if it is the same / lower it's official

    Weather in NoVa is incredible - I love this time of year, although I was glad to be in my neck of the woods and not downtown today. Definitely taking a walk with the dog tomorrow and enjoying the neighborhood cherry blossom display.

    Took DD10 and her cousin to see "Home" today - started a little slow, but turned out to be a really cute/good movie.

    Also, tried the strawberry Proti-Thin pudding/shake tonight HORRIBLE aftertaste! I am placing an order for the caramel-cafe - Truthfully I feel a little lazy but I am giving in for a bit so I have an easy snack in the evenings!
  • hysteria- Congrats on the awesome weigh in!! You're doing it!! I agree about stress during maintenance. I feel motivated with all the wonderful support of 3F. It's nice to have other taking the same journey and being able to share our experiences.

    My DS is 9 so we have kids about the same age. Another thing in common!!

    Tonight my husband saw my giant pile of romaine with 2T of WF dressing and make the yuck face. When I told him that I had plenty of dressing he told me that my taste buds were broken!!
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    Muscle mass has gone down for past 2 weeks. Any suggestions? My coach told me to switch up what I'm doing so we are doing no restricted this week.
    Quote: Britt. Mine went down last two weeks too. My coach said my body is just adjusting.
    Quote: Just something to look at re: muscle mass.
    The gadgets that the clinics use to measure body fat % etc. measure lean mass which includes everything that is not fat, NOT JUST muscle mass, but bone, nerves, organs, contents of your colon, etc. Do not let a coach freak you out about this. It is only a temporary blip on your journey.

    BTW, you will lose pounds or ounces of muscle as you lose weight anyhow, because your body doesn't need as much to carry you around. It is the percentage of body mass as muscle compared to percentage of fat that counts. As the body fat percentage drops, your lean body percentage will rise even though it may be a smaller amount of pounds than when you started.

    Keep on carrying on! You can do this!
    Liana
    Just as weight loss isn't linear, neither is body composition. There are too many factors to look at individual readings of body fat % versus lean. Muscle and fat weigh the same lb for lb but muscle takes up less room in the body. However, muscle also needs more water to function than fat so you may have slightly variable readings based on whether you have been using your muscles versus a more sedentary lifestyle. The Tanita scales are a guideline only. The gold standard for body composition analysis is a hydro tank and good luck getting anyone to spring for that. Even the Bod Pod (traditionally regarded as the non-scientific research standard) has variance rates.

    Provided you are eating at least half of your body weight in grams of protein (more when you are physically active, but don't go crazy with it) and including all the required foods and supplements PLUS any optional "freebie" salad items you're allowed you WILL lose fat while sparing most of the lean tissue.

    Every diet, no matter how scientific or balanced, will see you lose muscle as well as fat. It is unavoidable. Any coach who tells you otherwise has not read the guidance notes. This is because as you use muscles the fibers are constantly being degraded and rebuilt with your dietary intake. Protein is the building block for muscle, therefore if you are physically active (demanding job, like to walk, take the stairs or just very mobile doing housework, laundry etc) you will need to increase your protein to account for it. Especially if your muscles ache.

    If you think about what's happening inside your body during a ketogenic diet like IP you begin to understand why you can eat the same food every day week after week and not see identical loss patterns. The body isn't a machine that you can plug a formula into and get the same result. It's going through a lot of physiological changes - running on both dietary intake AND burning your fat alongside it (I call it a dual fuel system). As your fat cells relinquish their cargo your body is constantly making small adjustments - where does it take the fat from next? Does it need to retain more water for cellular breakdown? If you look at your body closely as you lose you may see that you have an imbalance in shape, too, where your body loses from one side faster than the other. This is all normal, and will even out as you keep losing.

    In the first 3 months of IP it's easy to start micro analysing what's happening on the scale and forget that your body is working hard for you. If you trust the plan and are faithful to it, you WILL lose the weight.

    Quote: My coach feels that Turnip should be on the restricted veggie list- you know- the ones no more than 4 C per week and 1 C per day? I never eat any of them, but now take her advice and consider turnip as one. So, since I have had two of them on the counter for a bit- it's time to get rid of them- I love the turnip fries and haven't eaten them in weeks- probably my own over-thinking on the subject.

    Sounds like your coach is trying to maximise your loss by reducing high GI veggies that break down into simple sugars. While this is theoretically correct and simple sugars are more readily utilised by the body as glycogen (and thus raise the blood sugar) this conversion is slowed when paired with a protein. This is why you should never eat the restricted veggies without a protein element to the meal.

    Here is the article that explains it. I also looked up carrots (which are forbidden) and they are actually LOWER on the glycemic index than turnips. The difference is that turnips have more fiber. Fiber slows the rate at which food is absorbed by the lining of the intestines and can be utilised as fuel, so you don't necessarily GET all the nutritional values that the food is listed at.

    Personally, I use turnips in the slow cooker with beef. Cooked in broth you wouldn't know they weren't potato, they are that good.
  • Briael Thank you for the explaination. That's interesing. I'm glad that I had a beautiful tenderloin steak with the turnips. That was her thought process regarding them. Even though I say it over and over, I love the wealth of information you all possess regarding this journey. I love love love the support, and also seeing everyone's successes and encouragement. It's the first thing I check in the morning when I get up. Thank you all for being here!!!!
  • Briael, great explanation! I have a moderate science background and healthcare training and am sort of disappointed in the answers I get from my coach about aspects of the diet. She's wonderfully supportive and optimistic but I often leave the office feeling as though I got the "training manual" answer, instead of the evidence based answer. There is so much evidence that points to the success and health benefits ketogenic diets that I'll keep going!
  • Amanda - I always enjoy understanding more of the science behind this woe - and it coincides with LC too

    Hope everyone got through the Monday's

    Had a great NSV victory - I officially have a pair of work pants I can't wear anymore. Another gorgeous day in the DMV and went for a walk - I had to roll my waist band to keep them on my hips! I was a little embarrassed, mostly elated and had that silly "Pants on the Ground" song running through my head
  • HysteriaCongratulations!!! That's wonderful!!!
  • This was one of my silly .8lb weight loss weeks. But lost 1/4" off my bust, waist and thigh each. Could have been because I had a gut bomb lunch of IP chicken a la king with 2C steamed cauli about 1.5 hours before my WI!! I am starting to be able to feel my rib bones under my booblets before the fluffy guts start. Things are moving south.
  • Quote: This was one of my silly .8lb weight loss weeks. But lost 1/4" off my bust, waist and thigh each. Could have been because I had a gut bomb lunch of IP chicken a la king with 2C steamed cauli about 1.5 hours before my WI!! I am starting to be able to feel my rib bones under my booblets before the fluffy guts start. Things are moving south.
    I think that's pretty great!! I go to Wi on a empty stomach. I don't even drink water.
  • Quote: This was one of my silly .8lb weight loss weeks. But lost 1/4" off my bust, waist and thigh each. Could have been because I had a gut bomb lunch of IP chicken a la king with 2C steamed cauli about 1.5 hours before my WI!! I am starting to be able to feel my rib bones under my booblets before the fluffy guts start. Things are moving south.
    awesome GD!!!!!! & lol on eating before your WI

    Hear ya on the ribs - my mom was always complimenting me on my waist - something that at my heaviest disappears - but is now redefined and I have a ribcage again!

    UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just needed to get that out! Grateful to be employed, and beyond grateful I am paid fairly well for what I do....but oh gosh, days like today, I DISLIKE my job : devil:

    A person down already...system issues over the weekend prevented me from getting things done that I desperately NEEDED 2 extra days to do...working until midnight last night...took almost 2 hours in traffic to get here...and then during the BUSIEST time of the month, I am getting asked by upper management for analyses. I am already cranky from lack of sleep and stressed by everything I have to get done in the next 16 days.

    Lol - I gripe, but am on here venting when I should be working...I needed a mental break before I just took my laptop and drove home...

    Back to the grind...